How Good Songs Make Horror Films More Gooder

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Welcome back to Nightmare Logic, where music

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soothes our savage souls. We’re your hosts, Christopher

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Smith and Peter Sawyer. And today, today we are

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going to sing the praises of our favorite horror

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songs and soundtracks. Peter, it’s good to see

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you. You too, man. And happy Father’s Day. Thank

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you. Thank you. Uh, probably just get out of

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the way real quick that… It’s just going to

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be me and Peter today. Taffeta is still getting

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over her illness that has set her back quite

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a bit, and we wish her a speedy recovery, and

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I hope she feels better. Yeah, Taffeta, I’m sorry.

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I know you were hoping to do this episode. I

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know a couple things she was going to say, I

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think, so I will do my best to honor that. So

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Peter, it’s been two weeks since we recorded.

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Have you seen anything, done anything, any updates

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you want to share? This is my update. So that

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was a nightlife which was a made -for -tv Horror

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comedy in the late 80s and I mentioned this on

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our earlier episode that I had done a voice commentary

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with David Delvalle on it and it is out So that’s

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kind of exciting. They sell it at Amoeba, Kino

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Lover put it out If you are a sucker for 80s

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horror comedy, you might get a kick out of it

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Hell yeah, I gotta check that out too. I’d love

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to hear you on the DVD commentary track But what’s

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your verdict on the movie thumbs up thumbs down

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thumbs up it was I was pleasantly surprised Cool

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like it has some actual pretty funny moments.

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I mean it never gets super scary, but it’s You

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know it kind of struck a deep interesting balance

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And it was it was smart like it was a smarter.

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You know clever little movie Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah,

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so it’s it’s cool that it’s out there great nightlife

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with Peter and David Deval on the commentary

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released by Kina Lobar. Check it out Did you

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see anything? Yeah, I saw I saw a few things.

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I finally checked out Widows Bay and you were

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right. It’s it’s great I’m two episodes in so

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I don’t know that much about what’s going on,

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but It reminds me a lot of like kind of Stephen

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King stuff You know the town and then something’s

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coming And they’re trying to figure out what

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and you have a skeptic and you know, it’s a Second

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episode kind of reminded me the innkeepers a

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little bit. Mm -hmm But yeah, it’s I’ve I’ve

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been joining it and I’ve just heard nothing but

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good things So thank you for bringing that to

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our attention Christopher. Oh, yeah, of course,

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of course, man. Yeah, I Like about four or five

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episodes in and then we’re having some like Apple

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TV plus subscription thing that we got like,

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we’re like switching over all of our, uh, accounts

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to be like shared accounts. So like we’re in

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the middle of doing that. And so I, I’m like

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locked out of Apple, uh, plus for a little bit.

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So, um, you know, but I’m going to, I want to

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get back on it. So, uh, I’m going to make sure

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we take care of that this week. I, uh, along

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those lines, I saw the burrows the whole, uh,

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series and, um, it’s not as strong as stranger

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things, but it’s, you know, It’s also pretty

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good, and I guess they’re not even gonna make

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a season two. It got cancelled, even though it

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was in the top ten. Shit. That surprised me.

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I haven’t seen it, but just because you’re like,

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yeah, it’s the Duffer Brothers, and that was

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like their stranger things was their bread and

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butter as far as shows go. So it seemed like

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even if this wasn’t as strong, I’m surprised.

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You know, I think it’s… I guess that there’s

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probably two things. I mean, I’m just guessing

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they didn’t really release a reason and even

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Julianne Moore, she even said she didn’t know

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why. So it seems like a little bit of a mystery.

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But if I were guessing, you know, just from watching

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it, I could see how the story just kind of like

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wraps up. And I feel like a second season might

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feel contrived. So I kind of get it. Like, I

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don’t know that you need a second season of that

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story. Also, you know, a lot of times they do

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these series, like they have the Duffer Brothers

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under their like, hundred whatever million dollar

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contract to develop a certain amount of projects

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like a slate for them and it could be that they

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were kind of going through the motions with this

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one but like you never know you know what I mean

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it’s like sometimes they make things because

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they have to I think less these days but back

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in the day you know they would make like pilots

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and stuff and sometimes they would make a pilot

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just because they were You know the deal behind

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the scenes required him to make the pilot, but

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then they wouldn’t pick it up this series so

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I kind of wonder if there’s something like that

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going on where like I could totally be reading

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into this, but well. I mean a lot of times It’s

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the reasons. We don’t know so we start speculating,

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but it was good I mean like I don’t I don’t think

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it was like a waste of money. You know it’s on

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my list I was curious about it. It’s like Stephen

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King you know what I mean like it’s not like

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pure horror or like Sci -fi or whatever. It’s

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like definitely pop, you know pop culture oriented,

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but like it’s it’s like a fun watch I feel like

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Stephen King kind of set the blueprint for like

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Following a community through some kind of like

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horror secret or someplace Yeah, like that’s

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it’s you’re always gonna think of him when it

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comes to that because of how much of it we got

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out of them Totally and it also kind of has some

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pleuribus Parallels if you’ve seen pleuribus

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I that could just be because they both take place

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in like a desert environment, but uh, right,

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but but there is something about Because in Pluribus

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she also lives on a cul -de -sac and these Stars

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in this all live on a cul -de -sac and so like

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there’s you know, there’s some things like that

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Well, I will say that the kind of ironic thing

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is on one hand now that the bros is cancelled

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I’m like, ah, do I really want to watch it? But

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on the other hand, it’s like well, you know,

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it’s you’re only gonna get so much. So maybe

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that’s a reason to Yeah, I mean just view it

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like it’s a complete story just you like that

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mini series good to know. Yeah Yeah, so what

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did you see any movies or anything? Yeah, I saw

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I have a couple movies I want to talk about One

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is and I don’t know if you ever feel this way,

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but I always do and therefore Like as many movies

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as I’ve seen there’s some movies that I have

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not seen that I should have seen years and years

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ago Oh, yeah, I got one of those too. Yeah, but

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because I haven’t seen it. It’s like homework.

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I’m like procrastinate and don’t just don’t see

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it. It’s like if I you know if something’s in

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the theater now it’s like okay it’ll come out

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whatever we’ll see it but in this case it would

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it’s uh the original House on Haunted Hill. I

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had actually started it a few years ago and I

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think I ended up falling asleep and then just

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never watched it but it’s a William Castle movie

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um Vincent Price if you’ve seen the remake I

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would say that’s actually scarier it’s more cutting

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edge but it’s similar plot right where you got

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Vincent Price’s characters invited a bunch of

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guests to this haunted house to stay the night

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and if they do they’ll Get $10 ,000 each and

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then of course at a certain point they get locked

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in and kind of have to deal with it But yeah,

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it was still had a couple pretty good scares

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for its time kept my engagement the whole time

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it uh It’s only an hour and 12 minutes, which

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I liked because I’m like damn man. I’m all these

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two plus two hour plus So that was just a quick

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easy watch. Nice, nice. Yeah, I had a similar

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kind of experience. I watched Fright Night last

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night. Which one, the original? I had the 80s

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Fright Night. Okay, yeah. Is that the original?

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I don’t even know. That’s the original. There’s

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two from the 80s and then there was a remake

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and then a remake sequel. Wow, okay. Yeah, I

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just saw it on Shutter and I was like, you know,

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this has come up a few times and I thought I

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had already seen it, but… I started watching.

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I realized I hadn’t and it was interesting. It

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was, it was, you know, it had that vibe of like,

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uh, you know, eighties, like a John Hughes movie

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meets a horror movie or something. Right. So

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it was like, you know, it was fun, but it’s definitely

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geared, I feel like towards a younger audience.

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It wasn’t like the scariest thing ever. In fact,

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you know, through today’s lens, there are some

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moments that are just like funny. I think when

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they’re trying to be scary, but I really enjoyed

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it. I had a great time. The outfits and the music

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and the 80s styling were just like, mm, Shep’s

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kiss. You know, and the makeup though, like the

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vampire teeth and stuff, particularly with his

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love interest were like, it was just, it looked

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amazing. Yeah, there’s that shot where Charlie,

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I think is the kid and he looks out the window

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and he sees the vampire and he pulls down and

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you see his nails. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And

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the music, yeah, it’s a great movie. Heather

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walked in like near the end and she brought up

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a really good point and she’s like, man, in the

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80s, they really just drew out every scene. Like

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there’s like eight cuts of this, you know, and

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it’s just the editing is like so much slower

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pace than everything. It’s pretty funny actually.

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She’s right. And Tom Holland, who directed it,

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he also directed Child’s Place. So he has this

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theme of like there being something, a threat

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that exists and no one will believe you. Which

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is a pretty cool conceit for a premise, right?

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You have a vampire that lives next door to you,

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and who the fuck’s gonna believe you? Yeah, and

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you know, then I also saw Backrooms, which I

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hadn’t seen the last time we recorded, but obviously

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I’m gonna have to go check that out, and I enjoyed

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it. We actually have talked to you since then,

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and I agree with the point you were talking about,

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this scene that kind of like, just felt a little

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abrupt. and it kind of killed the momentum a

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little bit of the story. But I still think it

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was very strong. I think the production design

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was amazing. I kind of felt like I was in a,

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if you know, like the Modern Art Museum in New

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York, like PS1 or something. But yeah, it was

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a very unique film. That’s what’s great about

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horror now is we’re getting a lot of fresh ideas

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and fresh visions. of what horror movies can

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be and even if they don’t like bat a hundred,

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you know, they’re still an interesting angle

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to like look at a horror film and then I feel

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like Backrooms really did that, you know? Yeah,

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I fully agree. I’m glad you saw it. Yeah, in

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addition to Backrooms, you actually told me about

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a movie that you watched on Shutter Whistle and

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I went and watched it too. What did you think

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about that? Mixed thoughts like I I enjoyed it

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for what it was. Um, I feel like with horror

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these days. You’re either seeing Remakes ips

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or you’re seeing like very indie a 24 neon type

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stuff and this felt more like the type of movie

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You’d see 15 20 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, I could

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so so that’s what I kind of liked about it cuz

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I was like I haven’t seen one of these in a while

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and it had a budget So it stars Daphne Keane,

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right, and she’s this recovering addict at a

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new school living with her cousin. Her father’s

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died, so she’s listening to his record collection

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to get to know him, which I thought was a cool

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way to kind of present the soundtrack of it.

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But the crazy thing, and I may have mentioned

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this to you, Christopher, is like, she looks

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like a spitting image of Anya, my wife, when

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I met her, so that was kind of surreal because

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I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, yeah. It’s very

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weird when someone looks that familiar to you.

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But yeah, I liked it because it felt like a movie

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from another time, you know, kind of like a decent

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sized budget horror movie that’s just for fun.

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And I thought the soundtrack added a lot to it.

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Like it had Back to the Wall by The Divinals,

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which makes me think of Nightmare on Elm Street

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4 because it was from that. The Dark and Lonely

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Night by Tiger Army. was not familiar with and

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I like the band and I thought that was suitable.

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It had time after time, Cyndi Lauper, concrete

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blonde song Joey, ended with Killers by Iron

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Maiden. So I kind of appreciated the care that

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went into that. Yeah, totally. I have similar

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feelings about the movie. I just really liked

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it as a, you know, I had some rough edges and,

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you know, wasn’t like a hundred percent You know,

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it wasn’t like deep cinema or anything like that,

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but it was so much fun. I really enjoyed just

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like watching it. And like you said, the kind

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of kills and gore were like fun and, uh, you

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know, just all in all, it was fun. And, uh, and,

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and I like movies that kind of show their heart

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even when they’re rough, you know, and I think

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that did that. Yeah, yeah, so it was because

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I think I had heard bad things so I went in with

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very low expectations And yeah, totally and I

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also get why why people might you know only give

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it a five or six because of those rough Spots,

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but I think like at its core. It was like a pretty

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good movie, you know, right? Yeah, it was enjoyable

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and The other movie I saw that I just want to

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mention it’s not horror but it’s genre and it’s

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I think people were gonna kick out of it and

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that was Is God Is written and directed by Alicia

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Harris. It stars Kara Young and Mallory Johnson

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is two twin sisters who were burned when they

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were babies. And one of them has it like on her

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arm. I think that’s Kara’s character. And the

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other one’s like completely burned. So they grew

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up and one of them’s the one that’s not as burned

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is always like defending her sister and kind

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of has this little badass. but basically they

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go and they they meet their birth mom who is

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burnt head to toe and that’s by uh that’s played

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by vivica afox and she tells them to go kill

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their birth father who did this to them so it

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becomes this kind of quentin tarantino ish revenge

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movie with a lot of style um and it has a lot

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of heart that i did not see coming and it kind

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of progressively got better as it went and there’s

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a lot of little twists and turns and there’s

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carnage and Yeah, there’s a really fun scene

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with Janelle Monae as well. So I expect a lot

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of good things out of Alicia Harris. Like I really,

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really enjoyed that. Nice. All right. Well, moving

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on to our news. We actually have a, there was

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a lot of news in the last couple of weeks, but

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I’m going to just, you know, I tried to cherry

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pick some of the more interesting ones that I

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came across. Like first we got a, I don’t know.

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I guess it’s a teaser, but it’s kind of like

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just a chunk of the film for Whale Fall, which

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is coming out soon. And it’s really great. I

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sent it to you, I think, and you saw it too,

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right? Yeah, I thought it was great. Yeah, I’m

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kind of looking forward to this one. Speaking

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of unique angles on horror films, if you even

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could call it a horror film, I’m not sure, but

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it’s kind of a survival nature film, but with

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it out. a lot of terror in the story. But we’re

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gonna post a link to that clip on the show notes,

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so feel free to go check that out. And I have

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some on here that I was gonna ask Taffeta about,

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and since she’s not here, I’ll do my best to

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talk about them, but they’re kind of comic related,

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which is not my forte. So apparently there’s

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a lot of rumors about Absolute Batman, which

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was a fairly successful storyline in the Batman

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comic books. Uh, but there’s a lot of rumors

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ahead of San Diego Comic -Con that they’re going

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to announce it as a live action series or film

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or something. So, um, we’re going to have to

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keep our eye out for that one, but this was all,

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uh, a lot of these. Rumors were already kind

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of swirling a bit, um, but they were really kind

00:16:05.440 –> 00:16:09.379
of kicked into high gear by a post by a comic

00:16:09.379 –> 00:16:13.059
book influencer, Josh’s comic books who posted

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this quote unquote. I can say with absolute certainty

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that I have absolutely no evidence that an absolute

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Batman anime movie is in the works. Better grab

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your copies now before this completely unfounded

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rumor sends prices to the moon. For legal reasons,

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I made this up.” And I’ll link to that post in

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our show notes as well, but yeah, I don’t know.

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I’m not that familiar with this particular storyline,

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but there seems to be a lot of excitement around

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it. If you’re interested in Batman and Batman

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films, keep your eye out for that. But what I

00:16:48.759 –> 00:16:52.159
did learn through researching this story is that

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Batman remains DC’s highest grossing property

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by far and is still its most popular. So that’s

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interesting. I guess it makes sense. I don’t

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know what else it would be. Superman maybe, I

00:17:02.480 –> 00:17:05.039
guess. But for our next story, we’re learning

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that there’s going to be a live action straight

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to series adaptation of a novel based on an RPG.

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that some of you might be familiar with. It’s

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called Dungeon Crawler Carl, which is a bit of

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a tongue twister, really. I had to practice a

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few times. But Dungeon Crawler Carl is an adaptation

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of Matt Deniman’s popular science fantasy lit

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RPG books, and it’s going to be produced by Seth

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MacFarlane, his company Fuzzy Door, and Universal

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Global Television. I have a feeling that there’s,

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I don’t know anything about the RPG or the novels,

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but they seem like there’s a bit of a humorous

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element to them. But I imagine there are some

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fans out there, so keep your eye out for that.

