Music Videos That Put The Boogie in Boogeyman

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Welcome back to nightmare logic the podcast where

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you don’t know if you’re on drugs or we are we’re

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your host Christopher Smith and Peter Sawyer

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We’re back again with our friend Taffeta darling

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because she was so great last time. Hello. Thank

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you And today we’re gonna talk about music videos.

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So grab a cold one and kick your feet up So did

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you guys do anything fun this week any watch

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anything? Anything cool come out that you want

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to talk about? I’m still watching primal. I fucking

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love primal It’s on the adult swim, but then

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it comes on a HBO the next day It’s pretty much

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just like I think I mentioned before the caveman

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going through like the different stages of his

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life But there’s like not a lot of vocalization

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it’s just like gruesome battle scenes and like

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blood and like moody music and like really pretty

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hand -drawn animation Cartoon Network. Yes on

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Sundays, but then Mondays It’s on HBO go. That’s

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how I watch it. So now I was telling Taffeta.

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So I watched Sisu Road to Revenge. It’s director

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Gelmari Helander. I believe he’s Finnish. It’s

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his follow up to his first film, which is called

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Sisu. It’s really solid. If you’re not familiar

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with it, Sisu is basically it’s a word and I

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think it’s Finnish as well. They can’t really

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be translated in English, but it means like you

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do your insane courage and bravery when you’re

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white knuckling it. But it basically follows

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a soldier who’s John Wick level Rambo, and the

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violence is very creative. And when you see the

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first one, you’re just like, it’s jaw dropping.

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It feels like something out of a cartoon, but

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not cartoonish, if that makes sense. And it just

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blew me away. So the sequel is kind of more of

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the same. But what’s interesting is Sisu doesn’t

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speak, really. He might say something at the

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very end of the first one, but not in the second.

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It takes place around World War II. or just after

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or during both between the two of them. But and

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then I watched the first episode of Primal what

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Taffet is talking about. And that also doesn’t

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have much talking because so it was it was it

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was interesting to go like coincidentally from

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one thing to the other. I’m like, oh, yeah, there

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wasn’t much talking in either of these. And it

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just speaks to the power of visuals. Totally.

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Actually, that’s an exercise they often do in

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film school when you are kind of a first starting

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out is like do a first kind of usually on 16

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millimeter bollocks. I don’t know if they do

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it anymore, because, you know, film, you know,

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whatever, but, you know, they’re not sync sound

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cameras. So they would be like, tell a story

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without, you know, dialogue, but you could use

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music, I think. So that, that checks out. I mean,

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it, it’s so true. Like if you can’t convey through

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visuals, then like oftentimes it’s like, you

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know. Well, it’s why like exposition often drags

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in. in movies like if you have to get information

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across you got to make it during a very interesting

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scene right you know now it’s true like right

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in the middle of the big climax also the music

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though too like i think the music also adds so

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much more because you know like you know when

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you’re watching the primal like it’s just so

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dramatic you got to have that right music especially

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if there’s no vocalization because music is also

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the other storyteller and given like that audio

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it’s since oh yeah it’s like those old disney

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cartoons back in the day yeah silent Films, right?

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Yeah. Well as an editor, let me tell you if it

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seems not really working I’m like, I just need

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the right music to sell this and uh, it’s like

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my little cheat code. Yep, you know uh this week

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I watched the first episode of dark winds actually

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last night because i’ve been meaning to check

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it out and You know my uh, fiance, it’s not really

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her kind of thing. So I rarely get a chance to

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watch things on my own and uh, you know, I thought

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I’d give it a shot since it it kind of comes

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up often, I feel like. And, you know, I really

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liked it. Have you guys seen it? I don’t even

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know what that is. I haven’t finished the final

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season or the recent season, but yeah, I went

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through that first. And I didn’t realize how

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supernatural it was gonna wind up being. At first,

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I thought it was just kind of like this crazy,

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you know… Small town the police is back, you

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know, there’s like a murder what’s going on,

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but there’s like a lot of occult and like supernatural

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stuff tied to it What what is it? Well, so the

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premise for those who don’t know is um, it’s

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about some Basically the police on the navajo

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reservation in the 70s I think it’s early 70s

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74 something like that and um Which actually

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in my 20s i’ve probably spent about eight weeks

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of my life staying on the navajo reservation

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with like a navajo family and uh learning a bit

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about the culture and stuff, so For me, it’s

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like really interesting kind of like took me

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back there. And I knew some of the legend, you

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know, the sort of mythology or I don’t want to

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I don’t know if that’s like a rude way to put

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it, but the religious lore of of the Navajo.

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So I find it really interesting. And what I really

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like about it, though, is it’s like a whole not

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like the Navajo cast. And I believe the Navajo

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it’s Navajo creator, if I’m not mistaken. But

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anyways, it’s it’s an interesting look at. Film

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and kind of a supernatural. I don’t know if you

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call it a hundred percent horror, but like kind

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of is and But just kind of it. I don’t know I

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like I thought it was just an interesting angle

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on it on a kind of a series We might have seen

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before you know Okay, well, let’s move on to

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the news as we love the news Actually, this isn’t

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really news, but I did have one more question

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for you actually before we get onto that I came

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across an article about D &D comic book called

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You probably already know it now fallbacks I

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Don’t know but this this is an article like talking

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about how great it was so I was gonna ask you

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if you’d read it Yeah, yeah, it’s like a I think

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it’s like a miniseries like a yeah Yeah, yeah,

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it’s supposedly the first one dropped back in

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October or whatever No, all right. Well, I expect

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you to check it out a report I’m gonna have to

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look and see now Great well, so this week Some

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unfortunate news to lead with Friday the 13th

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the new beginning star Cory Parker passed away

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At the age of 60 of cancer. Did you guys watch

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that one? I’ve seen all of them. Yeah. Yeah,

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it’s had that one stack up. I haven’t seen it.

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Um, it’s entertaining it’s kind of the That’s

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part five, right? Which it was Jason lives No,

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no, no, it’s a new beginning Fuck I might be

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getting mixed up So I don’t want to put my foot

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my mouth and chime in on the wrong one because

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I tend to get there’s a lot of them Well, the

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larger point though is there seems like a lot

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of people are dying this year No, I mean I meant

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to mention this last week is Dan Simmons died

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and that didn’t get a lot of coverage He is an

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author known for writing the terror and I really

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enjoyed that book that became a series Yeah,

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actually that’s been on my list for like years

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now and I’m always like But weirdly, I’ve never

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heard anyone talk about it, but it’s highly rated.

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It’s a great book. I mean, I bought it and I

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was a substitute teacher at the time when this

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came out and I lost it. And I was like, God damn

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it. And like so I ended up rebuying. It’s a thick

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book. I don’t know how many pages it was, but

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I feel like it was at least five hundred or something.

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And then I’m back at the school and found my

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book in the like teacher’s lounge. Of course,

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I left it here. Yeah. But yeah, I really enjoyed

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the book. I didn’t get Too into the series, and

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maybe I just needed to give it more of a shot.

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Yeah. Yeah, it’s like surprisingly high. I think

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it’s like in the sevens on IMDB, which for anything

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over seven on IMDB, I feel like is like usually

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really solid. But great. Well, so Scream 7 came

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out last weekend from when we’re recording this

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and knocked it out of the park. Best best box

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office take of the franchise at ninety seven

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point two million globally. 64 .1 million domestically

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I mentioned it just because it was kind of big

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news and also we talked about it last week with

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the calls for boycotts and stuff which had Looks

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like essentially no impact So probably because

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the people who had boycott it probably wouldn’t

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watch it to begin with but yeah But it’s really

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interesting and that’s all despite a really low

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5 .9 and IMDB and 32 % on Rotten Tomatoes in

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terms of Yeah, people going to see that are going

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for the actual like story of it all at this point.

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Yeah It’s definitely not critics going there

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to like, you know have some theatrical Experience

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it’s people who just want to show up and like

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watch hack slash and some Kessin Well, you say

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I mean I hear you but IMDB theory is the people

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yeah Unless unless it’s been review bombed I

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didn’t look at that Oh, that is an interesting

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point. I mean, I’ve seen kind of mixed reviews

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from people I trust. I haven’t read deeply into

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it because I’m like, I’ll see it if I see it,

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but I’m not dying to see it. Well, it’s like,

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how many times can you tell the same story? I

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mean, I don’t know, because there’s always a

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twist, right? There’s always the big reveal with

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these and it’s like… I don’t know. Fool me

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once, shame on you. Fool me seven more times.