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According to Deadline, in Dungeon Crawler Carl,

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written for television by Film and TV and comic

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book writer Chris Yost, an alien invasion has

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wiped out most of humanity, and any survivors

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are forced to fight for their lives on a sadistic

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intergalactic game show. Sounds bad, right? Now

00:18:05.390 –> 00:18:07.609
try doing it with bare feet and stuck -up self

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-centered Tierra Weir – Wearing talking cat as

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your partner So that kind of sets the stage for

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what you’re into Sounds kind of fun. And if they

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do it, right, maybe it’s gonna be like something

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kind of like bad shit crazy We haven’t seen before

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and really cool and fun for all of us people

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not familiar with the novel or RPG Right. I who

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knows but I’m it’s it’s cool to see Companies

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like Peacock and you know, these like bigger

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studios, you know taking risks So they’re not

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taking that big of a risk because it is an IP

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already, but like, you know, it’s a, it’s a risky

00:18:42.910 –> 00:18:46.470
IP, I think. I mean, it’s got Seth McFarland

00:18:46.470 –> 00:18:51.009
behind it. So I’m sure that helps a lot. Yeah.

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A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. He’s, I mean,

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everything he touches seems to work. So, uh,

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great. So the next news item that we would like

00:19:01.390 –> 00:19:04.299
to discuss here is that apparently Curry Barker

00:19:04.299 –> 00:19:07.099
has inked a new horror film deal for an original

00:19:07.099 –> 00:19:10.279
script with Universal, and he will write, produce,

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and direct his untitled fourth film for Blumhouse,

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Atomic Monster, and Universal, which is described

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as like an eight -figure deal, which I guess

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once you knock it out of the park like you did

00:19:23.720 –> 00:19:28.339
with Obsession, you can command those big bucks,

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you know? It sounds like there’s a bit of a bidding

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war with this one too, so… He’s currently in

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post -production on Anything But Ghosts, his

00:19:35.480 –> 00:19:38.460
upcoming supernatural horror feature for focus

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features. And that film is also with Blumhouse

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and Atomic Monster, producer Roy Lee, Spooky

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Pictures, and it’s starring, I think what, Aaron

00:19:51.319 –> 00:19:55.059
Paul, Bryce Dallas Howard, and Violet McGraw.

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So that sounds like it’s going to be a good one.

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I don’t know anything about it, honestly, other

00:20:00.900 –> 00:20:03.900
than that. But the title, Anything But Ghosts,

00:20:03.900 –> 00:20:05.299
I think is like a pretty great title. So I’m

00:20:05.299 –> 00:20:07.579
kind of like, you know, interested to see where

00:20:07.579 –> 00:20:09.059
that goes. It keeps screwing me. There’s a book

00:20:09.059 –> 00:20:11.539
called Head Full of Ghosts, and they’re making

00:20:11.539 –> 00:20:14.500
that into a movie. So I keep thinking of that.

00:20:16.119 –> 00:20:19.500
Nice. Well, hopefully they’re both good. But

00:20:19.500 –> 00:20:22.920
I guess he’s also attached to do the reimagining

00:20:22.920 –> 00:20:27.519
of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre for A24. So I’d

00:20:27.519 –> 00:20:30.079
heard that. It’s also different than the series

00:20:30.079 –> 00:20:32.160
they’re doing, right? If they’re doing an A20

00:20:32.160 –> 00:20:34.319
or a Texas Chainsaw Massacre series. Yeah, they’re

00:20:34.319 –> 00:20:39.779
doing like a prequel series. So building a universe.

00:20:40.079 –> 00:20:42.299
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s what we do these days,

00:20:42.299 –> 00:20:45.559
right? But I mean, you know, after Obsession

00:20:45.559 –> 00:20:49.660
and Curry Barker is clearly, you know, one of

00:20:49.660 –> 00:20:51.779
the hottest names in horror at the moment along

00:20:51.779 –> 00:20:55.380
with, you know, front of the pod Zach Greger

00:20:55.380 –> 00:21:02.099
and I imagine Cain Parsons is up there. Cain

00:21:02.099 –> 00:21:04.980
Parsons was asked about doing remakes and he

00:21:04.980 –> 00:21:06.940
has no interest, which I thought was interesting.

00:21:07.539 –> 00:21:09.779
Yeah. Well, we’ll see when the money comes knocking.

00:21:11.299 –> 00:21:14.059
Well, it probably is coming knocking. Right.

00:21:14.059 –> 00:21:16.319
Exactly. It’s probably like really rethinking

00:21:16.319 –> 00:21:19.920
those words right about now. Maybe. I mean, I

00:21:19.920 –> 00:21:23.440
don’t know. Can’t speak for him. Well, we have

00:21:23.440 –> 00:21:25.680
another story here, which I chose just for you,

00:21:25.680 –> 00:21:28.880
Peter. Oh, no, I know what this is. I’m going

00:21:28.880 –> 00:21:32.380
to say no comment, but I go for it. So Glenn

00:21:32.380 –> 00:21:35.440
Danzig is set to direct an adaptation of his

00:21:35.440 –> 00:21:40.220
comic book Hell Mask. This project is going to

00:21:40.220 –> 00:21:43.859
be his third feature as a director. And he’s

00:21:43.859 –> 00:21:46.220
previously dove into his other comic book properties

00:21:46.220 –> 00:21:50.730
on the screen with Beratika. which I believe

00:21:50.730 –> 00:21:52.769
you sent me in a text that you did not like very

00:21:52.769 –> 00:21:56.609
much. And he also directed this Vampire Spedigy

00:21:56.609 –> 00:21:59.609
Western Death Rider in the House of Vampires,

00:21:59.630 –> 00:22:01.910
which came out in 2021, which I hadn’t heard

00:22:01.910 –> 00:22:05.190
of either of them, so clearly they weren’t big

00:22:05.190 –> 00:22:09.390
hits, so to speak. Well, I think it’s pronounced

00:22:09.390 –> 00:22:14.490
Verotica. When that came out, you know, people

00:22:14.490 –> 00:22:18.230
were very curious because Glenn Danzig loves

00:22:18.480 –> 00:22:21.740
horror, you know, the misfits were considered

00:22:21.740 –> 00:22:25.240
horror punk. He did reviews for Flipside magazine

00:22:25.240 –> 00:22:28.460
back in the day, talking about movies he liked

00:22:28.460 –> 00:22:31.839
and did not like. So he I guess was kind of my

00:22:31.839 –> 00:22:34.059
theory is because of the misfit reunions, he

00:22:34.059 –> 00:22:35.819
had money that he’s like, I’m gonna fund my own

00:22:35.819 –> 00:22:40.579
movies and do it that way. So when Veronica came

00:22:40.579 –> 00:22:45.259
out, yeah, he did not get the reaction he was

00:22:45.259 –> 00:22:48.380
hoping for. I think like There’s a famous thing

00:22:48.380 –> 00:22:51.519
where he’s like shows it and everyone’s laughing

00:22:51.519 –> 00:22:55.700
and that’s not what he wanted right um and so

00:22:55.700 –> 00:23:00.099
I felt obligated to watch it and There is a reason

00:23:00.099 –> 00:23:03.819
it is a two on IMDB Wow, I didn’t realize that

00:23:03.819 –> 00:23:07.779
that poorly rated. It’s it’s a weird I think

00:23:07.779 –> 00:23:11.319
he was trying to do this gene rolling type thing

00:23:11.319 –> 00:23:17.039
He’s like this kind of euro trash 70s 80s I don’t

00:23:17.039 –> 00:23:21.319
know. It makes strange movies. And I did see

00:23:21.319 –> 00:23:23.420
like one clip that was on shutter before the

00:23:23.420 –> 00:23:25.200
movie. I was like, oh, that actually looks very

00:23:25.200 –> 00:23:27.259
interesting. But when you see it all together,

00:23:27.259 –> 00:23:30.259
it’s like, wait, what’s going on? And things

00:23:30.259 –> 00:23:33.359
are very drawn out. I don’t want to like trash

00:23:33.359 –> 00:23:37.019
his movie. But yeah, it was not what I was hoping

00:23:37.019 –> 00:23:40.299
for. I think a lot of people were hoping for

00:23:40.299 –> 00:23:43.200
something scary. And this was a little bit different

00:23:43.200 –> 00:23:48.539
than that. Who knows maybe Gansig has spent the

00:23:48.539 –> 00:23:49.700
last few years being like, all right, I’m going

00:23:49.700 –> 00:23:51.920
to show them these motherfuckers, like how it’s

00:23:51.920 –> 00:23:55.380
done and studied up and you know, all that. Who

00:23:55.380 –> 00:23:57.779
really knows? Well, let’s, let’s hope for the

00:23:57.779 –> 00:24:02.500
best. Um, but per the log line. So this story

00:24:02.500 –> 00:24:05.079
is set against a brutal medieval backdrop filled

00:24:05.079 –> 00:24:07.339
with dark magic, armored warriors and massive

00:24:07.339 –> 00:24:10.359
bloody battle scenes. Hellmass follows a violent

00:24:10.359 –> 00:24:13.380
supernatural tale steeped in Gothic atmosphere,

00:24:13.500 –> 00:24:16.700
which sounds. Great. It sounds like it’s a high

00:24:16.700 –> 00:24:19.059
budget film, but I have a feeling it’s not, they’re

00:24:19.059 –> 00:24:21.000
not going to have a high budget, which makes

00:24:21.000 –> 00:24:23.880
me concerned a little bit, but you know, fingers

00:24:23.880 –> 00:24:25.720
crossed, because we all would love him to land

00:24:25.720 –> 00:24:29.619
on his feet and make a banger of a film. His

00:24:29.619 –> 00:24:31.839
Death Rider is one which I haven’t seen, the

00:24:31.839 –> 00:24:35.880
vampire western movie. That had Julian Sands

00:24:35.880 –> 00:24:38.759
and Devin Sawa. It had like some names in it,

00:24:38.759 –> 00:24:43.710
but I have not seen it, so I can’t. I can’t comment

00:24:43.710 –> 00:24:45.430
on that. All right, well you got homework to

00:24:45.430 –> 00:24:49.809
do. Ah, don’t I always. All right, well, you

00:24:49.809 –> 00:24:53.009
said you had a couple other news things you wanted

00:24:53.009 –> 00:24:56.569
to bring up? Yeah, I got two movies to share

00:24:56.569 –> 00:24:59.750
that are coming out, oddly, the same day, which

00:24:59.750 –> 00:25:06.369
is a weird coincidence. So, the first is, Christopher,

00:25:06.470 –> 00:25:09.069
are you familiar with Too Many Cooks, by any

00:25:09.069 –> 00:25:12.309
chance? Yeah, I remember that coming out and

00:25:12.309 –> 00:25:16.509
you know being viral I I appreciated it for its

00:25:16.509 –> 00:25:18.529
like artistic quality, but I wasn’t like I didn’t

00:25:18.529 –> 00:25:22.089
see like why I was so beloved It’s just like

00:25:22.089 –> 00:25:24.970
I knew nothing about it and randomly stumbled

00:25:24.970 –> 00:25:27.089
across it was like what the fuck is this with

00:25:27.089 –> 00:25:30.250
all the sitcom? Montages going over and over

00:25:30.250 –> 00:25:32.490
and then Lars volunteers appearing up and just

00:25:32.490 –> 00:25:37.289
being like this crazy absurdist Horror kind of

00:25:37.289 –> 00:25:41.420
piece by the end of it um anyway the the creator

00:25:41.420 –> 00:25:44.279
of that or one of the creators uh casper kelly

00:25:44.279 –> 00:25:47.400
who he was a writer and he directed it uh has

00:25:47.400 –> 00:25:49.480
a new movie coming out and if you haven’t seen

00:25:49.480 –> 00:25:52.000
too many cooks but you’ve seen mandy he was responsible

00:25:52.000 –> 00:25:55.140
for the cheddar goblin bit and he did the fun

00:25:55.140 –> 00:25:59.220
size segment on vhs halloween so you if you’re

00:25:59.220 –> 00:26:00.759
familiar with any of those you kind of get a

00:26:00.759 –> 00:26:04.309
sensibility But he has this movie coming out

00:26:04.309 –> 00:26:07.349
August 28th called Buddy, and it’s where a brave

00:26:07.349 –> 00:26:10.609
girl and her friend must escape a kid’s television

00:26:10.609 –> 00:26:13.710
show. The concept makes me think of this movie

00:26:13.710 –> 00:26:16.730
on Hulu from a couple years ago called Mr. Crockett.

00:26:18.089 –> 00:26:22.650
And this one stars Kristen Milioti, who is in

00:26:22.650 –> 00:26:24.829
the movie Palm Springs, and she’s on Black Mirror.

00:26:24.990 –> 00:26:28.150
It has Topher Grace, and you know, that 70s show,

00:26:28.630 –> 00:26:31.150
and some other stuff. Patton Oswald. Michael

00:26:31.150 –> 00:26:34.250
Shannon in Keegan, Michael Key from Key and Peele.

00:26:34.390 –> 00:26:36.809
So I think that might be interesting, but it

00:26:36.809 –> 00:26:39.890
might be very like absurdist. So it might be

00:26:39.890 –> 00:26:42.930
something that appeals to certain people. Yeah,

00:26:43.029 –> 00:26:45.009
well, like it kind of sounds like it would be

00:26:45.009 –> 00:26:48.230
perfect for his style, his aesthetic. Yeah, no,

00:26:48.230 –> 00:26:50.990
totally. I mean, it makes a lot of sense on paper

00:26:50.990 –> 00:26:54.690
for sure. And one other movie that also is coming

00:26:54.690 –> 00:26:59.680
out August 28th, Yeon Sang -Hoo, or how… I

00:26:59.680 –> 00:27:00.960
think that’s how he says his name. He’s the guy

00:27:00.960 –> 00:27:04.400
who brought us Train to Besant, which is a great

00:27:04.400 –> 00:27:06.740
zombie movie with a lot of heart. Actually, it’s

00:27:06.740 –> 00:27:09.599
a very touching movie. He has a movie called

00:27:09.599 –> 00:27:13.880
Colony coming out, and that’s about someone named

00:27:13.880 –> 00:27:17.319
Professor C. Young. He attends a biotech conference

00:27:17.319 –> 00:27:19.880
only to witness it spiral into a catastrophe

00:27:19.880 –> 00:27:24.000
when a rapidly mutating virus is unleashed. As

00:27:24.000 –> 00:27:26.640
the outbreak spreads and infected begin to transform,

00:27:27.259 –> 00:27:29.839
authorities seal off the entire facility. And

00:27:29.839 –> 00:27:33.519
that stars Ku -Kai -O -Huan, who was in the sequel

00:27:33.519 –> 00:27:38.519
to Train of Busan, Peninsula, and Jun -Jai -Haeun,

00:27:38.680 –> 00:27:43.000
who was on the series Kingdom. So, I watched

00:27:43.000 –> 00:27:44.880
the trailer for that and I thought that looked

00:27:44.880 –> 00:27:47.059
fun, like if you like zombie stuff, it looked

00:27:47.059 –> 00:27:49.960
like it was hitting that mark. Nice, nice. Yeah,

00:27:49.980 –> 00:27:52.559
I wanted to check that out, actually. Great.

00:27:53.240 –> 00:27:56.299
Well, let’s get into the releases and… Again,

00:27:56.299 –> 00:27:58.119
since we switched to bi -weekly schedule, we’re

00:27:58.119 –> 00:28:03.559
gonna do two weekends, June 26th and July 3rd.

00:28:04.539 –> 00:28:09.819
So for the weekend of June 26th, the big release

00:28:09.819 –> 00:28:14.740
is Supergirl for DC, and that’s written by Anna

00:28:14.740 –> 00:28:18.440
Nagira and directed by Craig Gillespie, who did

00:28:18.440 –> 00:28:20.259
Fright Night, which is part of why it was on

00:28:20.259 –> 00:28:23.980
my mind to watch last night. Oh, one of the newer

00:28:23.980 –> 00:28:27.230
ones, I guess, yeah. Right. Um, he also did I,

00:28:27.369 –> 00:28:31.549
Tanya and Lars and the real girl. So he, he’s

00:28:31.549 –> 00:28:33.250
a good director. You know, I would see what he

00:28:33.250 –> 00:28:36.930
does with a big, you know, DC temple. Uh, it

00:28:36.930 –> 00:28:39.809
stars Millie Alcock of House of the Dragon and

00:28:39.809 –> 00:28:43.869
Pine Gap, David Cornsweat from Pearl and We Own

00:28:43.869 –> 00:28:46.890
This City and Eve Ridley, who was in The Witcher

00:28:46.890 –> 00:28:50.730
and Three Body Problem for Netflix. Uh, and,

00:28:50.730 –> 00:28:56.440
and the, the short synopsis is Kara Zor -El aka

00:28:56.440 –> 00:28:59.980
Supergirl joins forces with an unlikely companion

00:28:59.980 –> 00:29:02.559
on an interstellar journey of vengeance and justice

00:29:02.559 –> 00:29:05.079
when an unexpected adversary strikes too close

00:29:05.079 –> 00:29:09.440
to home. You know, you could almost insert any

00:29:09.440 –> 00:29:13.299
superhero into that description and work. We’ll

00:29:13.299 –> 00:29:15.759
see if it’s good. You know, I tend to think DC

00:29:15.759 –> 00:29:18.240
movies are better than Marvel movies, but like,

00:29:19.019 –> 00:29:20.940
it’s just, you know, I don’t know if it’s just

00:29:20.940 –> 00:29:25.160
me, but I’m just a little… Like a superhero

00:29:25.160 –> 00:29:28.220
movie needs to be like unique now for me to like

00:29:28.220 –> 00:29:31.519
be interested in receiving it really Right. I

00:29:31.519 –> 00:29:34.019
mean, I think that’s why like at least I didn’t

00:29:34.019 –> 00:29:36.619
see this Joker sequel But the first one I thought

00:29:36.619 –> 00:29:39.519
was fantastic because I was nothing like a superhero

00:29:39.519 –> 00:29:42.480
movie. I mean, it’s a villain but And Logan was

00:29:42.480 –> 00:29:45.259
so good. Yeah Logan was great and a lot of people

00:29:45.259 –> 00:29:47.640
liked Wandavision I didn’t actually see Wandavision,

00:29:47.680 –> 00:29:52.170
but another example of that. Yeah unconventional

00:29:52.170 –> 00:29:54.170
kind of thing. Yeah, yeah and apparently Clayface

00:29:54.170 –> 00:29:58.630
too which I still haven’t seen but I guess, oh

00:29:58.630 –> 00:30:02.730
sorry, I’m thinking of not, Clayface also which

00:30:02.730 –> 00:30:06.109
is the horror movie in the fall that’s coming

00:30:06.109 –> 00:30:08.009
out yeah but I was thinking of the series The

00:30:08.009 –> 00:30:12.130
Penguin which is more of a noir kind of vibe

00:30:12.130 –> 00:30:13.809
and supposedly very good and which I haven’t

00:30:13.809 –> 00:30:18.230
seen yet. The next film coming out on the 26th

00:30:18.230 –> 00:30:22.289
is a horror film called Camp. And at first I

00:30:22.289 –> 00:30:24.849
was like, Oh, is this, uh, you know, did they

00:30:24.849 –> 00:30:28.269
rename the film that you worked on? No, they

00:30:28.269 –> 00:30:30.630
didn’t post something about that. It’s like stay

00:30:30.630 –> 00:30:34.269
tuned on Instagram last week. So, Oh, cool. It’s

00:30:34.269 –> 00:30:36.369
Camp Sleepo. Camp Triple Moon. Camp Triple Moon.

00:30:36.390 –> 00:30:39.549
That’s right. So this is just called Camp and

00:30:39.549 –> 00:30:42.710
it’s written and directed by Avalon Fast, who

00:30:42.710 –> 00:30:45.910
did, uh, another small indie horror called Honeycomb

00:30:45.910 –> 00:30:50.339
before that. And it stars Zola Grimmer. Alice

00:30:50.339 –> 00:30:54.839
Wadsworth and Cherry Moore and they’re basically

00:30:54.839 –> 00:30:58.059
all unknowns. Alice Wadsworth’s been in like

00:30:58.059 –> 00:30:59.660
a couple of small things I’ve never heard of

00:30:59.660 –> 00:31:02.720
like Eyes in the Woods and Cowboys Against Thunder

00:31:02.720 –> 00:31:05.359
but other than that the other two are first timers

00:31:05.359 –> 00:31:09.779
and this movie I you know it’s doing a theatrical

00:31:09.779 –> 00:31:13.960
release but it’s like a very there’s a lot of

00:31:13.960 –> 00:31:17.359
unknowns about it you know. That’s kind of exciting

00:31:17.359 –> 00:31:20.910
because you just don’t know. Yeah. Like it could

00:31:20.910 –> 00:31:22.730
be good, but we’ll see. I guess the jury’s out.

00:31:22.789 –> 00:31:26.269
So the short synopsis of this is a story of impossible

00:31:26.269 –> 00:31:28.549
redemption, modern witchcraft and duels that

00:31:28.549 –> 00:31:31.049
repeat themselves like curse cycles. And what

00:31:31.049 –> 00:31:33.210
I got from it from watching the trailer was it’s

00:31:33.210 –> 00:31:36.650
kind of focused around a few girls at a sleepaway

00:31:36.650 –> 00:31:39.809
camp who are seem like they’re witches or they’re

00:31:39.809 –> 00:31:42.069
very witchy. And maybe they’re like trying to

00:31:42.069 –> 00:31:47.920
get revenge or something on other people. maybe

00:31:47.920 –> 00:31:50.799
guys, I’m not sure, but it looks, it actually

00:31:50.799 –> 00:31:52.640
didn’t look bad by the, based on the trailer.

00:31:52.700 –> 00:31:54.279
Like, I mean, I think there’s an audience for

00:31:54.279 –> 00:31:57.299
it, you know, maybe geared a little more towards

00:31:57.299 –> 00:32:00.859
like younger people, like in the, you know, teens,

00:32:01.160 –> 00:32:05.720
early 20s. It’s like a, the craft is what comes

00:32:05.720 –> 00:32:07.980
to mind. I had a craft vibe for sure. Right.

00:32:08.420 –> 00:32:11.880
So yeah, that could be cool. And then we have

00:32:11.880 –> 00:32:15.420
a mysterious series coming out a couple of days

00:32:15.420 –> 00:32:18.890
after that weekend. which I can’t find really

00:32:18.890 –> 00:32:22.069
any information on, but apparently there’s like

00:32:22.069 –> 00:32:24.869
eight episodes of this series. So it’s got to

00:32:24.869 –> 00:32:26.190
be for a streamer, but I couldn’t figure out

00:32:26.190 –> 00:32:28.910
what streamer I couldn’t figure out. Like I didn’t

00:32:28.910 –> 00:32:31.849
find any trade articles about it or anything.

00:32:32.130 –> 00:32:34.250
So I don’t know. Uh, so jury’s out on whether

00:32:34.250 –> 00:32:35.910
this is worth checking out or even if you can

00:32:35.910 –> 00:32:38.690
check it out, but it’s called the Paradise Valley

00:32:38.690 –> 00:32:44.230
incident and it’s a writer, showrunner or director,

00:32:44.529 –> 00:32:51.160
JK Shawahan. Shahan. Shahan. Uh, and the premise

00:32:51.160 –> 00:32:54.180
is in 2018, a small neighborhood in Nevada would

00:32:54.180 –> 00:32:56.819
face a horrifying and disturbing incident regarding

00:32:56.819 –> 00:33:00.079
the introduction of psychosis targeted pharmaceutical

00:33:00.079 –> 00:33:04.079
drug, octazine, octrazine that would haunt the

00:33:04.079 –> 00:33:06.900
town for years to come, which could be actually,

00:33:06.900 –> 00:33:10.140
uh, potentially sounds like an intriguing premise,

00:33:10.880 –> 00:33:13.839
but again, I can’t find out anything about it.

00:33:13.940 –> 00:33:18.819
We’ll see. Okay, and that that’s it for that

00:33:18.819 –> 00:33:22.859
week the following week the weekend of July 3rd

00:33:22.859 –> 00:33:26.000
There’s basically not much being released that

00:33:26.000 –> 00:33:30.039
You know at least that in the genre horror space

00:33:30.039 –> 00:33:34.700
So it’s gonna be a slow weekend You could catch

00:33:34.700 –> 00:33:36.759
up on some of these that have been coming out

00:33:36.759 –> 00:33:39.140
at a rapid clip in the the winter and spring

00:33:39.140 –> 00:33:43.140
here With that it brings us on to the main topic

00:33:43.140 –> 00:33:46.259
of today’s conversation which Should be a fun

00:33:46.259 –> 00:33:49.039
one and Peter’s going to lead the discussion

00:33:49.039 –> 00:33:52.839
on this one and give us a little bit of an introduction.

00:33:54.059 –> 00:33:57.720
Yeah, thank you Christopher. So as you probably

00:33:57.720 –> 00:34:00.059
picked up by the intro, we’re going to be talking

00:34:00.059 –> 00:34:03.500
about soundtracks, not really scores. I think

00:34:03.500 –> 00:34:05.779
we’re going to try to save doing scores to when

00:34:05.779 –> 00:34:10.139
we actually have a composer on, but soundtracks

00:34:10.139 –> 00:34:14.619
are such a big part of a movie. And growing up,

00:34:14.719 –> 00:34:18.179
if you watch them. Real quick, I think just to

00:34:18.179 –> 00:34:19.820
piggyback on what you just said, I just want

00:34:19.820 –> 00:34:23.519
to clarify, we’re talking about soundtracks that

00:34:23.519 –> 00:34:28.860
are essentially licensed songs. So not like just

00:34:28.860 –> 00:34:31.599
pure music, like these are like songs like you

00:34:31.599 –> 00:34:32.920
might hear on the radio and things like that.

00:34:32.940 –> 00:34:35.659
And I make that distinction just because, you

00:34:35.659 –> 00:34:37.179
know, when I was doing research for this, anytime

00:34:37.179 –> 00:34:39.179
I would Google soundtracks, it included, you

00:34:39.179 –> 00:34:42.099
know, scores as well. So like what Peter said

00:34:42.099 –> 00:34:46.420
is like, Basically like this is like songs Yeah,

00:34:46.559 –> 00:34:48.719
and I mean what’s even interesting about that

00:34:48.719 –> 00:34:52.159
is some movies have a lot of interesting songs

00:34:52.159 –> 00:34:54.559
in them and then don’t have the license to put

00:34:54.559 –> 00:34:58.300
out the soundtrack right so so it will probably

00:34:58.300 –> 00:35:01.559
be touching on some of those but horror movies

00:35:01.559 –> 00:35:05.239
are A lot of them are known for their soundtracks.

00:35:05.239 –> 00:35:08.760
And so it’s just kind of an interesting Topic

00:35:08.760 –> 00:35:11.820
if you grew up watching these because it probably

00:35:11.820 –> 00:35:13.619
introduced you to one of your favorite bands

00:35:13.619 –> 00:35:17.219
or opened your mind to new music or something

00:35:17.219 –> 00:35:20.559
So it just seemed like a fun fun reason to talk

00:35:20.559 –> 00:35:22.219
about it like we mentioned that movie whistle

00:35:22.219 –> 00:35:24.739
Which I thought had a pretty interesting soundtrack

00:35:24.739 –> 00:35:27.539
that caught me off guard totally in the way that

00:35:27.539 –> 00:35:31.519
they integrate songs into the film to in horror

00:35:31.519 –> 00:35:33.820
films like can be really interesting and unique

00:35:33.820 –> 00:35:37.289
because you know a lot of times It opens up the

00:35:37.289 –> 00:35:42.690
opportunity, right, for, like, contrasting potentially

00:35:42.690 –> 00:35:45.030
pop music or heavy metal or something like that

00:35:45.030 –> 00:35:47.849
with, like, horrific elements. And so you could

00:35:47.849 –> 00:35:50.389
do some really clever, unique things. Like, it

00:35:50.389 –> 00:35:52.750
doesn’t always have to be, like, a scary song,

00:35:52.750 –> 00:35:56.610
you know? Right. I mean, it’s like, for one example,

00:35:56.989 –> 00:36:01.389
the song Goodbye Horses by Key Lazarus, they

00:36:01.389 –> 00:36:03.769
play that at 80s club, you know, 80s nights,

00:36:04.150 –> 00:36:06.260
goth nights, whatever, but… If you hear that

00:36:06.260 –> 00:36:08.059
song, your mind is probably going to Buffalo

00:36:08.059 –> 00:36:11.820
Bill from Silence of the Lambs, right? They just

00:36:11.820 –> 00:36:13.639
have this kind of magical way of taking you to

00:36:13.639 –> 00:36:16.699
that. But the impact of this is really interesting

00:36:16.699 –> 00:36:19.780
if you track like modern day because look at

00:36:19.780 –> 00:36:23.000
Stranger Things, right? The Stranger Things effect

00:36:23.000 –> 00:36:25.840
is where Kate Bush running up that hill was,

00:36:26.480 –> 00:36:28.059
you know, I think it was on a couple of the episodes

00:36:28.059 –> 00:36:30.659
of the second to last season. You had Purple

00:36:30.659 –> 00:36:33.400
Rain and When Doves Cry by Prince, Landslide

00:36:33.400 –> 00:36:36.400
by Fleetwood Mac, these songs all started charting

00:36:36.400 –> 00:36:39.199
again. Uh, Pass the Dutchie by Musical Youth

00:36:39.199 –> 00:36:44.820
had a 1030 spike in percent spike in global streams.

00:36:45.099 –> 00:36:48.000
Um, then you have Depeche Mode’s Never Let Me

00:36:48.000 –> 00:36:50.300
Down that charted and that was using The Last

00:36:50.300 –> 00:36:53.239
of Us. So it’s telling – I really enjoy that.

00:36:53.460 –> 00:36:57.119
You know, it’s like, it’s fun to, um, see, you

00:36:57.119 –> 00:37:00.929
know, these artists who like just – Sitting around

00:37:00.929 –> 00:37:03.809
enjoying, you know, then, you know, their golden

00:37:03.809 –> 00:37:05.570
years or whatever and then all of a sudden they’re

00:37:05.570 –> 00:37:09.050
like charting again and like, you know, potentially

00:37:09.050 –> 00:37:11.409
higher than they did originally, which is like

00:37:11.409 –> 00:37:15.349
crazy, you know, it must be such a crazy set

00:37:15.349 –> 00:37:17.849
of circumstances for them, you know? Yeah, I

00:37:17.849 –> 00:37:20.010
mean, it’s all, you know, all of a sudden these

00:37:20.010 –> 00:37:22.230
artists get popular and it’s not stuff that’s

00:37:22.230 –> 00:37:24.969
like, again with horror, a lot of that stuff

00:37:24.969 –> 00:37:27.650
isn’t always played on the radio. So you’re getting

00:37:27.650 –> 00:37:31.309
kind of edgier, deeper cuts that shows like Stranger

00:37:31.309 –> 00:37:35.230
Things want to kind of include. So it’s pretty

00:37:35.230 –> 00:37:38.989
fascinating. And I mentioned, you know, the Iron

00:37:38.989 –> 00:37:42.010
Maiden song used in Whistle. And I was reading

00:37:42.010 –> 00:37:43.710
an interview with the guy and he’s like, yeah,

00:37:43.710 –> 00:37:46.469
they just use it in the, you know, finale or

00:37:46.469 –> 00:37:48.570
one of the last episodes of Stranger Things.

00:37:48.750 –> 00:37:51.550
And it was also in like the last 28 days later.

00:37:51.610 –> 00:37:54.809
So Iron Maiden is currently being used a lot.