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Shame on me. I mean, it’s also like most sequels

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don’t really need to exist. It’s just the first

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one was successful. So let’s do it again. How

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are they going to get that money? I’m sorry.

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No, there are exceptions. Like I think Terminator

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2. Or like the Indiana Jones movies. I’m joking.

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But honestly, I kind of like sequels. when they’re

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treated as like not like an afterthought, you

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know, like they have a reason to exist unto themselves.

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Part of the story. Yeah. So also this weekend,

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The Bride is coming out, which is interesting.

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I haven’t seen it yet, but I’m curious to see

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how it does. It also surprisingly has middling

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reviews, so I’m curious why that might be. You

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guys plan on seeing it? I will eventually I’m

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curious, but I’m not like super curious. You

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know, like I was more curious about the del Toro

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one that they had on Netflix, like that one,

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like the Frankenstein one. And I’m curious about

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the bride because I love that, you know, creature.

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But just, I don’t know, I feel like the whole

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Bonnie and Clyde thing is kind of appealing,

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you know, that they’re framing it. But also it’s

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like, yeah, I feel like I’ve seen this before.

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I want to put my time into a theater of something

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that I haven’t seen before. Right. If that makes

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sense. Yeah, and I kind of just wonder if it’s

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ends up being a jumble of ideas, you know, because

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the Bonnie and Clyde thing alone could be a film

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and then the bride Frankenstein thing. Do they

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complement each other’s? Yeah, good question.

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Well, I mean, I think the ideas is like kind

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of a feminist take on it. So like centering the

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bride is this like bad. I don’t know. I mean,

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I’m not. Yeah, I mean, who knows? I’m just I’m

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curious because it. I’m also interested in unique

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takes on things, and it could be a unique take

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on the Frankenstein story. Lisa Frankenstein

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was fucking amazing. That movie was a great take

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on Frankenstein. I didn’t see that. Oh my God,

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it’s so like 80s and electric. It was like everything

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like Young Me would have loved as a kid, and

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I loved it as an adult because it was so colorful

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and poppy, but there was this brooding… you

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know, female lead that was like obsessed with

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like, you know, Victor von Frankenstein’s creature

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and stuff. And it was, I don’t know. That was

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a really good take on The Bride and creatures.

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Right, right. I liked Frank and Hooker. It’s

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been a while since I’ve seen that. It’s classic,

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yeah, yeah, yeah. Things are a little bit different.

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So anyways, with The Bride, I feel like I’ve

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seen this type of stuff before. So I’ll probably

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wait just so it’s like on HBO where Apple or

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some shit. Cool, cool. And then last but not

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least, Peter I believe you wanted to bring up

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the black lists new partnership I do but I need

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to get something off my chest So before getting

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into that that that I think will interest you

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or writers out there I need to take my foot out

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of my mouth and make room for the crow. I’m about

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to eat last week Christopher asked about Ryan

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Coogler doing the X files reboot and a little

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bit of hubris came out of my mouth when I said

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Kugler impressed me, like a royal jackass. So

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now I’m taking myself to task, right? This is

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how we grow. You put a mic in my face and sometimes

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I’m prone to open my big fat mouth without really

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thinking of things, but with writing you can

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have the thoughtfulness in how to engage. But

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shooting the shit can be a very different thing.

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So I want to walk that back. First of all, I

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have not earned the right to say such a thing.

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Anyone who executes a 90 million dollar film

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has done something insanely impressive and I

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was impressed not just by sinners But I really

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liked fruitvale station, which was his first

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film. So he has impressed me right and Yeah,

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man, even if I had earned the right to say coogler

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impressed me that’s such an asshole thing to

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say I mean I doubt he’s listening but uh What

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I wish I had said is I hope he impresses me with

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the x -files a lot of people really enjoyed the

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vampire stuff and sinners Was more into hoping

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for night of living dead or assault Humphrey

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sitting 13 as I love siege movies But he had

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a different approach and good for him on making

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such a big movie that brought those elements

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in so I apologize to you Ryan you do you? Well,

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thanks for that Mia culpa. Yeah, man. I just

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I Just was like why did I fucking say that? What

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do you mean? You just it’s an opinion. It’s fair

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Yeah, I mean, maybe, but just putting it that

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way is right. I hear what you’re saying. I was

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like, I mean, I actually think he’s pretty talented.

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Oh, so do I. It just it just felt like it was

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like a clickbait thing to say, you know, like,

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I don’t know. But so I just wanted to address

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that. But yes. So here’s something that’s interesting

00:14:11.639 –> 00:14:13.720
for all you horror writers out there. The Blacklist

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and Tubi are partnering up to discover a feature

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horror script for Tubi. to purchase develop with

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the intent of green lighting the script for production

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and distribution. So if you are a horror writer

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or want to write a horror script, you have a

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couple of months to do it. You just got to go

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to this is going to go in the show notes because

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it’s blacklist .com slash programs slash to be

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back blacklist horror initiative and blacklist

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is not spelled how I said it. So you’re going

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to want to Google this. But for the rules, I

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can tell you have to be 18. The script has to

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be in English. And you can submit as many times

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as you want. The final deadline is June 30th.

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And you don’t have to be part of the WGA, the

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Writers Guild. So that’s pretty cool. So guys,

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dust off all those old scripts you have and start

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vamping them up or write a new one because, yeah,

00:15:04.580 –> 00:15:08.259
the clock’s ticking. And also on that note, if

00:15:08.259 –> 00:15:11.419
you’re wondering about 2B original horrors or

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any good, I’d suggest checking out Lowlifes.

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I saw that like, I don’t know, like half a year

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ago and It was a lot of fun. It’s best to go

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in blind. Plus 2B has a great fucking catalog

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of genre films, right? Way more than you would

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expect or they even have I guess I do have the

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right to do it I feel like the right to but like

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yeah anything I want to find I could usually

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find on 2p But then he has to do the commercials

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which actually I kind of minor Yeah, I like it.

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It’s free. Sometimes like I have you know, I

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have ADHD so sometimes I have to say sometimes

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My brain could take that break. I’m like, okay

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now i’m gonna run and go do this stuff But you’re

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you’re getting like stuff You’re not gonna always

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find on amazon prime or netflix sure any of the

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other ones and they they Whoever curates it is

00:15:55.809 –> 00:15:57.269
my hats off to you, because there’s a lot of

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cool stuff on there. Yeah, especially like the

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random like 80s cartoons that you’d watch on

00:16:01.269 –> 00:16:03.009
Saturday mornings. Like I can find just about

00:16:03.009 –> 00:16:05.450
anything there. And I love that. You can find

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weird documentaries, too. Like fucking anything

00:16:09.210 –> 00:16:12.950
is so true. It’s crazy. I love you, Tubi. Sponsor

00:16:12.950 –> 00:16:15.389
us. We love you. Yeah. And if you’ve never watched

00:16:15.389 –> 00:16:19.389
Tubi, it’s a free app. Like it’s. That’s true.

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I mean, that’s the best part about it is like,

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you know. when you can’t find it anywhere else,

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they, you know, 2B and a couple of those free

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streaming ones, like 3B. Yeah, all the E’s. Howdy,

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is that one free too? I haven’t done Howdy, but

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I’m gonna look that up now. It’s like the new

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Roku channel, basically. Well, the last thing

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I’ll say is a lot of times, I don’t know if you

00:16:40.289 –> 00:16:41.730
guys are like this, if you’re looking for something

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to watch and you’re just, you’ll scan, you know,

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surf. These streaming sites and might not find

00:16:49.500 –> 00:16:51.299
something if I go to tubi i’ll find something

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a lot quicker interesting I because usually I

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end up on tubi when i’m searching for a specific

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film and they’re the only ones that have it but

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Uh, I never really go there just to browse so

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I do a lot of the live stuff like on amazon prime

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or that if you go there You just go to live and

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it’s it’s usually colombo. So That’s my go -to

00:17:10.240 –> 00:17:13.599
number number one fan and dude Legit. Yeah. But

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otherwise, when I go there, it is something just

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because I’m looking for something random. Right.

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Cool. Well, I just want to mention the horror

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and genre films coming out next or this coming

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week, which will probably be in the past once

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you hear this. But it’s a weekend of March 13th

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through 15th. And the first one that seems to

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be having a lot of hype, probably because it’s

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a 24 is undertone. And we mentioned this in our.

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Preview episode of 2026, but it it’s for a 24.

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It’s writer -director Ian Towson stars Nina Curie

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Adam DiMarco Michelle Dekwa to quit to get god.