00:37:56.159 –> 00:37:59.139
So the format we’re gonna you know propose a

00:37:59.139 –> 00:38:01.619
couple questions to each other to talk about

00:38:01.619 –> 00:38:04.079
You know moments and films talk about some of

00:38:04.079 –> 00:38:07.559
our favorite soundtracks And I’m sure we both

00:38:07.559 –> 00:38:11.280
have anecdotes about them As well as I feel like

00:38:11.280 –> 00:38:12.880
there’s certain horror movie soundtracks You

00:38:12.880 –> 00:38:14.380
kind of have to touch on because they were such

00:38:14.380 –> 00:38:17.599
a big part of the movie and its identity But

00:38:17.599 –> 00:38:21.539
if we get into like where sound came into film

00:38:21.539 –> 00:38:23.559
I’m just gonna go through this really quick because

00:38:23.559 –> 00:38:28.340
it’s kind of fascinating The first film that

00:38:28.340 –> 00:38:32.980
had sound was actually like in 1894. It was called

00:38:32.980 –> 00:38:38.059
the Dickinson Experimental Sound and it was known

00:38:38.059 –> 00:38:40.579
for having live recorded sound made by William

00:38:40.579 –> 00:38:47.099
Dickinson and they used a phonograph that I think

00:38:47.099 –> 00:38:50.699
Edison was responsible for. But it’s interesting

00:38:50.699 –> 00:38:51.980
because if you look at that and it’s like all

00:38:51.980 –> 00:38:55.800
right late 1800s, it wasn’t until Don Juan in

00:38:55.800 –> 00:38:59.800
1926 featured a synchronized musical score and

00:38:59.800 –> 00:39:02.840
sound effects and no spoken dialogue. And that’s

00:39:02.840 –> 00:39:05.579
because I guess with phonographs, they have these,

00:39:06.679 –> 00:39:09.500
and I guess it was kinetoscopes were the tools,

00:39:09.500 –> 00:39:12.239
but it was hard to sync sound. Phonographs has

00:39:12.239 –> 00:39:14.679
wax cylinders that would often break. So the

00:39:14.679 –> 00:39:17.260
technology really wasn’t there until you get

00:39:17.260 –> 00:39:20.440
into the 1920s. And then you have The Jazz Singer

00:39:20.440 –> 00:39:23.179
in 1927, which is the first film with a sung

00:39:23.179 –> 00:39:27.869
song. Um, so that’s about the time you’re getting

00:39:27.869 –> 00:39:30.489
into like, okay, we can do audio and film in

00:39:30.489 –> 00:39:34.050
a successful way. So Lights of New York in 1928

00:39:34.050 –> 00:39:36.409
was a first to have audio dialogue all the way

00:39:36.409 –> 00:39:38.329
through, which made it kind of the hallmark of

00:39:38.329 –> 00:39:40.809
the talking revolution, which is where now you

00:39:40.809 –> 00:39:43.190
have actors talking and it’s not just cards you’re

00:39:43.190 –> 00:39:47.289
reading. Um, but what’s interesting is the first

00:39:47.289 –> 00:39:50.289
soundtrack you could buy came out in 1938 and

00:39:50.289 –> 00:39:52.329
it’s an animated film. Christopher, do you have

00:39:52.329 –> 00:39:54.579
any guesses? i’m sure you’ve seen this and are

00:39:54.579 –> 00:40:01.500
very familiar with it uh fantasia yeah actually

00:40:01.500 –> 00:40:03.760
you’re not you’re not far off it’s uh snow white

00:40:03.760 –> 00:40:06.079
in the seven dwarfs and that kind of i was actually

00:40:06.079 –> 00:40:08.019
gonna i was i was thinking about that and then

00:40:08.019 –> 00:40:10.099
i was like well i think fantasia is before that

00:40:10.099 –> 00:40:13.500
but yeah it’s uh it it kind of has elements of

00:40:13.500 –> 00:40:16.079
horror you have your poisoned apple evil queen

00:40:16.079 –> 00:40:18.860
haunted forest right like yeah totally uh you

00:40:18.860 –> 00:40:21.340
know it’s a fairy tale i mean the actual snow

00:40:21.340 –> 00:40:23.420
white i believe the grim’s brother’s version

00:40:23.420 –> 00:40:26.000
of it is more of a horror. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

00:40:26.440 –> 00:40:28.360
So I just thought that was kind of a fun tidbit

00:40:28.360 –> 00:40:30.920
but we’re going to be talking about obviously

00:40:30.920 –> 00:40:33.480
the more modern stuff and I mean when I say modern

00:40:33.480 –> 00:40:36.539
stuff this is like 30, 40, 50 years ago and a

00:40:36.539 –> 00:40:39.940
little more recent but the 70s is really where

00:40:39.940 –> 00:40:44.059
you started seeing soundtracks. You had three

00:40:44.059 –> 00:40:46.400
kind of musical horror films come out in the

00:40:46.400 –> 00:40:49.219
70s and that was The Son of Dracula which featured

00:40:49.449 –> 00:40:51.909
Ringo Starr from The Beatles, and it was kind

00:40:51.909 –> 00:40:54.949
of a musical. Brian De Palma’s Phantom of the

00:40:54.949 –> 00:40:58.349
Paradise, and a year or two later you had Rocky

00:40:58.349 –> 00:41:01.369
Horror Picture Show. You know, which is a musical

00:41:01.369 –> 00:41:04.630
foremost, but has these strange and creepy characters.

00:41:04.969 –> 00:41:07.530
You have Tim Curry and Meat Loaf, and of course

00:41:07.530 –> 00:41:10.889
it’s leaning as a musical. So that soundtrack

00:41:10.889 –> 00:41:15.380
became huge, right? Also, you had the Wicker

00:41:15.380 –> 00:41:18.440
Man, which came out in 73, and that soundtrack

00:41:18.440 –> 00:41:21.199
was a blend of like folk music and psychedelic

00:41:21.199 –> 00:41:24.840
rock that really influenced the neo -folk music

00:41:24.840 –> 00:41:27.139
in the years to come. And, uh, Daniel Siklinski

00:41:27.139 –> 00:41:28.619
was telling me this at Horror Trivia, and I was

00:41:28.619 –> 00:41:30.199
like, yeah, shit, that’s, that’s pretty interesting.

00:41:30.920 –> 00:41:33.440
But what really, I think, changed in the way

00:41:33.440 –> 00:41:37.099
that we looked at soundtracks is in the 80s,

00:41:37.179 –> 00:41:41.769
you had MTV. They came out August 81. And then

00:41:41.769 –> 00:41:44.150
that really like opened the Floyd gates for this

00:41:44.150 –> 00:41:48.690
stuff. But I do want to mention this movie that’s

00:41:48.690 –> 00:41:51.050
kind of obscure that happened in 81 because this

00:41:51.050 –> 00:41:56.329
is just kind of fascinating. It was called See

00:41:56.329 –> 00:42:00.210
No Evil. And that soundtrack is fucking crazy.

00:42:00.789 –> 00:42:03.889
It had Psycho Killer by the Talking Heads. I

00:42:03.889 –> 00:42:07.210
think it had a Sex Pistol song. It had Blitzkrieg

00:42:07.210 –> 00:42:10.329
Bop. It had the Boomtown Rats. All this stuff.

00:42:10.639 –> 00:42:13.099
And by today’s standards, if you wanted to license

00:42:13.099 –> 00:42:16.059
those songs, it’d be greater than the budget

00:42:16.059 –> 00:42:18.920
of the movie. So I thought that they didn’t license

00:42:18.920 –> 00:42:21.099
it, but apparently he did and it was just a lot

00:42:21.099 –> 00:42:26.940
cheaper back then. So as time goes on, you have

00:42:26.940 –> 00:42:29.440
all these soundtracks that kind of came out.

00:42:29.900 –> 00:42:32.980
And it’s pretty wild because there’s a lot of

00:42:32.980 –> 00:42:35.280
recurring songs. So like, if you think about

00:42:35.280 –> 00:42:38.500
it, this is my theory. But Don’t Fear the Reaper

00:42:38.500 –> 00:42:40.920
by The Blue Oyster Cult is probably the most

00:42:40.920 –> 00:42:44.960
used song in horror movies. It’s like a pop or

00:42:44.960 –> 00:42:48.340
radio hit, you know, that was, it was in Halloween,

00:42:48.340 –> 00:42:49.960
but it’s just kind of playing when the car is

00:42:49.960 –> 00:42:52.679
going. So it doesn’t jump out at you, but a version

00:42:52.679 –> 00:42:55.440
or a cover was in Screamed, The Frighteners,

00:42:55.519 –> 00:42:58.519
it was in Zombieland, it was in X, it was in

00:42:58.519 –> 00:43:02.079
Night of the Reaper. But it was also on the made

00:43:02.079 –> 00:43:05.099
for TV series, The Stand that Mick Garris did

00:43:05.099 –> 00:43:08.219
of the Stephen King novel. And it’s such a great

00:43:08.219 –> 00:43:10.000
way to open it because it’s just showing you

00:43:10.000 –> 00:43:12.159
all these dead bodies and this base, you know,

00:43:12.199 –> 00:43:16.119
in the cafeteria and the lounge, you know, it’s

00:43:16.119 –> 00:43:19.360
just these panning shots of this. And, you know,

00:43:19.440 –> 00:43:22.059
that really jumped out at me when I saw that.

00:43:22.679 –> 00:43:25.820
And it’s also the song that made Stephen King

00:43:25.820 –> 00:43:27.539
write the movie. He was on a writer’s block.

00:43:27.579 –> 00:43:29.780
So I thought that was just kind of interesting.

00:43:30.500 –> 00:43:32.860
So Christopher, you just watched Fright Night.

00:43:33.019 –> 00:43:35.460
and you you’d kind of touched on that soundtrack

00:43:35.460 –> 00:43:38.960
and so that’s one of the bigger ones like Jay

00:43:38.960 –> 00:43:42.639
Geil’s band had written the theme song Fright

00:43:42.639 –> 00:43:45.340
Night specifically for that movie. Oh yeah yeah

00:43:45.340 –> 00:43:48.579
I didn’t notice since this was on my mind you

00:43:48.579 –> 00:43:51.260
know how many needle drops and stuff were in

00:43:51.260 –> 00:43:55.159
the in the film that you know were integrated

00:43:55.159 –> 00:43:58.199
in a way that like was really interesting and

00:43:58.199 –> 00:44:01.440
satisfying. Yeah, it’s it’s got a cool cool soundtrack

00:44:01.440 –> 00:44:04.219
for sure And I mean you’re seeing that with repo

00:44:04.219 –> 00:44:07.000
man, which a lot of LA punk bands e -pop wrote

00:44:07.000 –> 00:44:11.500
the theme song for that You’re seeing it in lost

00:44:11.500 –> 00:44:14.719
boys, which I was told I mean I was too young

00:44:14.719 –> 00:44:16.719
to realize this I guess they’re the soundtrack

00:44:16.719 –> 00:44:18.780
when they put that out. It was like twilight

00:44:18.780 –> 00:44:22.480
level, you know promotion for it and it music

00:44:22.480 –> 00:44:25.300
stores everywhere you’re seeing that and Lost

00:44:25.300 –> 00:44:28.309
boys actually is is one of my favorite soundtracks

00:44:28.309 –> 00:44:32.309
to this day. It’s hard for me to say what I think

00:44:32.309 –> 00:44:34.449
is the best soundtrack. Do you have a favorite

00:44:34.449 –> 00:44:36.369
one, Christopher? I don’t know if you call this

00:44:36.369 –> 00:44:38.690
horror. I think it kind of is, but I really love

00:44:38.690 –> 00:44:40.989
the Crow soundtrack. A lot of that has to do

00:44:40.989 –> 00:44:43.969
with my age at the time the movie came out and

00:44:43.969 –> 00:44:47.289
my love for the movie and also the kind of music

00:44:47.289 –> 00:44:48.889
I was listening to at the time. It just kind

00:44:48.889 –> 00:44:50.809
of like ticked all the boxes, but I think it

00:44:50.809 –> 00:44:53.630
suits the movie really well. And also it, I think

00:44:53.630 –> 00:44:55.289
there’s no doubt that I had like a really big

00:44:55.289 –> 00:44:58.739
cultural influence. Oh, absolutely. I mean, that

00:44:58.739 –> 00:45:03.820
was like peak of alternative music, 1994. And

00:45:03.820 –> 00:45:05.719
I mean, what’s interesting in the comic book,

00:45:05.739 –> 00:45:08.000
like I was reading about that because I figured

00:45:08.000 –> 00:45:09.860
we’d be talking about the Crow soundtrack is

00:45:09.860 –> 00:45:12.920
like, I guess when The Cure was asked to do a

00:45:12.920 –> 00:45:16.079
song, Robert Smith was expecting to do Hanging

00:45:16.079 –> 00:45:19.019
Garden. He was a fan of the comic because they

00:45:19.019 –> 00:45:20.920
wrote, I guess the lyrics of Hanging Garden were

00:45:20.920 –> 00:45:22.440
in it, but he was like, no, we’re going to write

00:45:22.440 –> 00:45:25.579
our own song. So him and the drummer recorded

00:45:25.579 –> 00:45:28.610
is just the two of them. Wrote burn and then

00:45:28.610 –> 00:45:30.469
that was the last thing that drummer ever did

00:45:30.469 –> 00:45:33.550
with a cure. I thought that was kind of interesting

00:45:33.550 –> 00:45:38.250
Apparently Peter hook from Joy Division was asked

00:45:38.250 –> 00:45:43.829
to do I think level terrace apart and he He didn’t

00:45:43.829 –> 00:45:46.289
or that then maybe it was gonna be like dead

00:45:46.289 –> 00:45:48.650
souls and it didn’t work out So that’s where

00:45:48.650 –> 00:45:50.530
nine -inch nails came in to do it and I think

00:45:50.530 –> 00:45:53.769
Trent Reznor was a huge part of Getting all the

00:45:53.769 –> 00:45:57.739
bands for the soundtrack Something that’s kind

00:45:57.739 –> 00:46:01.119
of funny to me is Pantera’s on it covering poison

00:46:01.119 –> 00:46:06.039
idea the song the badge and The poison idea song

00:46:06.039 –> 00:46:08.480
as well has like a sample before it that says

00:46:08.480 –> 00:46:11.139
suck on this and it’s Robert De Niro from taxi

00:46:11.139 –> 00:46:15.119
driver and Pantera put that Before their song

00:46:15.119 –> 00:46:17.320
and that’s also on the fucking crow sound track.

00:46:17.360 –> 00:46:20.260
So you have like I don’t know how the licensee

00:46:20.260 –> 00:46:23.380
works for it, but it’s probably the only Soundtrack

00:46:23.380 –> 00:46:27.059
that has a sample from another movie in it And

00:46:27.059 –> 00:46:30.679
for all you hardcore kids out there, the Rage

00:46:30.679 –> 00:46:33.760
Against The Machining song, Darkness, was originally

00:46:33.760 –> 00:46:37.599
an Inside Out cover, which is Zach’s pre -hardcore

00:46:37.599 –> 00:46:39.940
band on Revelation Records. It’s called The Darkness

00:46:39.940 –> 00:46:41.579
Agreed, and if you’re on YouTube, you can hear

00:46:41.579 –> 00:46:43.820
the original iteration. I think they only played

00:46:43.820 –> 00:46:45.739
it live, but I thought that was kind of wild.

00:46:47.119 –> 00:46:50.400
But yeah, The Crow had such a wild soundtrack

00:46:50.400 –> 00:46:55.039
that it was huge. You know, it’s probably…

00:46:54.840 –> 00:46:59.139
one of the biggest soundtracks of the 90s. What

00:46:59.139 –> 00:47:01.440
I really liked from the 80s also is the Return

00:47:01.440 –> 00:47:03.760
of the Living Dead soundtrack, which is a classic

00:47:03.760 –> 00:47:06.019
I think for people from the punk rock world at

00:47:06.019 –> 00:47:09.920
least. Yeah, it’s in a fun story about that is

00:47:09.920 –> 00:47:12.519
apparently Dan O ‘Bannon who was the director

00:47:12.519 –> 00:47:16.739
did not want a fucking punk soundtrack and he

00:47:16.739 –> 00:47:19.460
had to be convinced otherwise and whoever the

00:47:19.460 –> 00:47:21.900
producers were did good on that because it kind

00:47:21.900 –> 00:47:25.530
of gave it some credibility I think. Like if

00:47:25.530 –> 00:47:27.389
I if you watch lost boys, there’s a lot of punk

00:47:27.389 –> 00:47:29.570
rockers on the boardwalk And then there’s a scene

00:47:29.570 –> 00:47:31.570
where they’re circle pitting around a fire to

00:47:31.570 –> 00:47:33.349
Aerosmith and you’re like, no, no, no, that’s

00:47:33.349 –> 00:47:37.710
not Yeah, it’s they would be doing that to blast

00:47:37.710 –> 00:47:40.090
or something but um, the interesting thing about

00:47:40.090 –> 00:47:41.929
the returning living dead soundtrack is you have

00:47:41.929 –> 00:47:47.170
the rocky Erickson you the cramps TSA well, it’s

00:47:47.170 –> 00:47:51.610
my favorite TSA whole song 45 graves party time

00:47:51.610 –> 00:47:55.059
which I have kind of a funny story about is That

00:47:55.059 –> 00:47:57.440
is not the original version of it. The original

00:47:57.440 –> 00:47:59.320
version is much darker and much more screwed

00:47:59.320 –> 00:48:02.400
up. So that’s called the zombie version. And

00:48:02.400 –> 00:48:04.659
Christopher, you may have been with me at this

00:48:04.659 –> 00:48:07.420
because I remember you came to Sticky Rice Karaoke

00:48:07.420 –> 00:48:12.840
in DC years and years ago. And you did, I don’t

00:48:12.840 –> 00:48:14.539
know if it was a Toby Key song. Does that sound

00:48:14.539 –> 00:48:16.619
familiar to you? Oh yeah, that’s my go -to. It’s

00:48:16.619 –> 00:48:19.739
one of my go -to’s, yeah. Okay, so yeah, so I

00:48:19.739 –> 00:48:22.980
did get that right. They had party time by 45

00:48:22.980 –> 00:48:24.679
Graves, so I was like, sweet, I’m gonna get up

00:48:24.679 –> 00:48:27.039
there and do this. Little did I know, it was

00:48:27.039 –> 00:48:29.179
not the Return of the Living Dead version, so

00:48:29.179 –> 00:48:32.880
it has this crazy, like, preamble that’s just

00:48:32.880 –> 00:48:35.820
like, threw me off, and the lyrics are all disturbing.