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I really butchered that one Basically the the

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gist of it is it’s a it’s a host of a popular

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Paranormal podcast who becomes haunted by a tear

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by terrifying recordings mysteriously sent her

00:18:08.920 –> 00:18:12.210
way Which is kind of a mysterious premise, but

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it sounds interesting apparently the sound design

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is All like what it’s all about, you know, so

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there I think I have read somewhere that they’re

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trying to put it into theater like theaters that

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You know qualify for the tops your equality at

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top tier sound, which is really interesting Yeah,

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so check that out. That comes out on March 13th.

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I think it’s in limited previews this weekend,

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actually, which would be the 7th and 8th, but

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you’re not gonna hear this in time. So I have

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watched the trailer for it, and I’m actually

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really eager to see that. I mean, it has hype

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and stuff, but movies when, you know, you think

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movies are visual, right? The sound doesn’t get

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enough credit, I feel like, but also the idea

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of Where that’s a focal point to to the film

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I think will be interesting because like as a

00:19:03.890 –> 00:19:06.650
kid I loved ghost stories so you’re using your

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imagination And I imagine that’s probably gonna

00:19:08.589 –> 00:19:11.470
be the art of it is how they incorporate that

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element into like oh shit what you know So I’m

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eager to see that yeah, no I agree. I think you’re

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totally right movies and TV shows and stuff that

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really make sound you know, a first class citizen

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in the production. Like I usually it just shines.

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Do you have any interest? Oh, yeah, I mean, like

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I’m curious about it, but I’m so behind on what’s

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coming out in theaters. Like I didn’t even know

00:19:37.660 –> 00:19:38.940
that was the thing. I haven’t heard anything

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about it because like my head’s so like stuck

00:19:41.420 –> 00:19:43.460
in books, like literally that I don’t even. But

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that’s why you’re here. We need we need variety

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on this show. I don’t even know what’s come out

00:19:48.519 –> 00:19:50.279
in theaters at all. Yeah. Well, I’m telling you,

00:19:50.319 –> 00:19:51.960
that’s why I know. No, it’s great. I’m like,

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OK, now I’m going to go look at that. Also on

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the 13th is Scared to Death, which is done by

00:19:59.619 –> 00:20:02.299
writer -director Paul Boyd, stars Lil Shane,

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Bill Mosley, Oliver Parris, and it follows Jasper,

00:20:06.799 –> 00:20:08.960
a young filmmaker, as he seizes a chance to direct

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when his crew attends a seance in a haunted children’s

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shelter. Trapped inside, they’re haunted by ghostly

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orphans and a sinister force. I don’t know much

00:20:19.299 –> 00:20:22.880
about it beyond that. Bill Mosley is cool. Yeah,

00:20:23.019 –> 00:20:25.460
I mean, I don’t recognize the other names, but

00:20:25.460 –> 00:20:27.700
yeah little shane. I imagine that’s probably

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like a musician crossover But i’m not really

00:20:30.720 –> 00:20:33.680
sure Unless that’s just a really cool name. I

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don’t know. I mean it could be a pony right little

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sebastian Okay, you’re right. It’s probably a

00:20:40.619 –> 00:20:43.359
pony starring a pony I mean, I would really be

00:20:43.359 –> 00:20:45.279
into that if it was a horror movie started starring

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a little little pony little sebastian strikes

00:20:47.480 –> 00:20:50.539
back Yeah, peter. Let’s uh note it noodle on

00:20:50.539 –> 00:20:52.519
that and figure something out. You’re welcome

00:20:52.519 –> 00:20:57.440
Last but not least is the gates with uh, it’s

00:20:57.440 –> 00:21:01.059
writer director john burr and stars mason gooding

00:21:01.059 –> 00:21:03.859
algae smith another cool name and keith powers

00:21:03.859 –> 00:21:08.240
and this is actually Supposedly a thriller. Um,

00:21:08.240 –> 00:21:09.680
I don’t think there’s anything supernatural about

00:21:09.680 –> 00:21:14.240
it, but it kind of has a a get out vibe to it.

00:21:14.299 –> 00:21:16.660
So it’s about three friends on a road trip where

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it turns terrifying when they witness a murder

00:21:18.559 –> 00:21:21.759
in a gated upscale community, trapped inside,

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hunted by the residents who blame them. Their

00:21:24.220 –> 00:21:26.279
bond fractures as a charismatic yet sinister

00:21:26.279 –> 00:21:29.579
patriarch closes in. And it kind of has maybe

00:21:29.579 –> 00:21:31.059
a cold vibe. It’s hard to tell from the trailer

00:21:31.059 –> 00:21:33.519
because there’s like a church and a pastor at

00:21:33.519 –> 00:21:35.000
the center of all this in this gated community.

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What’s the title again? The Gates. The gates

00:21:38.269 –> 00:21:40.750
I did. I saw the trailer for it. James Vanderbeek

00:21:40.750 –> 00:21:42.430
is in it. I think it might be the last thing

00:21:42.430 –> 00:21:45.569
he did. Oh, fascinating. Very fascinating. Yeah,

00:21:45.589 –> 00:21:51.509
it’s because the three friends are black and

00:21:51.509 –> 00:21:53.490
the pastor and everybody seems to be white. So

00:21:53.490 –> 00:21:55.869
I wonder if there’s like kind of a racial under

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undertone. Oh, I’m sure I can get out, you know.

00:21:59.589 –> 00:22:02.430
So I’m actually it looks good. I’m kind of interested

00:22:02.430 –> 00:22:04.750
to see that one. Yeah, I am too. I mean, I’m

00:22:04.750 –> 00:22:08.119
a sucker for stuff like that. All right, let’s

00:22:08.119 –> 00:22:10.660
get into our main topic today. Wait, wait, wait.

00:22:10.839 –> 00:22:14.579
Because I forgot, I have one last thing. So I

00:22:14.579 –> 00:22:18.099
want to say thank you to Heather DeFranco who

00:22:18.099 –> 00:22:21.319
sent me this book Morbidly Curious, A Scientist

00:22:21.319 –> 00:22:25.880
Explains Why We Can’t Look Away by Colton Scrivener.

00:22:25.900 –> 00:22:27.720
Sorry, Scrivener. Jesus, I’m fucking that one

00:22:27.720 –> 00:22:30.259
up. But the reason I mention this is it’s funny

00:22:30.259 –> 00:22:32.559
because she bought this because I told her about

00:22:32.559 –> 00:22:34.400
this book and then she asked me if I had read

00:22:34.400 –> 00:22:36.829
it and I was like. Shit, I forgot about it. So

00:22:36.829 –> 00:22:39.029
she sent it to me and I wanted to shout that

00:22:39.029 –> 00:22:42.230
out cool I’m a page in and what’s kind of interesting

00:22:42.230 –> 00:22:46.210
about it is when Friday the 13th came out Gene

00:22:46.210 –> 00:22:50.170
Siskel basically went on a rampage Against it

00:22:50.170 –> 00:22:53.049
because he was like this moral outrage of this

00:22:53.049 –> 00:22:55.250
bloody movie and everyone who watches this stuff

00:22:55.250 –> 00:23:02.199
or Bad people and he he basically sent me Public

00:23:02.199 –> 00:23:04.279
Paramount’s address to send hate mail and he

00:23:04.279 –> 00:23:06.779
tried to do that to the actress who plays Jason’s

00:23:06.779 –> 00:23:08.900
mom I think her name is Betsy Palmer. So it’s

00:23:08.900 –> 00:23:11.480
guys like holy shit. This is wild, but it feels

00:23:11.480 –> 00:23:14.259
like it’s gonna be a page -turner Nice. All right.

00:23:14.359 –> 00:23:15.720
Well check that out. What’s it called again?

00:23:16.559 –> 00:23:19.240
morbidly curious or morbidly why we watch horror

00:23:19.240 –> 00:23:21.339
movies and listen to true crime and all that

00:23:21.339 –> 00:23:24.779
stuff, you know, there’s actually a Documentary

00:23:24.779 –> 00:23:27.299
that just dropped on shutter. I think it just

00:23:27.299 –> 00:23:29.539
dropped. I don’t know every did their Platform

00:23:29.539 –> 00:23:31.680
and none of them have any ratings. So I don’t

00:23:31.680 –> 00:23:33.559
know when they dropped it and it’s not from it’s

00:23:33.559 –> 00:23:36.539
like from 2023 or something, but it’s I Already

00:23:36.539 –> 00:23:38.539
forgot the title. So I’m not gonna be able to

00:23:38.539 –> 00:23:40.619
tell you that but it’s essentially about that

00:23:40.619 –> 00:23:43.940
It’s like about a big British crime in the 70s

00:23:43.940 –> 00:23:48.579
and how that kind of ignited Their obsession

00:23:48.579 –> 00:23:50.960
with true crime in slasher films and things.

00:23:51.119 –> 00:23:54.579
Yes I know the Poster or the icon or whatever

00:23:54.579 –> 00:23:56.180
you call it when you look at something online.

00:23:56.279 –> 00:23:58.380
Yeah, I don’t know what you call that thumbnail

00:23:58.919 –> 00:24:01.160
Thumbnail. Sure. Looks really cool. And so I

00:24:01.160 –> 00:24:04.000
was checking that out. It’s like my wife, Anya

00:24:04.000 –> 00:24:06.579
loves documentary. So I was like, we got to watch

00:24:06.579 –> 00:24:09.599
this and need to. It looks interesting. Yeah,

00:24:09.599 –> 00:24:13.619
I want to check it out, too. Well, let’s get

00:24:13.619 –> 00:24:15.740
into our main topic of discussion. And this one’s

00:24:15.740 –> 00:24:17.779
going to be a fun one. We’re going to talk about

00:24:17.779 –> 00:24:24.519
a non -exhaustive list of music videos that like

00:24:24.519 –> 00:24:27.359
horror music videos, essentially. And we all.

00:24:27.420 –> 00:24:30.480
picked five. They’re not necessarily picked because

00:24:30.480 –> 00:24:34.460
we love the song, some of them maybe, but it’s

00:24:34.460 –> 00:24:37.380
honestly, I think it’s just like ones that stuck

00:24:37.380 –> 00:24:40.220
with us more than anything, the video aspect

00:24:40.220 –> 00:24:44.779
of it. And we’re going to go through them and

00:24:44.779 –> 00:24:47.759
just kind of talk about what they are and what

00:24:47.759 –> 00:24:50.240
we liked about them. And then they’ll be available

00:24:50.240 –> 00:24:53.180
to watch. Links to them on our website in the

00:24:53.180 –> 00:24:55.079
show notes. But first, Peter’s going to give

00:24:55.079 –> 00:24:57.960
us a little background about the first horror

00:24:57.960 –> 00:25:00.980
-esque music video and a little bit about the

00:25:00.980 –> 00:25:04.039
genre. Yeah, it’s kind of an interesting thing.

00:25:04.519 –> 00:25:06.839
When we think of music videos, depending on your

00:25:06.839 –> 00:25:09.420
generation, you might be thinking YouTube, but

00:25:09.420 –> 00:25:11.579
if you’re a little bit older, you’re thinking

00:25:11.579 –> 00:25:17.160
MTV. And that really kicked off the video boom,

00:25:17.240 –> 00:25:20.359
music video boom, but they existed before MTV.

00:25:20.720 –> 00:25:25.119
So you have… In 1975, Alice Cooper had Welcome

00:25:25.119 –> 00:25:28.660
to My Nightmare, which is where he’s in makeup

00:25:28.660 –> 00:25:30.980
and his top hat and sort of the psychedelic gothic

00:25:30.980 –> 00:25:33.000
bedroom with people in monster masks dancing

00:25:33.000 –> 00:25:38.299
around. But in 1970, this seems to be the oldest.

00:25:39.319 –> 00:25:41.420
There were songs about horror and whatnot and

00:25:41.420 –> 00:25:44.059
performances, I believe, before this. But in

00:25:44.059 –> 00:25:46.779
1970, there’s a band called the Radlers that

00:25:46.779 –> 00:25:50.119
did a video for their song Witch that’s kind

00:25:50.119 –> 00:25:53.569
of this eerie out in the woods situation with

00:25:53.569 –> 00:25:56.029
the band and there’s some fog and random ripped

00:25:56.029 –> 00:25:59.289
up newspaper but the singer is a is a woman and

00:25:59.289 –> 00:26:01.609
she’s got long black hair and it’s just got kind

00:26:01.609 –> 00:26:04.849
of this let’s scare jessica to death vibe if

00:26:04.849 –> 00:26:07.990
you’ve seen that movie um but we also always

00:26:07.990 –> 00:26:10.190
think of thriller right that was kind of the

00:26:10.190 –> 00:26:13.569
the watershed moment for this yet before thriller

00:26:13.569 –> 00:26:17.890
in 1981 you had billy idol’s uh post gen x version

00:26:17.890 –> 00:26:21.140
of dancy with myself which was directed by Toby

00:26:21.140 –> 00:26:23.579
Hooper from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre fame.

00:26:24.299 –> 00:26:27.319
The video is a take on Omega Man from the 1971

00:26:27.319 –> 00:26:29.859
so it’s got this post -apocalyptic thing with

00:26:29.859 –> 00:26:32.059
zombie -esque street people climbing the buildings

00:26:32.059 –> 00:26:35.299
getting electrocuted and dancing stuff like that.

00:26:35.779 –> 00:26:39.519
Then in 82 Pink Floyd released their film The

00:26:39.519 –> 00:26:44.500
Wall which is kind of this night nightmarish

00:26:44.500 –> 00:26:48.019
surreal situation. It’s got kids wearing expressionless

00:26:48.019 –> 00:26:51.849
masks on a conveyor belt, falling into meat grinder,

00:26:52.490 –> 00:26:57.930
things like that. Then in 1983, you had Duran

00:26:57.930 –> 00:27:01.569
Duran releasing the Nightboat video that aired

00:27:01.569 –> 00:27:05.769
and that’s zombie themed in Muscle. Russell McKay,

00:27:05.990 –> 00:27:09.150
he directed that. You know him from Razorback,

00:27:09.369 –> 00:27:13.549
Highlander, Resident Evil Extinction. Then you

00:27:13.549 –> 00:27:17.500
had Ozzy Osbourne’s Bark at the Moon. video that

00:27:17.500 –> 00:27:20.380
beat Michael Jackson’s Thriller by a month and

00:27:20.380 –> 00:27:24.539
that aired in 1983 and during the month of November

00:27:24.539 –> 00:27:28.160
Thriller was December and then I think we saw

00:27:28.160 –> 00:27:30.839
a lot of stuff come out after that but it’s interesting

00:27:30.839 –> 00:27:33.619
because a lot of horror directors have done music

00:27:33.619 –> 00:27:37.400
videos and the ones we picked I don’t think for

00:27:37.400 –> 00:27:38.779
the most part I think a couple of them might

00:27:38.779 –> 00:27:41.819
have but that’s just your little crash course

00:27:41.819 –> 00:27:45.420
but it’s also worth noting MTV actually aired

00:27:45.420 –> 00:27:48.059
Night of the Living Dead on Halloween in both

00:27:48.059 –> 00:27:53.440
1982 and 83 as its public domain. So obviously

00:27:53.440 –> 00:27:57.160
MTV got down with the horror thing as well. I

00:27:57.160 –> 00:28:00.000
mean, I think it works a lot for music videos

00:28:00.000 –> 00:28:04.180
because the images and horror are very evocative.

00:28:04.779 –> 00:28:06.839
And, you know, if you got like kind of a darker

00:28:06.839 –> 00:28:09.339
song or whatever, it’s I think it’s pretty tempting

00:28:09.339 –> 00:28:12.859
to go to darker images and, you know. It’s good.

00:28:13.079 –> 00:28:14.960
It’s fear is like a really powerful emotion.

00:28:15.160 –> 00:28:18.259
Oh, absolutely. And there’s a lot of imagination

00:28:18.259 –> 00:28:20.480
that goes into it. Yeah, totally. I know I’ve

00:28:20.480 –> 00:28:22.579
said that. Yeah. Well, I mean, that’s what I

00:28:22.579 –> 00:28:26.200
like about music videos is they’re short. And,

00:28:26.240 –> 00:28:27.799
you know, when you’re just setting something

00:28:27.799 –> 00:28:29.900
to music, like we were talking about earlier

00:28:29.900 –> 00:28:33.319
with undertone, you know, the the music so powerful

00:28:33.319 –> 00:28:36.910
and like you can visually. Convey so many cool

00:28:36.910 –> 00:28:39.089
things and like takes you to a transports you

00:28:39.089 –> 00:28:41.369
to a place like pretty quickly and no totally

00:28:41.369 –> 00:28:44.869
I mean as a kid I loved the thriller video not

00:28:44.869 –> 00:28:48.210
my favorite Michael Jackson’s Yeah, but at the

00:28:48.210 –> 00:28:51.230
video just John Landis another notable director.