00:48:36.760 –> 00:48:39.360
Like, just not the curveball you want when you

00:48:39.360 –> 00:48:44.360
do karaoke. But, um. I got a great karaoke story

00:48:44.360 –> 00:48:46.300
just like that, which you also were present for,

00:48:46.360 –> 00:48:49.119
I believe, but I won’t, I won’t, uh. Belabor

00:48:49.119 –> 00:48:51.019
this episode with that because it’s not really

00:48:51.019 –> 00:48:54.699
related, but but that certainly is It’s actually

00:48:54.699 –> 00:48:56.300
one of my worst nightmares at this point based

00:48:56.300 –> 00:49:00.019
because of that early experience in life What

00:49:00.019 –> 00:49:03.260
kid to karaoke some getting a car just like you

00:49:03.260 –> 00:49:05.659
know getting up and bombing at karaoke Because

00:49:05.659 –> 00:49:07.780
you were prepared like the song versions different

00:49:07.780 –> 00:49:10.380
that like yeah, you know It’s funny because I

00:49:10.380 –> 00:49:12.480
knew that they had this other version like the

00:49:12.480 –> 00:49:14.079
original version of but I’m like that’s not gonna

00:49:14.079 –> 00:49:17.320
be a karaoke because that’s such a deep cut like

00:49:17.799 –> 00:49:22.119
But yeah, Rude Awakening. So yeah, I mean, do

00:49:22.119 –> 00:49:25.260
you, because there’s so many movies, can you

00:49:25.260 –> 00:49:28.300
think of a best use of a song in a horror movie?

00:49:29.380 –> 00:49:35.539
Oh yeah. Yeah, so, and you mean like, how they

00:49:35.539 –> 00:49:38.880
edited it into the actual film? Yeah, and how

00:49:38.880 –> 00:49:41.079
it suits it, because I think that could be such

00:49:41.079 –> 00:49:43.340
an interesting thing to consider. I have a few

00:49:43.340 –> 00:49:45.119
different ones I can touch on. I do too, I actually,

00:49:45.199 –> 00:49:47.800
this was like one of… uh the categories that

00:49:47.800 –> 00:49:50.900
I wasn’t sure I would uh have a lot to say on

00:49:50.900 –> 00:49:52.840
but actually I ended up having like the most

00:49:52.840 –> 00:49:55.340
of the say on so uh but yeah I have a bunch I

00:49:55.340 –> 00:49:56.619
don’t have to go I don’t have to say all of them

00:49:56.619 –> 00:49:59.780
but um the one that you mentioned earlier the

00:49:59.780 –> 00:50:02.199
Stranger Things Kate Bush one is like has to

00:50:02.199 –> 00:50:05.219
be mentioned just because it’s like uh iconic

00:50:05.219 –> 00:50:09.159
I guess um you know currently iconic but I really

00:50:09.159 –> 00:50:12.960
liked the use of hurdy -gurdy man in zodiac oh

00:50:12.960 –> 00:50:16.369
yeah that’s a good one that montage of like you

00:50:16.369 –> 00:50:18.929
know, a few different killings and stuff. It’s

00:50:18.929 –> 00:50:21.510
really well done, perfect tone, you know, set

00:50:21.510 –> 00:50:24.590
by it. Let’s go back and forth. You got one?

00:50:25.210 –> 00:50:29.630
So this one is kind of like fun, but what’s interesting

00:50:29.630 –> 00:50:32.289
about it to me is I think the song is actually

00:50:32.289 –> 00:50:35.469
scary. So it plays really well. It’s A Night

00:50:35.469 –> 00:50:38.369
of the Demons. Angela has just gotten possessed

00:50:38.369 –> 00:50:41.389
by a demon. You don’t quite know that, and you

00:50:41.389 –> 00:50:43.050
know, they’re in this abandoned haunted house

00:50:43.050 –> 00:50:45.780
for Halloween. and it’s just her and this guy’s

00:50:45.780 –> 00:50:49.159
stooge and she starts dancing and she’s wearing

00:50:49.159 –> 00:50:52.400
like a a wedding dress but it’s gothic so it’s

00:50:52.400 –> 00:50:55.179
like black and she’s got a black tiara she starts

00:50:55.179 –> 00:51:00.199
dancing to stigmata martyr by bauhaus and the

00:51:00.199 –> 00:51:02.539
age i saw it i had never heard anything like

00:51:02.539 –> 00:51:06.659
that but it’s a creepy like the riffs are just

00:51:06.659 –> 00:51:10.079
kind of jarring and it’s very i love the song

00:51:10.079 –> 00:51:13.659
but it is creepy as fuck And she’s dancing and

00:51:13.659 –> 00:51:16.659
then she turns into a demon and, you know, spoiler,

00:51:16.760 –> 00:51:18.500
bites his tongue out when he thinks she’s going

00:51:18.500 –> 00:51:20.900
to kiss him. But it’s like, yeah, you see that

00:51:20.900 –> 00:51:26.099
and it’s just perfect. It’s really wild. So I

00:51:26.099 –> 00:51:28.679
like that because it’s a scary song playing into

00:51:28.679 –> 00:51:31.719
a scary moment. I also really liked the song

00:51:31.719 –> 00:51:36.239
in terms of the use of a song in a movie. The

00:51:36.239 –> 00:51:39.679
cabin in the woods had that kind of moment. This

00:51:39.679 –> 00:51:41.719
might be a spoiler if you haven’t seen Cabin

00:51:41.719 –> 00:51:44.139
of the Woods. If you haven’t, you should go see

00:51:44.139 –> 00:51:48.099
it and mute this part for a minute. But they

00:51:48.099 –> 00:51:52.159
play, there’s a woman getting killed and it cuts,

00:51:52.340 –> 00:51:54.340
kind of goes through a security camera and then

00:51:54.340 –> 00:51:58.599
you see backstage or behind the scenes of the

00:51:58.599 –> 00:52:01.500
people orchestrating all of the monsters and

00:52:01.500 –> 00:52:04.159
they’re all at REO Speedwagon, Roll with the

00:52:04.159 –> 00:52:06.139
Changes is playing and they’re all sipping on

00:52:06.139 –> 00:52:08.039
drinks and stuff while this brutal murder is

00:52:08.039 –> 00:52:10.460
taking place. It’s pretty genius. I remember

00:52:10.460 –> 00:52:13.440
the scene. I remember the use of that Nine Inch

00:52:13.440 –> 00:52:19.159
Nails song as soon as it ends. Off broken. The

00:52:19.159 –> 00:52:22.079
first band I ever saw live was the Jesus and

00:52:22.079 –> 00:52:24.940
Mary Chain in 1992 when I was a kid. And the

00:52:24.940 –> 00:52:29.079
reason I went and saw them is I saw Pet Sematary

00:52:29.079 –> 00:52:32.639
2 and the song Reverence by them is used in that

00:52:32.639 –> 00:52:37.320
in a very crazy scene where Gus who’s a zombie

00:52:37.320 –> 00:52:41.019
is driving to kill his wife and step -kid in

00:52:41.019 –> 00:52:43.719
the song reverence has like really dark lyrics

00:52:43.719 –> 00:52:45.699
I want to die just like Jesus Christ I want to

00:52:45.699 –> 00:52:48.360
die on a like 12 year old me is like there’s

00:52:48.360 –> 00:52:51.480
the greatest thing ever and so I went and saw

00:52:51.480 –> 00:52:54.699
them because of that movie cool Tad Payton his

00:52:54.699 –> 00:52:57.460
mom took us our friend skip who sadly passed

00:52:57.460 –> 00:53:00.159
away went and there was someone there who was

00:53:00.159 –> 00:53:02.760
like teasing us because we Like the song Pet

00:53:02.760 –> 00:53:05.440
Sematary 2, but Pet Sematary 2 has a cool soundtrack.

00:53:06.119 –> 00:53:08.619
Um, and so that was like very pivotal for me.

00:53:08.659 –> 00:53:10.599
Another one is when I saw Nightmare on Street

00:53:10.599 –> 00:53:14.539
4. And Taffod and I have talked about this. Uh,

00:53:14.619 –> 00:53:16.780
there is the montage where Rick is, has a nunchucks

00:53:16.780 –> 00:53:20.599
and anything, anything by Drama Rama plays. And

00:53:20.599 –> 00:53:23.340
I remember having that on video in Maine out

00:53:23.340 –> 00:53:25.239
in the sticks. I’m like, what fucking song is

00:53:25.239 –> 00:53:27.199
this? And I go to the, the end where you can

00:53:27.199 –> 00:53:29.639
see what the soundtrack, but I tried to pause

00:53:29.639 –> 00:53:32.119
it and when you pause, the white noise of it

00:53:32.119 –> 00:53:35.219
just blurred. So I didn’t know who it was. I

00:53:35.219 –> 00:53:37.780
was like, this is the coolest song ever. Um,

00:53:38.059 –> 00:53:41.000
so like moments like that in movies, you know,

00:53:41.079 –> 00:53:44.579
that’s how I discovered some music. Yeah. I mean,

00:53:44.579 –> 00:53:47.119
honestly, I’m sure there has been some. I have

00:53:47.119 –> 00:53:49.739
that phenomenon a lot more with skate movies,

00:53:49.840 –> 00:53:52.099
skate videos, skate videos. That makes sense.

00:53:52.280 –> 00:53:55.239
Yeah. But you know, I’ve certainly, I think I’m

00:53:55.239 –> 00:53:57.179
the kind of person, particularly when I was younger

00:53:57.179 –> 00:53:59.960
that just got caught So caught up in this story.

00:54:00.599 –> 00:54:05.039
I like, uh, maybe I didn’t, you know, actually

00:54:05.039 –> 00:54:08.280
I, I do have one that I can remember vividly

00:54:08.280 –> 00:54:10.579
tracking down the artists. And what’s interesting

00:54:10.579 –> 00:54:13.019
is they’re actually on my list of, um, something

00:54:13.019 –> 00:54:16.300
I wanted to mention today. Uh, and that is, uh,

00:54:16.380 –> 00:54:19.619
Tangerine Dream, the legend soundtrack love by

00:54:19.619 –> 00:54:23.280
the sun. I mean, you know, at the age that I

00:54:23.280 –> 00:54:25.940
found that, which I was probably like, you know,

00:54:26.019 –> 00:54:28.039
12 or something like that. Honestly, I was into

00:54:28.039 –> 00:54:30.559
like musical soundtracks and like whatever was

00:54:30.559 –> 00:54:32.599
on the radio because I was so young. Like, I

00:54:32.599 –> 00:54:36.480
mean, we all were undeveloped into like our own

00:54:36.480 –> 00:54:39.719
tastes at that point. But to this day, that song

00:54:39.719 –> 00:54:43.840
is still a banger. I love it. But I looked it

00:54:43.840 –> 00:54:45.500
up. I figured out where it was. I think I even

00:54:45.500 –> 00:54:49.659
went and bought a tape. So, yeah. Damn. The Brian

00:54:49.659 –> 00:54:51.800
Ferry song on that, Is Your Love Strong Enough

00:54:51.800 –> 00:54:54.460
is fantastic. Yeah. It’s a great soundtrack.

00:54:55.780 –> 00:55:00.059
Mean a lot of them are it’s a it’s a Great and

00:55:00.059 –> 00:55:02.360
it’s it’s cool too when you have soundtracks

00:55:02.360 –> 00:55:05.659
where songs are written specifically for movies

00:55:05.659 –> 00:55:08.519
Oh, yeah, man. I could I had just another thing

00:55:08.519 –> 00:55:12.320
I had like a number of You know things written

00:55:12.320 –> 00:55:15.139
down that I could talk about But I think one

00:55:15.139 –> 00:55:18.739
that really sticks out to me is Well, I mentioned

00:55:18.739 –> 00:55:20.699
tangerine dream. So that was a perfect segue

00:55:20.699 –> 00:55:23.900
into this but I also really liked cry little

00:55:23.900 –> 00:55:28.780
sister Oh, yeah Which Gerard McMahon wrote for

00:55:28.780 –> 00:55:30.639
the Lost Boys. I’m sure that was probably on

00:55:30.639 –> 00:55:33.659
your list too. That’s yeah that that opening

00:55:33.659 –> 00:55:36.159
with that song just like transport transported

00:55:36.159 –> 00:55:38.900
me right into the movie I was obsessed with that

00:55:38.900 –> 00:55:41.760
song still am. I’ve done that at karaoke too

00:55:41.760 –> 00:55:45.519
Because yeah, you see that how can you not? That

00:55:45.519 –> 00:55:48.920
is such that it fits the movie so so well the

00:55:48.920 –> 00:55:52.139
tone and just the vibe of it Never land, you

00:55:52.139 –> 00:55:55.610
know Peter Pan and stuff There’s like it became

00:55:55.610 –> 00:55:58.730
like a banger like like you said that plays it

00:55:58.730 –> 00:56:02.630
like 80s nights and whatever like it’s it’s certainly

00:56:02.630 –> 00:56:05.130
transcended the movie at this point Right like

00:56:05.130 –> 00:56:07.250
it’s it’s even hard for me to think of like what

00:56:07.250 –> 00:56:09.269
the score of Lost Boys is because I felt like

00:56:09.269 –> 00:56:12.130
they always came back to that it almost like

00:56:12.130 –> 00:56:14.869
Substituted for that but yeah that and the the

00:56:14.869 –> 00:56:16.250
sax man on the beach is the other thing that

00:56:16.250 –> 00:56:19.130
always sticks in my mind so yeah, Timmy Capella

00:56:19.130 –> 00:56:22.630
and I met him at a Horror convention. I was like

00:56:22.630 –> 00:56:25.769
I have to meet him, you know um, and he’s like

00:56:25.769 –> 00:56:28.110
the nicest dude ever that i’ve ever met at one

00:56:28.110 –> 00:56:31.469
of those so excited to talk to like fans and

00:56:31.469 –> 00:56:33.570
Going into lost boys soundtrack. Uh, this is

00:56:33.570 –> 00:56:37.409
very fascinating The song he does, uh, I still

00:56:37.409 –> 00:56:39.730
believe is by a band called the call. He’s a

00:56:39.730 –> 00:56:42.809
christian rock band faith And I don’t I think

00:56:42.809 –> 00:56:46.369
they wouldn’t give joel schumacher the song so

00:56:46.369 –> 00:56:49.210
joel schumacher was like hey timmy and timmy

00:56:49.210 –> 00:56:52.400
capella was uh, tina turner sax player if you

00:56:52.400 –> 00:56:55.539
didn’t know that um he asked timmy capello to

00:56:55.539 –> 00:56:57.800
do the song he’s like okay but there’s no sax

00:56:57.800 –> 00:56:59.099
part he’s like all right yeah you gotta write

00:56:59.099 –> 00:57:02.420
the sax part so he had to had to add that which

00:57:02.420 –> 00:57:04.539
i think adds something because saxophones were

00:57:04.539 –> 00:57:06.940
very 80s like it’s really interesting but i this

00:57:06.940 –> 00:57:09.860
is where i what i really want to know though

00:57:09.860 –> 00:57:12.739
is why him like why did you pick a sax player

00:57:12.739 –> 00:57:15.389
of all the people Guess he was like friends of

00:57:15.389 –> 00:57:17.550
him or maybe he’s a fan of his physique because

00:57:17.550 –> 00:57:20.989
he’s like greased up all muscles, you know spandex

00:57:20.989 –> 00:57:23.670
I mean it like it’s that’s probably has a lot

00:57:23.670 –> 00:57:25.829
to do with it, but I just started like funny

00:57:25.829 –> 00:57:27.269
It’s like you could probably find a guitar player

00:57:27.269 –> 00:57:30.030
like that or like a singer or something. I guess

00:57:30.030 –> 00:57:32.769
he was interesting Yeah, no, I mean, but yeah,

00:57:32.769 –> 00:57:35.989
it’s probably like a lot of reasons And it’s

00:57:35.989 –> 00:57:38.610
I think Santa Cruz also wouldn’t let lost boys

00:57:38.610 –> 00:57:41.050
use the name Santa Cruz. That’s why it’s called

00:57:41.050 –> 00:57:43.710
Santa Carla But that’s kind of a fun thing for

00:57:43.710 –> 00:57:45.449
that soundtrack. I mean the whole soundtrack’s

00:57:45.449 –> 00:57:47.130
cool. You have Echo and the Bunny Man doing the

00:57:47.130 –> 00:57:49.010
doors. You have… One Echo and the Bunny Man.

00:57:49.309 –> 00:57:51.929
The singer Foreigner who I never really got into

00:57:51.929 –> 00:57:54.170
Foreigner but Lost in the Shadows is also a great

00:57:54.170 –> 00:57:58.429
song. You know there’s the oddly the the only

00:57:58.429 –> 00:58:00.690
song off that that charted was the in excess

00:58:00.690 –> 00:58:03.389
song that’s escaping my mind that was in it and

00:58:03.389 –> 00:58:06.969
very very minor. Interesting. But yeah it was

00:58:06.969 –> 00:58:09.750
Lost Boys was yeah made for the MTV generation

00:58:09.750 –> 00:58:13.010
so it it makes sense it had such a a big one

00:58:13.010 –> 00:58:16.610
um if if you talk about songs that were like

00:58:16.610 –> 00:58:19.530
specifically made for movies right pet cemetery

00:58:19.530 –> 00:58:22.449
by the ramones that was also when i had listed

00:58:22.449 –> 00:58:24.969
but i figured you were taff and we’re gonna mention

00:58:24.969 –> 00:58:27.849
it so i mean how can you know it’s it’s my favorite

00:58:27.849 –> 00:58:30.389
ramone song i know everyone like punk rockers

00:58:30.389 –> 00:58:32.190
love the first stuff but i’m like now that song

00:58:32.190 –> 00:58:35.610
is just the hook it’s got a sadness to it it’s

00:58:35.610 –> 00:58:38.010
the legend behind that’s pretty wild where like

00:58:38.010 –> 00:58:40.150
stephen king invited the ramones to his house

00:58:40.750 –> 00:58:43.570
Didi picks up at cemetery leaves for an hour

00:58:43.570 –> 00:58:45.489
comes back. It’s like I got the song and lyrics

00:58:45.489 –> 00:58:48.489
Like that’s that’s fucking and it’s that song

00:58:48.489 –> 00:58:51.090
and you know It’s it’s perfect for the movie

00:58:51.090 –> 00:58:52.670
and it’s it’s interesting because if you ever

00:58:52.670 –> 00:58:54.489
think like how did you get into punk rock? I’m

00:58:54.489 –> 00:58:56.949
like, okay I guess technically would have been

00:58:56.949 –> 00:58:59.650
loving that song or killer clowns from outer

00:58:59.650 –> 00:59:01.829
space. It’s the dickies. It’s doing the themes

00:59:01.829 –> 00:59:04.710
You know well before I know what that kind of

00:59:04.710 –> 00:59:09.630
music is So it’s yeah, it’s it’s cool when movies

00:59:10.000 –> 00:59:13.000
would have that. I mean, I can’t think of…

00:59:13.000 –> 00:59:15.460
Maybe the Smile 2 soundtrack probably had that

00:59:15.460 –> 00:59:19.739
artist write songs for it. Yeah, I got a fun

00:59:19.739 –> 00:59:23.039
little bonus one to talk about in terms of songs

00:59:23.039 –> 00:59:26.039
written for movies. Go for it. Which is Total

00:59:26.039 –> 00:59:29.300
Eclipse of the Heart. Ah, okay. That was written

00:59:29.300 –> 00:59:32.559
for a movie. It was. It was originally intended

00:59:32.559 –> 00:59:37.480
to be… It was actually a stage musical, which

00:59:37.480 –> 00:59:40.449
so it’s not really a movie, but But it was for

00:59:40.449 –> 00:59:44.250
Nosferatu version of Nosferatu. Really? Yeah.

00:59:44.909 –> 00:59:47.590
And it didn’t end up obviously being used in

00:59:47.590 –> 00:59:50.070
that. And that’s part of why it was so long.

00:59:50.349 –> 00:59:52.210
And I was like, there’s two versions. There’s

00:59:52.210 –> 00:59:54.550
the radio edit and the original edit. The original

00:59:54.550 –> 00:59:57.349
edit is like seven minutes long. And so they

00:59:57.349 –> 00:59:59.130
wrote the radio edit, but it turns out everybody

00:59:59.130 –> 01:00:00.789
loved the song so much they would always just

01:00:00.789 –> 01:00:04.969
play the full version. That’s wild. It’s also,

01:00:05.150 –> 01:00:09.199
it was used in Urban Legend. And it was used

01:00:09.199 –> 01:00:11.800
in Stranger’s Prey at night at one of the most

01:00:11.800 –> 01:00:14.900
cinematic, it’s a death sequence in a pool that’s

01:00:14.900 –> 01:00:20.260
lit up at night. Very cool scene. Stranger’s

01:00:20.260 –> 01:00:24.440
2 has another scene with air supply making love

01:00:24.440 –> 01:00:26.039
out of nothing at all that’s great where this

01:00:26.039 –> 01:00:28.099
girl’s like crawling across a bridge and this

01:00:28.099 –> 01:00:30.980
burning truck is behind her slowly gaining on

01:00:30.980 –> 01:00:33.960
her. Yeah, it had some really great soundtrack

01:00:33.960 –> 01:00:37.929
moments. They translated really well. Yeah, but

01:00:37.929 –> 01:00:39.489
if you listen to the some of the lyrics and total

01:00:39.489 –> 01:00:41.389
clips of the heart like turn around bright eyes,

01:00:41.409 –> 01:00:46.730
that’s like You know kind of meant to It’s referring

01:00:46.730 –> 01:00:48.570
to the moment like right before getting bit when

01:00:48.570 –> 01:00:50.789
like the vampires, you know stuff like that.

01:00:51.269 –> 01:00:53.369
So I Thought that was just like a little like

01:00:53.369 –> 01:00:55.989
cool story I found while digging into this stuff

01:00:55.989 –> 01:00:58.150
a little bit more. No, it’s certain certainly

01:00:58.150 –> 01:01:02.599
is I did not I had no idea, but I’m glad I know.

01:01:02.699 –> 01:01:06.480
Good job. That’s a very fun fact. One movie where

01:01:06.480 –> 01:01:08.639
every song was written for the soundtrack that

01:01:08.639 –> 01:01:10.380
I feel like you kind of have to talk about, it’s

01:01:10.380 –> 01:01:14.400
more horror -adjacent in the 90s, and it was

01:01:14.400 –> 01:01:16.940
even before The Crow, it was before National

01:01:16.940 –> 01:01:20.199
Born Killers, but it made a huge splash, was

01:01:20.199 –> 01:01:22.800
Judgment Night. You know, that’s with Emilio

01:01:22.800 –> 01:01:27.780
Estevez and Jeremy Pivens in it. Keewa Gooden

01:01:27.780 –> 01:01:30.840
Jr. and Dennis Leary and Stephen Dorff and they’re

01:01:30.840 –> 01:01:33.780
trying to go to a boxing match and they try to

01:01:33.780 –> 01:01:36.460
take a shortcut through the ghetto of Chicago

01:01:36.460 –> 01:01:38.300
and break down and then it’s like they’re fighting

01:01:38.300 –> 01:01:42.619
for their lives. And the soundtrack is not my

01:01:42.619 –> 01:01:44.699
favorite kind of music, but the soundtrack rules.

01:01:45.199 –> 01:01:47.860
They decided we’re going to get all the alternative

01:01:47.860 –> 01:01:51.000
acts we want and mix it with all the hip -hop

01:01:51.000 –> 01:01:55.340
groups. So you have Biohazard and Onyx doing

01:01:55.340 –> 01:01:58.559
Judgment Night, you have Del the Funky Homo Sapien,

01:01:59.880 –> 01:02:03.980
and Dinosaur Jr. doing Missing Link, Teenage

01:02:03.980 –> 01:02:09.039
Fan Club with De La Soul, Slayer and Ice -T doing

01:02:09.039 –> 01:02:11.760
an Exploited medley of three of their songs for

01:02:11.760 –> 01:02:15.719
War. That’s cool. It’s a really cool soundtrack,

01:02:16.480 –> 01:02:19.800
but it’s good I think because it’s like you have

01:02:19.800 –> 01:02:22.519
the best doing one side of music and the best

01:02:22.519 –> 01:02:25.099
from another and combining it rather than like

01:02:25.099 –> 01:02:27.320
rap rock which is usually like oh god here we

01:02:27.320 –> 01:02:29.900
go you know yeah yeah there’s so many great songs

01:02:29.900 –> 01:02:32.440
that i i’ve i’ve learned that were written for

01:02:32.440 –> 01:02:33.800
horror movies i a lot of them i didn’t even know

01:02:33.800 –> 01:02:35.360
were written for horror movies you know there’s

01:02:35.360 –> 01:02:38.659
like a bunch i didn’t even mention like uh acdc

01:02:38.659 –> 01:02:41.900
maximum overdrive and motorhead hellraiser stuff

01:02:41.900 –> 01:02:45.659
like that well so the acdc song he made who was

01:02:45.659 –> 01:02:47.679
written for maximum overdrive like steven king

01:02:48.360 –> 01:02:50.820
influence pop culture and music as well. We wouldn’t

01:02:50.820 –> 01:02:53.900
have Pet Sematary, the song, or Who Made Who,

01:02:53.980 –> 01:02:56.659
which are both great songs. Yeah, that’s just

01:02:56.659 –> 01:02:59.619
classic, you know, use of it in the film, too.

01:03:00.059 –> 01:03:02.159
So the Hellraiser, that’s interesting, because

01:03:02.159 –> 01:03:04.699
Hellraiser 3, Hell on Earth, I was going to mention

01:03:04.699 –> 01:03:07.179
this, too. It’s kind of like the Headbangers

01:03:07.179 –> 01:03:11.420
ball of Hellraiser movies. It has actually the

01:03:11.420 –> 01:03:15.960
dude from John Feldman’s old band, like, love

01:03:15.960 –> 01:03:19.340
something. Sonic Love Pigs, I’m screwing it up.

01:03:19.579 –> 01:03:21.219
They were on that which kind of blew me away.

01:03:22.079 –> 01:03:24.719
But the Hellraiser song, Hellraiser that Motorhead

01:03:24.719 –> 01:03:27.059
does that you’re talking about was an Ozzy song

01:03:27.059 –> 01:03:30.559
on No More Tears that Lemmy covered that became

01:03:30.559 –> 01:03:34.039
the Hellraiser song. That’s a cool video too.

01:03:34.480 –> 01:03:36.820
It’s like all these songs become Halloween playlists

01:03:36.820 –> 01:03:42.239
for me. A lot of them. so yeah that was that

01:03:42.239 –> 01:03:45.099
was a thing in the 80s and 90s towards like the

01:03:45.099 –> 01:03:47.500
2000s you start getting into the more new metal

01:03:47.500 –> 01:03:51.519
stuff which is not my jam but you Christopher

01:03:51.519 –> 01:03:53.280
you would pose this and we could answer this

01:03:53.280 –> 01:03:57.059
like like most hated song in a horror movie soundtrack

01:03:57.059 –> 01:04:00.099
god yeah you know what’s funny is um i did suggest

01:04:00.099 –> 01:04:03.260
like this category and you know i put a lot of

01:04:03.260 –> 01:04:05.260
thought into it and i realized that i like i

01:04:06.320 –> 01:04:09.760
I don’t hate, I couldn’t pick just one, but what

01:04:09.760 –> 01:04:15.360
I really hate is more of a genre or a genre of

01:04:15.360 –> 01:04:18.420
uses, which is like anytime that you use like

01:04:18.420 –> 01:04:21.599
a pop song that just feels very discordant with

01:04:21.599 –> 01:04:24.619
what’s happening on screen and sometimes you

01:04:24.619 –> 01:04:29.000
can do that and it works really well because

01:04:29.000 –> 01:04:33.500
it’s like the juxtaposition of the two elevates

01:04:33.500 –> 01:04:36.409
the scene. Right. There’s a lot of times where

01:04:36.409 –> 01:04:38.250
I feel like they’re like, hey, we just need a

01:04:38.250 –> 01:04:41.789
pop song. And they like kind of shoehorn it in

01:04:41.789 –> 01:04:43.750
and it just kind of kills like whatever’s on

01:04:43.750 –> 01:04:45.590
screen and it just feels discordant. It doesn’t

01:04:45.590 –> 01:04:47.909
work, you know, and that happens a lot. I think

01:04:47.909 –> 01:04:49.789
with what you’re talking about with like new

01:04:49.789 –> 01:04:52.909
metal stuff, like a lot of, honestly, in general,

01:04:53.170 –> 01:04:58.289
I find rock music, uh, in many scenarios don’t

01:04:58.289 –> 01:05:01.510
work on screen. And horror is one of the genres

01:05:01.510 –> 01:05:04.679
where they work more often. but it has to be

01:05:04.679 –> 01:05:07.699
the right moment for it. Otherwise, it can be

01:05:07.699 –> 01:05:11.019
really jarring. I think part of it is when you

01:05:11.019 –> 01:05:13.559
have electric guitars and drums and things like

01:05:13.559 –> 01:05:17.820
that, it automatically, at least for me, puts

01:05:17.820 –> 01:05:21.199
me in a certain place, which is a contemporary,

01:05:22.760 –> 01:05:24.599
almost like you’re at a music club or something,

01:05:24.639 –> 01:05:29.159
which if you’re supposed to be scary or a period

01:05:29.159 –> 01:05:33.119
piece, I really hate electric guitars and period.

01:05:33.199 –> 01:05:36.699
Films yeah, no, I agree. That’s that just yeah,

01:05:36.820 –> 01:05:39.599
you can’t imagine slayer in game of thrones or

01:05:39.599 –> 01:05:42.079
something Yeah, so I mean I could have really

01:05:42.079 –> 01:05:45.559
picked one song or or narrow it down And I i’m

01:05:45.559 –> 01:05:47.300
just having a trouble thinking of moments to

01:05:47.300 –> 01:05:50.300
you be maybe because like I just don’t know Who

01:05:50.300 –> 01:05:51.960
the band is or the movie because I just like

01:05:51.960 –> 01:05:54.630
oh that was bad You know I I had to look this

01:05:54.630 –> 01:05:56.309
up too because I was like well Let me go through

01:05:56.309 –> 01:05:58.630
my list of songs that I hate and then they like

01:05:58.630 –> 01:06:00.570
none of them were in horror movies And so i’m

01:06:00.570 –> 01:06:02.469
like, well, I don’t like new metal But I don’t

01:06:02.469 –> 01:06:04.449
remember all these songs from queen of the damned

01:06:04.449 –> 01:06:08.050
or you know, whatever soundtracks But then I

01:06:08.050 –> 01:06:09.929
came across a song that I hate that was using

01:06:09.929 –> 01:06:13.090
a couple was used in dracula 2000 and it was

01:06:13.090 –> 01:06:16.130
using the dawn of the dead remake and that is

01:06:16.130 –> 01:06:20.429
Get down with the sickness by disturbed just

01:06:20.429 –> 01:06:23.949
obnoxious, uh I also do not like the singer.