00:28:51.230 –> 00:28:56.130
Yeah Well all right, so I guess maybe the way

00:28:56.130 –> 00:28:58.910
to do this guys if you agree is we’ll just go

00:28:58.910 –> 00:29:03.630
in a circle and You know each go say one and

00:29:03.630 –> 00:29:05.480
then we’ll kind of go through until we go through

00:29:05.480 –> 00:29:08.200
all five, and we have five each, so that’s 15

00:29:08.200 –> 00:29:12.619
in total. So Peter, why don’t you kick us off

00:29:12.619 –> 00:29:15.460
since I have you listed first for some reason.

00:29:16.039 –> 00:29:19.900
Okay. Since I was talking about the eighties,

00:29:20.019 –> 00:29:23.720
I will go with Sheena Easton’s telephone, in

00:29:23.720 –> 00:29:26.900
parentheses, long distance love affair. I was

00:29:26.900 –> 00:29:29.559
telling a couple friends about this that I thought

00:29:29.559 –> 00:29:32.599
would be interesting, and my friend Daniel Ciplinski,

00:29:32.880 –> 00:29:34.740
Brought up this video which I had seen and I

00:29:34.740 –> 00:29:36.079
was like, oh, yeah, that’s a that’s a lot of

00:29:36.079 –> 00:29:38.640
fun So I wanted to talk about that. Um, it’s

00:29:38.640 –> 00:29:41.779
a catchy 80s pop song with a pulsing beat It’s

00:29:41.779 –> 00:29:44.519
shot in black and white takes place in a castle

00:29:44.519 –> 00:29:47.579
Sheena’s singing her song and it’s a nod to some

00:29:47.579 –> 00:29:51.759
of the classic monsters and their movies I enjoyed

00:29:51.759 –> 00:29:56.400
the animated severed hand playing the piano Then

00:29:56.400 –> 00:29:59.119
you got frankenstein answering the phone. You

00:29:59.119 –> 00:30:02.279
got dracula creeping in on sheena and she she

00:30:02.279 –> 00:30:04.440
gives him the business. By that I mean she’s

00:30:04.440 –> 00:30:06.740
singing her lines at him and backing him up and

00:30:06.740 –> 00:30:09.819
off the balcony. Then we got some gravediggers

00:30:09.819 –> 00:30:13.000
in the graveyard, always classic, and Sheena

00:30:13.000 –> 00:30:15.299
is being stalked by Dracula, Frankenstein, and

00:30:15.299 –> 00:30:18.519
a hunchback, and she is rescued by what looks

00:30:18.519 –> 00:30:20.839
like King Kong’s hand grabbing up and lifting

00:30:20.839 –> 00:30:23.400
her up. It’s just kind of a fun video to see

00:30:23.400 –> 00:30:26.099
who pops up and where it goes. It was directed

00:30:26.099 –> 00:30:29.720
by Steve Baron. He was a pretty prolific music

00:30:29.720 –> 00:30:33.299
director. He shot Michael Jackson, The Jam, Madonna,

00:30:33.559 –> 00:30:35.119
Tears for Fears, David Bowie, tons of other,

00:30:35.200 –> 00:30:37.680
but he also directed the 1990 Teenage Mutant

00:30:37.680 –> 00:30:41.579
Ninja Turtle film. So that’s kind of cool. That

00:30:41.579 –> 00:30:43.579
one was The Jam, man. That was the perfect date

00:30:43.579 –> 00:30:46.519
for that movie. Yeah, that movie. I enjoy that.

00:30:46.599 –> 00:30:48.480
But what’s really funny is another person I was

00:30:48.480 –> 00:30:50.279
telling about this video is our friend David

00:30:50.279 –> 00:30:52.759
Delvalle. And he’s like, oh, yeah, I was on set

00:30:52.759 –> 00:30:56.079
for that. Of course he was um, but he was kind

00:30:56.079 –> 00:30:58.559
of a consultant for the dracula stuff Yeah, yeah

00:30:58.559 –> 00:31:01.460
his and uh just kind of jump in and plug an earlier

00:31:01.460 –> 00:31:04.539
episode we did with david It was from last week.

00:31:04.539 –> 00:31:07.920
I believe so episode five or something. So go

00:31:07.920 –> 00:31:10.140
check that out He told he told me he was in the

00:31:10.140 –> 00:31:12.619
we didn’t start the vi Not in the video but on

00:31:12.619 –> 00:31:14.480
set for we didn’t start the fire by billy jolt

00:31:14.480 –> 00:31:16.720
too, which is pretty cool But the reason david

00:31:16.720 –> 00:31:19.259
was there was I think it was his client was this

00:31:19.259 –> 00:31:22.420
guy tony clay who played frankenstein in the

00:31:22.420 –> 00:31:26.029
video All right. Well, it’s really cool. I mean,

00:31:26.089 –> 00:31:27.470
honestly, we were just talking about The Bride

00:31:27.470 –> 00:31:31.430
and it really it’s totally got that vibe to it.

00:31:31.430 –> 00:31:34.130
And I mean, it’s gorgeous. Like it’s shot so

00:31:34.130 –> 00:31:37.349
well and like it really does kind of evoke that

00:31:37.349 –> 00:31:40.710
sort of golden age of universal monster movies,

00:31:40.710 –> 00:31:44.210
you know. Absolutely. It’s a fun video. And I

00:31:44.210 –> 00:31:47.109
really dig the song. Yeah, it’s catchy. And that’s

00:31:47.109 –> 00:31:48.450
I mean, honestly, that’s what makes it right

00:31:48.450 –> 00:31:54.079
when the song compliments it. Oh, cool. All right.

00:31:54.619 –> 00:31:58.240
So Taffeta, what you got for us? All right. I

00:31:58.240 –> 00:32:00.839
guess I’m what? Why don’t you go flip the coin?

00:32:01.099 –> 00:32:05.779
Arm wrestle. Oh, we should arm wrestle. I can

00:32:05.779 –> 00:32:09.380
go last until I get gone last. Fine. Fine. I

00:32:09.380 –> 00:32:12.059
guess I’ll go. So the first one I’m going to

00:32:12.059 –> 00:32:14.420
mention is this is like kind of horror light,

00:32:14.420 –> 00:32:18.640
but you’ll you could see the connection. It’s

00:32:18.640 –> 00:32:22.390
bad for lashes. What’s a girl to do? Which? Just

00:32:22.390 –> 00:32:26.190
I actually liked the song first and then I saw

00:32:26.190 –> 00:32:27.849
the video and it made me like it even more because

00:32:27.849 –> 00:32:32.910
it’s like this is like circa 2013 2012 something

00:32:32.910 –> 00:32:37.329
like that and let me Read the dates for all the

00:32:37.329 –> 00:32:41.910
other ones But basically the video is shot out

00:32:41.910 –> 00:32:43.930
of the back of a car or some kind of you know

00:32:43.930 –> 00:32:48.289
moving vehicle and Back for lashes or forget

00:32:48.289 –> 00:32:53.609
her name The primary woman artist. Anyways, she’s

00:32:53.609 –> 00:32:56.849
riding a BMX bike and singing and doing a little

00:32:56.849 –> 00:32:59.410
light choreography. And then on the choruses,

00:33:00.150 –> 00:33:03.930
these other guys or mysterious people on BMX

00:33:03.930 –> 00:33:06.130
is kind of fan out behind her and they’re all

00:33:06.130 –> 00:33:10.630
wearing like masks and they do the choreography

00:33:10.630 –> 00:33:13.890
with her. And it’s shot with like a basically

00:33:13.890 –> 00:33:17.019
a giant spotlight next to the camera. So. The

00:33:17.019 –> 00:33:19.359
woods and everything they’re on this lone road

00:33:19.359 –> 00:33:22.119
the woods fade into black and it’s just got that

00:33:22.119 –> 00:33:25.980
kind of creepy Vibe to it and it just works with

00:33:25.980 –> 00:33:28.559
the song. I think very well. Yeah. No, I agree

00:33:28.559 –> 00:33:31.119
I had not seen that or heard the song and enjoyed

00:33:31.119 –> 00:33:33.940
both of them. Yeah, I like the the animal masks.

00:33:34.000 –> 00:33:39.079
It’s kind of a It feels a little folk horror

00:33:39.079 –> 00:33:41.920
with a mask. Oh, yeah, but it also feels like

00:33:41.920 –> 00:33:44.319
I don’t know why it reminded me of Donnie Darko

00:33:44.769 –> 00:33:46.569
Don’t know. I don’t even know the bunny rabbit.

00:33:46.589 –> 00:33:48.369
There’s a bunny rabbit mask. Okay, maybe that’s

00:33:48.369 –> 00:33:50.190
it I don’t know if the bike riding is part of

00:33:50.190 –> 00:33:52.289
it, but oh and the bike ready, right? Yeah, but

00:33:52.289 –> 00:33:54.650
yeah It was it’s a cool song and it’s yeah had

00:33:54.650 –> 00:33:56.829
a nice vibe to it It’s such a simple concept

00:33:56.829 –> 00:33:59.269
because literally the whole music video is just

00:33:59.269 –> 00:34:02.089
one take them riding behind the car And it’s

00:34:02.089 –> 00:34:04.609
like a little tiny BMX dance with these spooky

00:34:04.609 –> 00:34:06.930
little characters the synchronized hand claps

00:34:06.930 –> 00:34:08.690
and like yeah little stunts They do on their

00:34:08.690 –> 00:34:11.969
bodies. Yeah is really cool. Yeah. Yeah, totally

00:34:12.730 –> 00:34:16.269
All right, Tabitha, what you got? Tabitha, fuck,

00:34:16.369 –> 00:34:20.449
what is going on? I don’t know. I’m piggybacking

00:34:20.449 –> 00:34:23.630
off the 80s vibe that Peter had earlier, like

00:34:23.630 –> 00:34:25.329
self -control by Laura Branigan was like one

00:34:25.329 –> 00:34:27.590
of my favorites growing up before I even really

00:34:27.590 –> 00:34:29.769
knew why. Like it already kind of I mean, the

00:34:29.769 –> 00:34:31.800
song is like. the chorus like she’s a creature

00:34:31.800 –> 00:34:33.659
of the night. So instantly my little brain was

00:34:33.659 –> 00:34:35.539
like, oh, monsters, you know, but it’s a different

00:34:35.539 –> 00:34:37.820
kind of monster in the sense to where it’s like,

00:34:37.820 –> 00:34:39.500
you know, she’s being stalked by a guy who has

00:34:39.500 –> 00:34:41.420
like a creepy mask on, which is fucking creepy

00:34:41.420 –> 00:34:44.099
in general. Just the older you get, you’re like,

00:34:44.099 –> 00:34:46.480
oh, this is a possibility. So I think maybe that’s

00:34:46.480 –> 00:34:48.699
it’s translated and it’s horror meaning for me

00:34:48.699 –> 00:34:50.760
earlier in my youth. I was like, oh, monsters.

00:34:50.940 –> 00:34:55.880
Now it’s like, oh, the man monster. Sorry. It’s

00:34:55.880 –> 00:34:59.369
a real threat. You know, essentially it was just

00:34:59.369 –> 00:35:01.750
like the allure of the night is what her thing

00:35:01.750 –> 00:35:04.769
is. But you mentioned earlier about how former

00:35:04.769 –> 00:35:07.929
directors, you know, do music videos. And this

00:35:07.929 –> 00:35:10.550
one was done by William Friedkin. Oh, no shit.

00:35:10.570 –> 00:35:12.849
I did not know that. Who had, you know, he’s

00:35:12.849 –> 00:35:14.610
known for being the award winning director of

00:35:14.610 –> 00:35:18.170
The Exorcist. And this was also one of the first

00:35:18.170 –> 00:35:20.389
times that a major Oscar winning director had

00:35:20.389 –> 00:35:22.269
like teamed up for a music video that was still

00:35:22.269 –> 00:35:25.130
considered like, you know, not as like a lesser

00:35:25.130 –> 00:35:29.269
form of, you know, production or whatever. And

00:35:29.269 –> 00:35:30.750
then the other thing I found was that it was

00:35:30.750 –> 00:35:32.710
actually the first music video to be banned by

00:35:32.710 –> 00:35:35.110
a solo artist because it was so like sexual and

00:35:35.110 –> 00:35:38.210
so like into window with that stuff. Which tracks

00:35:38.210 –> 00:35:40.170
for me because like just watching the video and

00:35:40.170 –> 00:35:42.469
just listening to that song, it’s kind of tantric

00:35:42.469 –> 00:35:44.250
in its own like fucking way and it’s just so

00:35:44.250 –> 00:35:46.610
good. But there is still like that mystery of

00:35:46.610 –> 00:35:49.389
like, you know, who’s fucking, you know, I don’t

00:35:49.389 –> 00:35:51.210
know who’s fucking, but like who’s fucking like

00:35:51.210 –> 00:35:56.340
chasing me. In the dark and that’s just something

00:35:56.340 –> 00:35:58.420
that hit with me at an early age. It just just

00:35:58.420 –> 00:36:01.219
all of it together It’s just so I know it’s just

00:36:01.219 –> 00:36:03.860
it’s it’s isoteric and the sense that there’s

00:36:03.860 –> 00:36:06.179
like, you know horror in lot Not knowing I don’t

00:36:06.179 –> 00:36:08.679
know. So that was one of my picks I yeah My take

00:36:08.679 –> 00:36:10.679
on it was I was when I saw the guy the mascot

00:36:10.679 –> 00:36:13.000
made me think of Phantom of the Opera for some

00:36:13.000 –> 00:36:15.820
reason But I exactly I hear what you’re saying.

00:36:15.880 –> 00:36:19.159
I like the hands popping out of the walls And

00:36:19.159 –> 00:36:22.739
I mentioned Dan splinsky his band the vigils

00:36:22.739 –> 00:36:26.349
covers that Nice I love that song so magical

00:36:26.349 –> 00:36:29.849
cool song. Yeah, I really this video to me is

00:36:29.849 –> 00:36:34.349
really cool. It’s like the perfect 80s like the

00:36:34.349 –> 00:36:37.590
cinematography is incredible and it’s like a

00:36:37.590 –> 00:36:40.030
Patrick Nagel print come to life, you know, it’s

00:36:40.030 –> 00:36:43.789
like so good and I don’t know it’s my jam like

00:36:43.789 –> 00:36:45.329
Patrick Nagel is like when I big influence is

00:36:45.329 –> 00:36:48.030
like I love that Essence of the 80s. I want to

00:36:48.030 –> 00:36:51.510
be an ego girl. So totally totally All right,

00:36:51.610 –> 00:36:54.949
Peter. What do you got? We’re back on me. Um,

00:36:55.389 –> 00:36:57.329
let’s see. What should what should I talk about

00:36:57.329 –> 00:37:01.929
next? I’ll talk about the band dead soft in their

00:37:01.929 –> 00:37:05.530
video for step out I believe they’re Canadian

00:37:05.530 –> 00:37:08.110
and it’s it’s interesting because this was new

00:37:08.110 –> 00:37:11.510
to me but I just I was captivated with the video

00:37:11.510 –> 00:37:13.789
the song the music is kind of like Weezer which

00:37:13.789 –> 00:37:19.110
is I Sort of like indie rock slight into punk,

00:37:19.130 –> 00:37:22.860
I guess but the contrast is what I found to be

00:37:22.860 –> 00:37:25.900
captivating. It’s kind of starts out with this

00:37:25.900 –> 00:37:29.639
bucolic and coastal daylight shots that gradually

00:37:29.639 –> 00:37:33.179
get more unsettling, more unsettling, Jesus.