01:06:23.949 –> 01:06:28.010
He signed bombs like so to hell with him. But

01:06:28.010 –> 01:06:30.130
yeah, the song was just obnoxious. It was like

01:06:30.130 –> 01:06:33.449
peak new metal in the 2000s. Some people probably

01:06:33.449 –> 01:06:35.949
love that song, but I was not one of them. As

01:06:35.949 –> 01:06:38.530
a note to filmmakers out there when you’re making

01:06:38.530 –> 01:06:41.630
these kind of choices, you know, think about

01:06:41.630 –> 01:06:45.090
how your film could or could not be timeless

01:06:45.090 –> 01:06:48.250
because of some of these choices. And so if you’re

01:06:48.250 –> 01:06:50.190
picking something like new metal, which like

01:06:50.190 –> 01:06:53.719
it’s always hard in the moment, to see so this

01:06:53.719 –> 01:06:56.260
isn’t an easy job but you know the moment you

01:06:56.260 –> 01:06:58.320
hear like a new medal in a song you’re like this

01:06:58.320 –> 01:07:01.440
is clearly early 2000s or whatever right but

01:07:01.440 –> 01:07:03.440
sometimes it works to your advantage though because

01:07:03.440 –> 01:07:05.739
when I when you watch an 80s horror movie and

01:07:05.739 –> 01:07:08.780
you hear like 80s music sometimes it just is

01:07:08.780 –> 01:07:12.739
like perfect you know but sometimes it’s you

01:07:12.739 –> 01:07:15.059
know kind of like what you’re saying last episode

01:07:15.059 –> 01:07:17.659
about the a24 look in terms of cinematography

01:07:17.659 –> 01:07:22.869
is like you know you can really ruin the evergreen

01:07:22.869 –> 01:07:27.630
life of your film by putting in music that’s

01:07:27.630 –> 01:07:30.010
like a one -hit wonder or like I mean not necessarily

01:07:30.010 –> 01:07:32.670
one -hit wonder but like you know art is only

01:07:32.670 –> 01:07:34.789
popular for a limited period of time it could

01:07:34.789 –> 01:07:39.710
really date it yeah I mean it’s only like the

01:07:39.710 –> 01:07:43.329
80s is also kind of like an explosion of new

01:07:43.329 –> 01:07:46.909
music right and new special effects and new this

01:07:46.909 –> 01:07:50.360
now that 2000s is kind of I mean the 90s or the

01:07:50.360 –> 01:07:53.840
80s hangover in 2000s is the 90s hangover, but

01:07:53.840 –> 01:07:58.900
it’s I felt like it was almost soulless to just

01:07:58.900 –> 01:08:01.440
shovel down new metal into all these soundtracks

01:08:01.440 –> 01:08:03.639
because it’s like probably record companies and

01:08:03.639 –> 01:08:05.480
what’s hot right now, you know, that’s what they’re

01:08:05.480 –> 01:08:08.599
doing. When you talk about economics, they want

01:08:08.599 –> 01:08:11.380
to tie in with someone who’s popular because,

01:08:11.679 –> 01:08:15.480
you know, you get the song trending. It also

01:08:15.480 –> 01:08:18.239
encourages people to go see the movie. And so

01:08:18.239 –> 01:08:20.300
there’s like real economic reasons that they

01:08:20.300 –> 01:08:23.560
try to do that sometimes. There are exceptions

01:08:23.560 –> 01:08:25.520
though, right? And this might be a good segue

01:08:25.520 –> 01:08:28.880
into potentially the next category we could talk

01:08:28.880 –> 01:08:33.640
about. But if there’s a needle drop, which we

01:08:33.640 –> 01:08:34.979
use that term in the industry, if you’re not

01:08:34.979 –> 01:08:39.359
familiar, whenever you use like a licensed song

01:08:39.359 –> 01:08:44.470
in the movie, it’s called a needle drop. but

01:08:44.470 –> 01:08:47.529
if you do that you know with like say somebody

01:08:47.529 –> 01:08:50.529
playing it on the jukebox or perhaps an actual

01:08:50.529 –> 01:08:52.470
band playing in the movie that you’re filming

01:08:52.470 –> 01:08:54.729
you can kind of like get around that a little

01:08:54.729 –> 01:08:58.329
bit because you’re not setting it to the story

01:08:58.329 –> 01:09:00.369
and trying to get you know you’re not in danger

01:09:00.369 –> 01:09:04.130
of breaking the fourth wall by including it um

01:09:04.130 –> 01:09:05.829
maybe we could talk about best performances in

01:09:05.829 –> 01:09:08.989
a so i’ll say what what am i i think the best

01:09:08.989 –> 01:09:12.770
performance just because it’s so cool and it’s

01:09:12.439 –> 01:09:14.939
interesting in a historical context, just in

01:09:14.939 –> 01:09:18.239
the hunger. You have David Bowie watching, I

01:09:18.239 –> 01:09:22.399
think, Bauhaus, and Bauhaus covered in Ziggy

01:09:22.399 –> 01:09:24.779
Stardust, so it’s this real, like, goth, like…

01:09:24.779 –> 01:09:27.140
That’s so funny. So I just thought it was interesting

01:09:27.140 –> 01:09:29.520
that a band that’s covering David Bowie is, you

01:09:29.520 –> 01:09:31.760
know, in a David Bowie movie where he’s, like,

01:09:31.939 –> 01:09:34.500
stars, you know, and is at this goth club and

01:09:34.500 –> 01:09:36.659
stuff. I just, like, that’s kind of fascinating.

01:09:36.800 –> 01:09:40.319
It’s a cool, very cinematic, stylish performance

01:09:40.319 –> 01:09:44.699
goth type thing. We had touched on the Lost Boys

01:09:44.699 –> 01:09:46.979
with Timmy Capello and Taffa to brought that

01:09:46.979 –> 01:09:49.800
up, too And that was such like oh what the fuck

01:09:49.800 –> 01:09:52.779
is this? When you first are watching, but it

01:09:52.779 –> 01:09:56.079
just feels part of a you know culture, you know,

01:09:56.279 –> 01:09:58.739
of course there’s only playing on the Boardwalk,

01:09:58.800 –> 01:10:01.460
but why is this dude like a beef case all oiled

01:10:01.460 –> 01:10:03.840
up, you know, like it’s just but it’s like a

01:10:03.840 –> 01:10:05.560
fun thing and everyone’s rocking out and you

01:10:05.560 –> 01:10:08.359
know the yeah, it’s he that’s a good example

01:10:08.359 –> 01:10:11.279
of what I was just talking about where It’s like,

01:10:11.359 –> 01:10:13.380
let’s be honest, by today’s standards is like

01:10:13.380 –> 01:10:16.220
super corny and kind of, you know, is this like

01:10:16.220 –> 01:10:19.840
mullet and everything is like so 80s like cheese

01:10:19.840 –> 01:10:23.560
in a way. But because it’s like this live performance,

01:10:23.819 –> 01:10:26.020
it like integrates so well into the film. And

01:10:26.020 –> 01:10:28.119
it like, because of that, it’s like, I actually

01:10:28.119 –> 01:10:30.220
think a lot of people think about that scene

01:10:30.220 –> 01:10:32.020
when they think about Lost Boys. Like for me,

01:10:32.020 –> 01:10:34.640
it always stood out and like, you know, it’s

01:10:34.640 –> 01:10:36.359
part of why, but I don’t hate it. Like it works

01:10:36.359 –> 01:10:39.720
in the film because it’s like organically. you

01:10:39.720 –> 01:10:42.159
know, woven into it. Yeah, it feels like it’s

01:10:42.159 –> 01:10:44.960
the world, you know, the time and the place and

01:10:44.960 –> 01:10:49.079
all that. Exactly. And one I think we both were

01:10:49.079 –> 01:10:50.939
going to talk about was like Green Room, right?

01:10:52.079 –> 01:10:55.000
And what’s interesting about that is it’s yeah,

01:10:55.020 –> 01:10:57.800
it’s a punk band that, you know, a show fell

01:10:57.800 –> 01:10:59.640
through, so now they need money and they go and

01:10:59.640 –> 01:11:01.840
they play some sketchy venue out in the backwoods

01:11:01.840 –> 01:11:07.010
in Oregon. It’s to like neo -nazis and so being

01:11:07.010 –> 01:11:08.909
a punk band. What are they gonna? One of them’s

01:11:08.909 –> 01:11:11.170
like I got a bad idea Let’s do it and they cover

01:11:11.170 –> 01:11:13.750
the dead Kennedy’s Nazi punk fuck off and they

01:11:13.750 –> 01:11:15.970
perform it and of course That’s the punk thing

01:11:15.970 –> 01:11:19.029
to do and so that’s kind of built into it I don’t

01:11:19.029 –> 01:11:21.409
know that many punk bands would actually go play

01:11:21.409 –> 01:11:25.550
a neo -nazi Venue in real life, but well, I think

01:11:25.550 –> 01:11:27.989
part of the thing is that they didn’t know When

01:11:27.989 –> 01:11:30.449
they took the thing that it was quite that they

01:11:30.449 –> 01:11:32.489
needed they needed the gas money and then they

01:11:32.729 –> 01:11:35.449
The guy was like, I got you a show. And they’re

01:11:35.449 –> 01:11:37.409
like, all right, well, and they show up and they’re

01:11:37.409 –> 01:11:39.970
like, fuck it. You know, let’s burn this place

01:11:39.970 –> 01:11:44.090
down. What’s great about this particular song

01:11:44.090 –> 01:11:46.989
in this movie too, and this is like where you

01:11:46.989 –> 01:11:49.550
really hit the trifecta, I guess. It’s like a

01:11:49.550 –> 01:11:52.590
good song. It’s woven into the movie, but it

01:11:52.590 –> 01:11:56.090
also furthers the plot, which is a really hard

01:11:56.090 –> 01:12:01.079
thing to do with. You know a song in a movie

01:12:01.079 –> 01:12:03.279
right because like there are limited opportunities

01:12:03.279 –> 01:12:05.800
to do that But in this case it was like brilliant

01:12:05.800 –> 01:12:10.159
because it motivates what happens next No, I

01:12:10.159 –> 01:12:13.760
absolutely it’s it was a very smart idea on director

01:12:13.760 –> 01:12:16.920
Jeremy’s Well, I will say something else pretty

01:12:16.920 –> 01:12:20.720
wild about green room. I I grew up in Alexandria,

01:12:20.739 –> 01:12:23.180
Virginia and I grew up literally across the street

01:12:23.180 –> 01:12:26.970
from the director Jeremy Sonya. So, I got a chance

01:12:26.970 –> 01:12:29.050
to see Green Room before a lot of people as a

01:12:29.050 –> 01:12:31.149
private screening. Not because I didn’t know

01:12:31.149 –> 01:12:33.850
him. I just knew he was. But our friend Akil

01:12:33.850 –> 01:12:36.369
was able to arrange this, so I got to see a private

01:12:36.369 –> 01:12:39.069
screening in Beverly Hills. And when I’m watching

01:12:39.069 –> 01:12:41.630
it, the Ain’t Rites are the punk band in that,

01:12:41.869 –> 01:12:44.229
and their songs are originals. Except they’re

01:12:44.229 –> 01:12:47.829
not. They’re songs by this band Missionary Position

01:12:47.829 –> 01:12:50.899
that was only at a demo tape in Alexandria. so

01:12:50.899 –> 01:12:52.939
they play the song coronary and i’m just like

01:12:52.939 –> 01:12:56.220
holy fuck that’s like you know think of a local

01:12:56.220 –> 01:12:58.180
band in your town and then all their song is

01:12:58.180 –> 01:13:01.880
in a movie like that so that just blew me away

01:13:01.880 –> 01:13:05.539
that like that he was repurposing songs and uh

01:13:05.539 –> 01:13:08.140
two of the characters are tiger was named after

01:13:08.140 –> 01:13:11.979
my friend ned and tad was named after pad payton

01:13:11.979 –> 01:13:14.460
um wait he was named after net i didn’t know

01:13:14.460 –> 01:13:17.239
that yeah that’s chad’s ted ned was in a band

01:13:17.239 –> 01:13:19.840
called He was also in a band very shortly with

01:13:19.840 –> 01:13:22.899
Jeremy, but Ned was in a band called, uh, the

01:13:22.899 –> 01:13:26.340
Mitch, uh, the baseball theories with Sam Jones

01:13:26.340 –> 01:13:29.920
and the other members of, um, missionary position,

01:13:30.140 –> 01:13:33.720
including the singer who was in blue ruin and,

01:13:33.720 –> 01:13:37.060
and burger party, but, uh, where I’m getting

01:13:37.060 –> 01:13:38.840
sidetracked, but yeah, they called him tiger.

01:13:38.859 –> 01:13:42.739
And so that’s why the singer, the, uh, the ain’t

01:13:42.739 –> 01:13:44.939
rights is called tiger. And now the kid with

01:13:44.939 –> 01:13:48.619
the Mohawk is named Tad. So I spoiled that for

01:13:48.619 –> 01:13:50.680
them after having seen the movie before they

01:13:50.680 –> 01:13:55.260
did. Yeah, for you at home, Ned and Tad are old

01:13:55.260 –> 01:13:57.039
friends. Peter is better friends with them, but

01:13:57.039 –> 01:13:59.979
I also knew them back in high school. So like,

01:14:00.140 –> 01:14:02.560
you know, 30 years ago. So it’s cool to see,

01:14:02.600 –> 01:14:06.199
hear these stories. So yeah, there was some like…

01:14:05.880 –> 01:14:08.819
inside baseball uh into green room that was pretty

01:14:08.819 –> 01:14:10.960
fascinating and so i was even like looking this

01:14:10.960 –> 01:14:12.560
up i was like yeah baseball fairies just had

01:14:12.560 –> 01:14:14.680
the one demo when i looked it up on the discogs

01:14:14.680 –> 01:14:18.899
page and someone had been like yo i lost my my

01:14:18.899 –> 01:14:21.619
demo of this but how the fuck did that song corny

01:14:21.619 –> 01:14:26.260
ari get in green room like so someone else and

01:14:26.260 –> 01:14:29.979
and the composers that did the uh score of green

01:14:29.979 –> 01:14:34.470
room Are they the composers that we also worked

01:14:34.470 –> 01:14:36.970
with on? Yes, the Blair Brothers. The Blair Brothers.

01:14:37.069 –> 01:14:38.189
Yeah, you want to talk about that a little bit?

01:14:38.210 –> 01:14:41.229
Yeah, so I grew up with Will, the youngest of

01:14:41.229 –> 01:14:45.310
the Blair Brothers, also from Alexandria. Will

01:14:45.310 –> 01:14:49.210
composes scores with Brooke and their older brother,

01:14:49.449 –> 01:14:51.829
Macon, is a director and actor. And Macon was

01:14:51.829 –> 01:14:54.609
one of the skinheads in Green Room and he was

01:14:54.609 –> 01:14:56.710
the star of Blue Ruin. But he’s also been in

01:14:56.710 –> 01:15:00.250
Oppenheimer and he did the Toxic Avenger remake.

01:15:01.250 –> 01:15:03.189
Yeah, he’s making a lot of cool stuff. He’s a

01:15:03.189 –> 01:15:06.649
director. So he both acts and directs, basically.