00:37:35.019 –> 00:37:37.260
Basically, it’s a series of vignettes from horror

00:37:37.260 –> 00:37:39.880
movies. Like it feels like, hey, if someone took

00:37:39.880 –> 00:37:43.739
shots from the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, but it

00:37:43.739 –> 00:37:47.639
was in a coastal northwest setting. and kind

00:37:47.639 –> 00:37:51.179
of put it together so you have the singers blindfolded

00:37:51.179 –> 00:37:54.219
on the ground awaiting his fate there’s a silhouette

00:37:54.219 –> 00:37:56.780
and a guy with a hat on a rocky shore approaching

00:37:56.780 –> 00:37:59.659
a couple then it’s a cut to the rock on the ground

00:37:59.659 –> 00:38:02.519
as if he struck them someone falling into the

00:38:02.519 –> 00:38:06.239
ocean more shots of town weirdos than night close

00:38:06.239 –> 00:38:09.219
-up of the singers bloody mouth singing a man

00:38:09.219 –> 00:38:12.619
in a white executioner mask with a pickaxe approaching

00:38:12.619 –> 00:38:18.400
the camera through a barn Bloody buzz saws So

00:38:18.400 –> 00:38:20.639
it’s just kind of this uneasy escalation of events

00:38:20.639 –> 00:38:22.539
that feel like yeah They were lifted from the

00:38:22.539 –> 00:38:25.400
texas chainsaw massacre. It was somewhere else

00:38:25.400 –> 00:38:28.019
Yeah, and you know part of that. It’s is the

00:38:28.019 –> 00:38:30.619
it looks it’s probably shot in film It’s hard

00:38:30.619 –> 00:38:32.679
to tell 100 % because you can fake it really

00:38:32.679 –> 00:38:34.800
well now, but I think that gives it that vibe

00:38:34.800 –> 00:38:39.539
too Is that 16 mil like yeah grainy? Yeah, and

00:38:39.539 –> 00:38:42.159
you know you get a lot of that type of look in

00:38:42.159 –> 00:38:45.469
these types of music videos, too, right? So yeah,

00:38:45.550 –> 00:38:47.849
it was it was a pleasant surprise because I never

00:38:47.849 –> 00:38:49.929
knew about that. Yeah, it looks great. Definitely

00:38:49.929 –> 00:38:53.170
evokes the like 70s and has like, you know, kind

00:38:53.170 –> 00:38:55.610
of the occult tarot card thing going on. I love

00:38:55.610 –> 00:39:00.869
the tarot card usage. All right. And for me,

00:39:01.170 –> 00:39:07.070
my next one is going to be Woodkid, Run Boy Run,

00:39:07.090 –> 00:39:10.449
which is also not strictly speaking horror in

00:39:10.449 –> 00:39:12.090
the traditional sense, but I kind of broadened

00:39:12.090 –> 00:39:14.920
a little bit to be. this is like fantasy horror

00:39:14.920 –> 00:39:17.179
kind of like from a perspective of a little boy

00:39:17.179 –> 00:39:20.679
and maybe I part of why it resonates with me

00:39:20.679 –> 00:39:22.320
at this particular moment is you know, cuz I

00:39:22.320 –> 00:39:25.159
have a two -year -old was gonna be two in like

00:39:25.159 –> 00:39:27.940
a couple weeks and You know, you kind of when

00:39:27.940 –> 00:39:29.480
you have a kid it you start looking at the world

00:39:29.480 –> 00:39:32.059
again like, you know He kind of reminds you of

00:39:32.059 –> 00:39:33.900
like what it was like to be a kid and what I

00:39:33.900 –> 00:39:37.139
like about this music video is it’s also beautifully

00:39:37.139 –> 00:39:39.960
shot black and white I think primarily shot on

00:39:39.960 –> 00:39:42.559
a soundstage, but it’s Made to look like it’s

00:39:42.559 –> 00:39:44.679
out in the wilderness and you have these kind

00:39:44.679 –> 00:39:46.820
of this kid just running and you don’t know why

00:39:46.820 –> 00:39:50.079
he’s running and the music Is like kind of perfect

00:39:50.079 –> 00:39:51.900
for this I mean everyone who’s listening has

00:39:51.900 –> 00:39:53.980
probably heard this song like it’s really obviously

00:39:53.980 –> 00:39:57.460
really big song and But if you haven’t seen a

00:39:57.460 –> 00:39:58.800
music video you absolutely should because it’s

00:39:58.800 –> 00:40:01.400
like I can’t think of a better music video for

00:40:01.400 –> 00:40:03.639
the song So but it’s about this kid and he’s

00:40:03.639 –> 00:40:05.260
like running and you don’t know why he’s running

00:40:05.260 –> 00:40:06.960
and all of a sudden these like monsters jump

00:40:06.960 –> 00:40:11.230
out and a lot of this is in slow motion and the

00:40:11.230 –> 00:40:14.889
monsters you think they’re chasing him and then

00:40:14.889 –> 00:40:17.610
by the end of the music video at the like the

00:40:17.610 –> 00:40:19.769
bridge and all that he like the monster picks

00:40:19.769 –> 00:40:21.349
up the boy and you realize that you’re trying

00:40:21.349 –> 00:40:24.469
to like save him and it just kind of the theme

00:40:24.469 –> 00:40:27.429
of it you know it’s like you know when you’re

00:40:27.429 –> 00:40:29.210
a kid it’s like you you’re scared of a lot of

00:40:29.210 –> 00:40:31.449
things but sometimes those things actually are

00:40:31.449 –> 00:40:33.929
there to help you or like you know i just like

00:40:33.929 –> 00:40:35.710
that twist it’s like hard to put a twist in a

00:40:35.710 –> 00:40:38.610
music video but they they nailed it It reminded

00:40:38.610 –> 00:40:41.489
me of and I had never heard the song. I don’t

00:40:41.489 –> 00:40:43.210
know like maybe I just don’t listen to the radio

00:40:43.210 –> 00:40:45.110
or something Well, it’s not your genre. That’s

00:40:45.110 –> 00:40:48.250
for sure But it reminded me of kind of like an

00:40:48.250 –> 00:40:50.590
homage to where the wild things are like that.

00:40:50.590 –> 00:40:53.969
That was my reaction to it Yeah, very cinematic.

00:40:53.969 –> 00:40:56.070
I liked how it looked for sure Yeah, the monsters

00:40:56.070 –> 00:40:58.030
are basically like kind of like the monsters

00:40:58.030 –> 00:41:00.110
from the where the wild things are But wasn’t

00:41:00.110 –> 00:41:02.170
was he wearing a crown to or my imagining? Yeah,

00:41:02.170 –> 00:41:04.630
I think so I mean, there’s some imagery going

00:41:04.630 –> 00:41:06.960
in there that maybe goes over my head You know,

00:41:07.000 –> 00:41:09.860
because I think the wood kit as a project. I’m

00:41:09.860 –> 00:41:11.900
not mistaken. I’m not like a huge fan, so I don’t

00:41:11.900 –> 00:41:13.619
know a lot about it. But I think I remember hearing

00:41:13.619 –> 00:41:16.340
that. It’s kind of like an art project where

00:41:16.340 –> 00:41:22.280
there’s like a whole like ontology story behind,

00:41:22.280 –> 00:41:26.300
you know, the like the songs and the like lyrics

00:41:26.300 –> 00:41:28.000
and stuff. But I’m not 100 percent. Don’t quote

00:41:28.000 –> 00:41:33.440
me on that. So Taffeta, what you got? You’re

00:41:33.440 –> 00:41:35.380
gonna keep calling my name all day. Just don’t

00:41:35.380 –> 00:41:37.420
say my name. Just don’t say my name. It’s fine.

00:41:38.500 –> 00:41:40.679
You can just point. Just point. If you call her

00:41:40.679 –> 00:41:43.739
Taff, then you’ll… Unless you call her Tab.

00:41:44.099 –> 00:41:45.940
Well, I think it’s because we were having that

00:41:45.940 –> 00:41:48.500
conversation before we recorded with Cathy and

00:41:48.500 –> 00:41:50.460
the like, whatever. So now I’m just like going

00:41:50.460 –> 00:41:52.000
through my library. Yeah, because you said the

00:41:52.000 –> 00:41:55.159
wrong name then too. Did I? I think so. What?

00:41:55.320 –> 00:41:58.840
Did I say Tab at the end too? Listen, listen.

00:41:59.159 –> 00:42:01.960
It’s a thing. It’s fine. The real horror is getting

00:42:01.960 –> 00:42:06.820
old. That is the real horror. I kind of stuck

00:42:06.820 –> 00:42:08.739
with the same 80s, you know, because these were

00:42:08.739 –> 00:42:11.239
songs that were formative for me. And I went

00:42:11.239 –> 00:42:14.260
with Rockwell’s Somebody’s Watching Me again

00:42:14.260 –> 00:42:17.139
with like, you know, that voyeurism, that mystique

00:42:17.139 –> 00:42:19.199
and that esoteric, you know, OK, like in this

00:42:19.199 –> 00:42:20.559
time, I guess it’s from like, you know, the other

00:42:20.559 –> 00:42:22.179
point of view instead of like Laura’s now we’ve

00:42:22.179 –> 00:42:25.219
got Rockwell’s. And I just thought, you know,

00:42:25.280 –> 00:42:26.679
I just remember thinking that was just really

00:42:26.679 –> 00:42:28.280
creepy back in the day. I don’t know. Maybe I

00:42:28.280 –> 00:42:29.619
was stalked in when I was younger and I didn’t

00:42:29.619 –> 00:42:31.519
know that these and now I’m having all these

00:42:31.519 –> 00:42:33.599
videos that scare me as people being stalked.