01:15:07.090 –> 01:15:11.090
Yeah, and I think he writes too. So yeah, there’s

01:15:11.090 –> 01:15:14.750
a lot of cool people from Alexandria. Yeah, and

01:15:14.750 –> 01:15:17.630
it was cool to work with them, obviously, you

01:15:17.630 –> 01:15:21.380
know. They we kind of batted a little outside

01:15:21.380 –> 01:15:23.619
of our league on getting them for our short film

01:15:23.619 –> 01:15:26.380
But luckily because of the Alexander connection

01:15:26.380 –> 01:15:28.359
they were willing to work with us They did a

01:15:28.359 –> 01:15:30.079
really great job and who knows maybe we could

01:15:30.079 –> 01:15:32.479
get them on the podcast at some point The other

01:15:32.479 –> 01:15:34.539
thing I’ll say about green room is like a lot

01:15:34.539 –> 01:15:37.680
of metal bands are on it Slayer poison idea another

01:15:37.680 –> 01:15:40.300
song there’s bad brains, but it has this band

01:15:40.300 –> 01:15:43.119
midnight I like evil like a knife is a song and

01:15:43.119 –> 01:15:46.000
the reason I mentioned this is there was a a

01:15:46.000 –> 01:15:48.140
horror movie called Deathgasm that’s about, it’s

01:15:48.140 –> 01:15:50.579
like a metal horror movie, and that also had

01:15:50.579 –> 01:15:53.760
Evil Like a Knife came out same year, 2015, so

01:15:53.760 –> 01:15:57.340
cool, it’s just kind of a cool coincidence. Yeah,

01:15:57.460 –> 01:16:00.960
so there’s a number of performances that actually

01:16:00.960 –> 01:16:02.739
I thought we could talk about, but I’m gonna,

01:16:03.439 –> 01:16:07.720
for brevity’s sake, I’ll just mention a pair

01:16:07.720 –> 01:16:11.439
from uh Wednesday the show which I know I feels

01:16:11.439 –> 01:16:13.039
a little cheating because it’s like not hard

01:16:13.039 –> 01:16:15.100
horror and it’s like more recent but also they’re

01:16:15.100 –> 01:16:18.680
just so well done um the first one I wanted to

01:16:18.680 –> 01:16:22.439
mention is when Wednesday’s playing paint it

01:16:22.439 –> 01:16:25.000
black on the cello and it’s kind of at the climax

01:16:25.000 –> 01:16:28.100
of that episode and you it’s like you know a

01:16:28.100 –> 01:16:30.600
montage a musical montage of like different action

01:16:30.600 –> 01:16:32.420
of different characters happening and but she’s

01:16:32.420 –> 01:16:36.199
on the roof and in playing and it’s just so well

01:16:36.199 –> 01:16:40.140
done and um her performance in terms of acting

01:16:40.140 –> 01:16:41.680
it I don’t know if she’s actually playing it’s

01:16:41.680 –> 01:16:44.619
a really good question but but like the way that

01:16:44.619 –> 01:16:48.340
she acts it is like is really great too so iconic

01:16:48.340 –> 01:16:51.340
scene and then probably the most iconic scene

01:16:51.340 –> 01:16:55.220
from Wednesday is at the school winter dance

01:16:55.220 –> 01:17:00.060
or whatever when she does her weird Adam’s Family

01:17:00.060 –> 01:17:03.489
dance to Goo Goo Muck by the Cramps Right. And

01:17:03.489 –> 01:17:05.750
that thing trended forever and I think it became

01:17:05.750 –> 01:17:08.670
like a dance crazy even a little bit. So on TikTok

01:17:08.670 –> 01:17:11.170
or something. Yeah. It was a moment. And the

01:17:11.170 –> 01:17:14.890
Kramps are in a lot of cool soundtracks. Which

01:17:14.890 –> 01:17:17.590
makes perfect sense. I mean, they’re like horror

01:17:17.590 –> 01:17:22.250
punk. I mean, the greats. Psycho Billy. The Texas

01:17:22.250 –> 01:17:24.949
Chainsaw Massacre II soundtracks features the

01:17:24.949 –> 01:17:28.050
Kramps and I think IRS records put it out. Best

01:17:28.050 –> 01:17:32.399
Oingo Boingo song or one of them. Well, and yeah

01:17:32.399 –> 01:17:34.399
return living dead the cramps are on that they’re

01:17:34.399 –> 01:17:38.119
in near dark, you know, they They’re just yeah

01:17:38.119 –> 01:17:40.180
in a league of their own. So it’s always cool

01:17:40.180 –> 01:17:43.100
when they pop up right a league of their own

01:17:43.100 –> 01:17:45.319
That’s a random on now not the movie. I’d be

01:17:45.319 –> 01:17:51.359
kind of wild if they were in that Nice But yeah,

01:17:51.439 –> 01:17:53.600
no, it’s always cool to when cramps songs pop

01:17:53.600 –> 01:17:55.939
up they were on night at 902 and oh, I will say

01:17:55.939 –> 01:17:58.670
that There’s a halloween episode and they played

01:17:58.670 –> 01:18:03.390
on That’s funny A little outside of horror, but

01:18:03.390 –> 01:18:05.970
just kind of amusing related. I mean, it’s halloween.

01:18:05.970 –> 01:18:08.369
It’s a halloween party Yeah, that’s true. That’s

01:18:08.369 –> 01:18:11.850
why that’s why they were on that um And I guess

01:18:11.850 –> 01:18:14.449
if we want to get into were there any other performances

01:18:14.449 –> 01:18:17.449
or were those the ones? I just an honorable mention

01:18:17.449 –> 01:18:20.710
real quick to um, and it’s and it’s honestly

01:18:20.710 –> 01:18:27.149
Could be the top one is uh in sinners the live

01:18:27.149 –> 01:18:29.470
performance by Miles Canton, the character’s

01:18:29.470 –> 01:18:33.829
named Sammy, of I Lied To You. And it was just

01:18:33.829 –> 01:18:37.510
like one of those scenes in the film where it’s

01:18:37.510 –> 01:18:42.810
like expresses the theme and it’s very memorable

01:18:42.810 –> 01:18:45.529
scene. And I think like, you know, they really

01:18:45.529 –> 01:18:48.630
were trying to say something with it. But his

01:18:48.630 –> 01:18:51.590
performance, and it was all done live, apparently.

01:18:53.300 –> 01:18:56.460
Yeah, it really came together and it was like

01:18:56.460 –> 01:19:00.060
a… I mean, it’s going to be a classic, you

01:19:00.060 –> 01:19:03.460
know, if it’s not already, so. I’m sure, yeah,

01:19:03.560 –> 01:19:08.779
Sinners was humongous. I feel like before we

01:19:08.779 –> 01:19:10.640
wrap things up, there’s just a couple soundtracks

01:19:10.640 –> 01:19:13.479
that we kind of have to talk about. Please, yeah.

01:19:14.260 –> 01:19:17.819
One is, like, all right, so in the 80s, that

01:19:17.819 –> 01:19:22.409
was… Shit was bonkers. Nightmare on Elm Street

01:19:22.409 –> 01:19:26.630
had different movies with different songs. Part

01:19:26.630 –> 01:19:30.310
3 had Dawkin. You know, Dream Warriors was a

01:19:30.310 –> 01:19:31.630
big one. I think they had a couple other songs

01:19:31.630 –> 01:19:35.130
on the soundtrack. 4, you had Drama Rama, Blinded

01:19:35.130 –> 01:19:39.350
Blondie, Divinals. 5, Bruce Dickinson wrote the

01:19:39.350 –> 01:19:41.510
song, Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter for

01:19:41.510 –> 01:19:43.569
the soundtrack. And then Iron Maiden’s like,

01:19:43.649 –> 01:19:46.750
wait, we want this to be ours. So then they made

01:19:46.750 –> 01:19:49.649
an Iron Maiden song. Six, the soundtracks put

01:19:49.649 –> 01:19:52.829
out by Metal Blade. The Goo Goo Dolls wrote a

01:19:52.829 –> 01:19:55.770
really cool song. Damn, I’m gonna screw up the

01:19:55.770 –> 01:19:57.550
name. It’s like Don’t Go to Sleep or Don’t Fall

01:19:57.550 –> 01:20:00.270
Asleep. Had a couple songs on that. Iggy Pop

01:20:00.270 –> 01:20:03.430
wrote the theme song for that too. He had a song.

01:20:04.930 –> 01:20:07.250
So the Elm Street’s really like went all in on

01:20:07.250 –> 01:20:10.569
soundtrack stuff from time to time. I mentioned

01:20:10.569 –> 01:20:13.350
the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 soundtrack, which

01:20:13.350 –> 01:20:15.909
had some… Lords of the New Church as well was

01:20:15.909 –> 01:20:20.939
on that. The demons movie the Italian crazy gonzo

01:20:20.939 –> 01:20:24.640
Movies had it wild soundtracks the Smith’s panic

01:20:24.640 –> 01:20:27.479
is on one of them the cult is on the soundtrack

01:20:27.479 –> 01:20:33.300
the sequel you had white wedding you had What’s

01:20:33.300 –> 01:20:36.380
that pops that you I think except the the metal

01:20:36.380 –> 01:20:38.760
band I’m just kind of going through what the

01:20:38.760 –> 01:20:40.439
stuff off that on my head, but it’s yeah, they’re

01:20:40.439 –> 01:20:42.000
pretty robust soundtracks. They’re like, whoa,

01:20:42.060 –> 01:20:47.890
this is crazy a funny one that is amusing with

01:20:47.890 –> 01:20:50.550
a quick little story is the Shocker soundtrack.

01:20:51.029 –> 01:20:53.670
That was Wes Craven’s late 80s. I think they

01:20:53.670 –> 01:20:55.329
wanted him to come up with a new Freddy Krueger.

01:20:55.489 –> 01:20:57.689
So you get Horace Pinker, who’s like a guy who

01:20:57.689 –> 01:21:01.109
gets electrocuted and then comes back to battle

01:21:01.109 –> 01:21:03.670
the protagonist. And I have a big soft spot for

01:21:03.670 –> 01:21:07.170
Shocker. But Desmond Child, who’s a guy who was

01:21:07.170 –> 01:21:09.890
a hit maker, he went on to write the thong song

01:21:09.890 –> 01:21:13.050
and he wrote Living the Vita Loca. He was in

01:21:13.050 –> 01:21:15.899
charge of the Shocker soundtrack. So he put together

01:21:15.899 –> 01:21:19.380
this super group called dudes of wrath and It

01:21:19.380 –> 01:21:22.359
was like Tommy Lee of Motley Crue Someone from

01:21:22.359 –> 01:21:24.680
Alice Cooper’s band one of the guys in Def Leppard

01:21:24.680 –> 01:21:27.520
and they wrote the theme song shocker Which is

01:21:27.520 –> 01:21:30.039
just wild because it starts out like a Megadeth

01:21:30.039 –> 01:21:32.380
song and it ends up like a journey or Andrew

01:21:32.380 –> 01:21:36.060
W case And I’m I absolutely love it. And then

01:21:36.060 –> 01:21:39.779
I think like Megadeth had did No more. Mr. Nice

01:21:39.779 –> 01:21:43.199
guy on the soundtrack really wild soundtrack

01:21:43.199 –> 01:21:46.880
that I think was a bit of a fluke but you know

01:21:46.880 –> 01:21:49.279
they were ramping up and it’s just kind of wild

01:21:49.279 –> 01:21:51.899
that Desmond Child was the dude behind that it’s

01:21:51.899 –> 01:21:57.399
like alright guys let’s do this yeah so you there’s

01:21:57.399 –> 01:22:00.140
yeah soundtracks man there’s so many there’s

01:22:00.140 –> 01:22:02.760
too many to cover there’s some that aren’t like

01:22:02.760 –> 01:22:05.659
explicitly horror and genre that are also complete

01:22:05.659 –> 01:22:08.439
bangers like the can hardly wait soundtrack and

01:22:08.439 –> 01:22:11.000
stuff like that but uh all the John Heath stuff

01:22:11.279 –> 01:22:13.539
Yeah, all the John Hughes stuff. I mean, we,

01:22:13.539 –> 01:22:15.840
you know, we had to limit ourselves and since

01:22:15.840 –> 01:22:17.979
we focus so much on horror and genre, that’s

01:22:17.979 –> 01:22:20.520
what we’re talking about. But man, a good soundtrack

01:22:20.520 –> 01:22:24.640
can really set the tone for a movie. And then

01:22:24.640 –> 01:22:27.680
it’s a good way to like, you know, kind of bring

01:22:27.680 –> 01:22:30.279
that movie into your life and, and like think

01:22:30.279 –> 01:22:32.239
about it by when you’re like listening to music

01:22:32.239 –> 01:22:35.159
and drive in to work or whatever. And for younger

01:22:35.159 –> 01:22:37.619
people, it’s a great gateway to discover new

01:22:37.619 –> 01:22:40.479
music. I mean, you have so many outlets now.

01:22:40.520 –> 01:22:43.939
It’s not the same where, you know, you go see

01:22:43.939 –> 01:22:45.859
a movie and you’re exposed to something and you’re

01:22:45.859 –> 01:22:48.039
like, that’s the only way you’re going to hear

01:22:48.039 –> 01:22:51.939
this. But it’s still, as you see with Stranger

01:22:51.939 –> 01:22:54.699
Things, you know, and these big shows that was

01:22:54.699 –> 01:22:57.239
doing it. I mean, Stranger Things wasn’t even

01:22:57.239 –> 01:23:00.500
the first one to do it. The Sopranos ended with

01:23:00.500 –> 01:23:03.439
Don’t Stop Believing by Journey. So TV shows

01:23:03.439 –> 01:23:06.409
were doing that. The teens there was a show called

01:23:06.409 –> 01:23:08.550
The Following where Kevin Bacon was hunting the

01:23:08.550 –> 01:23:10.630
serial killer who was doing all these Edgar Allen

01:23:10.630 –> 01:23:13.289
Poe reenactments of murders from his stories

01:23:13.289 –> 01:23:16.210
and that had like Refused, New Noise, Danzig,

01:23:16.909 –> 01:23:20.590
how the gods kill and so you would see this but

01:23:20.590 –> 01:23:23.170
like now that everything’s streaming that’s where

01:23:23.170 –> 01:23:27.210
you get the most mileage for those songs. I think

01:23:27.210 –> 01:23:30.010
it’s a good place to leave it. You gotta do anything

01:23:30.010 –> 01:23:32.729
interesting this week or next two weeks really?

01:23:35.310 –> 01:23:37.930
Hopefully I kind of want to see that movie Leviticus.

01:23:38.430 –> 01:23:41.069
Oh, yeah Yeah, that’s I saw someone was saying

01:23:41.069 –> 01:23:43.189
it’s like a cross between talk to me and it follows.

01:23:43.189 –> 01:23:47.189
I was like wait what? Yeah, I know I’m I’m surprisingly

01:23:47.189 –> 01:23:49.649
pretty interested in that. I mean, it’s not surprising

01:23:49.649 –> 01:23:52.810
But when I first found out about it, I was like,

01:23:52.810 –> 01:23:54.750
oh, you know, and it’s the movie it could be

01:23:54.750 –> 01:23:56.729
good But now I’m like, oh, I want to see that,

01:23:56.850 –> 01:24:00.130
you know, right? So I know that just came out.

01:24:00.130 –> 01:24:03.050
So there’s that I’m sure there’s there’s things

01:24:03.050 –> 01:24:06.489
like I don’t always writing Hey, yeah, totally

01:24:06.489 –> 01:24:09.670
always ready. We got that. How about you? Yeah

01:24:09.670 –> 01:24:12.130
Same, you know, I’m interested in checking out

01:24:12.130 –> 01:24:16.470
Leviticus You know, I just want to kind of get

01:24:16.470 –> 01:24:20.210
back to work and some of my own and our projects,

01:24:20.229 –> 01:24:25.029
you know that Yeah, it’s kind of the usual stuff

01:24:25.029 –> 01:24:27.920
really I mean, it’s the summer There’s not like

01:24:27.920 –> 01:24:29.939
a ton of movies coming out, so I’ll probably

01:24:29.939 –> 01:24:32.500
use the opportunity to catch up on some things

01:24:32.500 –> 01:24:37.119
that I haven’t gotten to so far this year. Right

01:24:37.119 –> 01:24:41.000
on, man. Yeah, summer is here. That’s going to

01:24:41.000 –> 01:24:42.960
bring us to the end of today’s episode. If you’re

01:24:42.960 –> 01:24:44.819
still listening, thanks for sticking around till

01:24:44.819 –> 01:24:47.520
the end. If you want to check out today’s show

01:24:47.520 –> 01:24:49.579
notes, you can go to our website at nightmarelogic

01:24:49.579 –> 01:24:52.920
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01:24:53.199 –> 01:24:55.520
We’d like to give a big shout out to our composer

01:24:55.520 –> 01:24:58.619
Lars Lang -Petersen for the score. Come back

01:24:58.619 –> 01:25:00.640
next week where we’re going to have some really

01:25:00.640 –> 01:25:04.399
interesting conversations. Until then, talk to

01:25:04.399 –> 01:25:04.579
you later.