00:42:33.719 –> 00:42:36.780
Maybe you stalk someone. Maybe I have been stalked

00:42:36.780 –> 00:42:38.480
actually in my in my later years. And that is

00:42:38.480 –> 00:42:40.159
quite creepy. So maybe that’s what still resonates

00:42:40.159 –> 00:42:45.519
with me. See, this one’s interesting because

00:42:45.519 –> 00:42:48.260
it’s kind of got a VHS look to it. It does. It

00:42:48.260 –> 00:42:49.840
does. And it’s got a lot of like, you know, history

00:42:49.840 –> 00:42:51.260
in the background, because I guess like the actual

00:42:51.260 –> 00:42:54.059
singer. Rockwell is Kennedy William Gordy, who

00:42:54.059 –> 00:42:56.440
is the son of Motown fan, founder Barry Gordy.

00:42:56.500 –> 00:42:57.639
And so that’s how they were able to get like

00:42:57.639 –> 00:42:59.719
all the Jackson five, Michael and Durene, I guess,

00:42:59.820 –> 00:43:01.760
from like the five, two of them, Michael and

00:43:01.760 –> 00:43:04.139
Jermaine, who did the background vocals and stuff.

00:43:04.139 –> 00:43:06.219
And I guess the lyrical inspiration in line about

00:43:06.219 –> 00:43:08.980
being afraid to wash one’s hair. I guess it was

00:43:08.980 –> 00:43:10.340
some prank he used to play on his girlfriend.

00:43:10.659 –> 00:43:13.380
So. I don’t know how that makes it really scary,

00:43:13.380 –> 00:43:15.139
but it was just one of those videos that just

00:43:15.139 –> 00:43:17.659
kind of stuck with me. It was also kind of ominous.

00:43:17.920 –> 00:43:20.000
Totally. Well, it’s got the POV, right? Like

00:43:20.000 –> 00:43:22.880
the cameras following Rockwell. Like you’re the

00:43:22.880 –> 00:43:24.699
stalker in that video. Maybe that’s it. Yeah.

00:43:24.699 –> 00:43:27.739
Yeah, cool. And there’s like fun little details.

00:43:28.039 –> 00:43:31.380
Like he turned the shower is dripping blood instead

00:43:31.380 –> 00:43:33.559
of water and things like that that I noticed

00:43:33.559 –> 00:43:37.239
that I hadn’t before. Fun fact, Rockwell has

00:43:37.239 –> 00:43:40.090
a song called Peeping Tom also touched. That’s

00:43:40.090 –> 00:43:42.730
from The Last Dragon. So it’s also kind of about

00:43:42.730 –> 00:43:46.389
like this paranoia. And I mentioned Dan, Daniel

00:43:46.389 –> 00:43:49.829
Sapulinski. He knows Rockwell. Oh, wow. He took

00:43:49.829 –> 00:43:52.849
him to an 80s night and they played that like

00:43:52.849 –> 00:43:55.670
unexpectedly. How fun. Kind of made his night.

00:43:56.150 –> 00:43:58.570
Yeah, that’s great. And the way it shot, it shot

00:43:58.570 –> 00:44:00.889
kind of like almost like Hitchcock it. Yeah.

00:44:00.949 –> 00:44:02.750
You know, the point of view and, you know, you

00:44:02.750 –> 00:44:04.630
actually be in like, you know, the stock or whatever.

00:44:04.650 –> 00:44:06.829
And I think that also just kind of adds to it.

00:44:07.050 –> 00:44:09.900
It’s funny. Like spook. We’re talking about these,

00:44:10.039 –> 00:44:12.159
you know, what this made like 50 years ago now

00:44:12.159 –> 00:44:15.980
or almost. Oh, God. Not quite that long, but,

00:44:16.119 –> 00:44:19.179
you know, but, you know, it’s funny because I

00:44:19.179 –> 00:44:22.260
comment as I get the VHS look and it does. But

00:44:22.260 –> 00:44:25.119
the funny thing is, is that that was just, you

00:44:25.119 –> 00:44:27.159
know, how it looked then. Yeah. But like now

00:44:27.159 –> 00:44:29.159
we get the benefit of looking back and a lot

00:44:29.159 –> 00:44:32.880
of our ideas of what. Horror imagery is it’s

00:44:32.880 –> 00:44:35.019
like this found footage kind of like VHS look

00:44:35.019 –> 00:44:37.579
and so yeah, it’s like it only got better with

00:44:37.579 –> 00:44:40.000
time It’s like wine. Yeah. Yeah. What did you

00:44:40.000 –> 00:44:42.039
like when I remember hearing that as a little

00:44:42.039 –> 00:44:44.400
kid? I’m like that sounds like Michael Jackson,

00:44:44.539 –> 00:44:46.840
but that he’s not singing the other part. So

00:44:46.840 –> 00:44:50.820
yeah Yeah, I totally did and it wasn’t yeah until

00:44:50.820 –> 00:44:52.679
later on. I was like, oh it is It’s also like

00:44:52.679 –> 00:44:55.139
his appearance on the Simpsons If you don’t know

00:44:55.139 –> 00:44:57.420
the hook people if you’re like, what song is

00:44:57.420 –> 00:44:59.420
this? It’s Michael Jackson sings the hook and

00:44:59.420 –> 00:45:03.079
it’s a very catchy Hook and it’s got a cool the

00:45:03.079 –> 00:45:05.380
organ, you know, the yeah again the organ adds

00:45:05.380 –> 00:45:08.800
to that that that that era of you know Phantom

00:45:08.800 –> 00:45:11.079
of the opera right right and it’s probably a

00:45:11.079 –> 00:45:13.159
good time to mention that You know, we’re not

00:45:13.159 –> 00:45:15.699
really playing them for a number of reasons right

00:45:15.699 –> 00:45:19.380
now But mostly for time but also just for copyright

00:45:19.380 –> 00:45:22.099
reasons, right? Yeah, so go to our website We’re

00:45:22.099 –> 00:45:24.239
gonna link to all of these and in the show notes

00:45:24.239 –> 00:45:27.500
and you can see what we’re talking about All

00:45:27.500 –> 00:45:30.409
right, Peter. What’s your next one? All right,

00:45:30.409 –> 00:45:34.849
so this one takes us to 1992 and part of the

00:45:34.849 –> 00:45:37.030
reason that I think this is very interesting

00:45:37.030 –> 00:45:40.829
is because I was a fan of the band around then.

00:45:40.829 –> 00:45:43.150
I’m talking about Nine Inch Nails and people

00:45:43.150 –> 00:45:45.750
look at like closer and think you know all right

00:45:45.750 –> 00:45:48.349
that’s kind of horror but it’s really the whole

00:45:48.349 –> 00:45:50.710
and this is a cheat but it’s the broken movie

00:45:50.710 –> 00:45:55.050
because it was banned or it just was not released

00:45:55.050 –> 00:45:57.369
or kind of a combination thereof but it was storied

00:45:57.369 –> 00:46:00.260
like you’re like the wish video that Nine Inch

00:46:00.260 –> 00:46:03.380
Nails had was out and the beginning of this was

00:46:03.380 –> 00:46:06.360
used for Alternative Nation. But there was, I

00:46:06.360 –> 00:46:08.260
just remember hearing about it. So I did not

00:46:08.260 –> 00:46:11.199
see this until like 10 years ago when I was shocked

00:46:11.199 –> 00:46:13.920
at how rough this was. I was like, holy fuck.

00:46:14.039 –> 00:46:16.019
I saw it in high school, actually. I wish I did.

00:46:16.239 –> 00:46:18.300
Well, I knew someone in my school was like a

00:46:18.300 –> 00:46:20.659
big Nine Inch Nails fan and had like a secret

00:46:20.659 –> 00:46:24.840
copy of it. Yeah. And so this has some wild backstory.

00:46:25.119 –> 00:46:27.199
If you’re not familiar with Nine Inch Nails.

00:46:27.719 –> 00:46:30.619
Music is I mean, how could you you have to be

00:46:30.619 –> 00:46:35.260
I feel like But broken was a Trent Reznor’s response

00:46:35.260 –> 00:46:37.619
to the record label. I think he’s really pissed

00:46:37.619 –> 00:46:41.260
off. So it’s a pissed off EP. It’s great It’s

00:46:41.260 –> 00:46:45.119
my favorite thing that he’s done, too And so

00:46:45.119 –> 00:46:47.260
he decided to take some of that money and make

00:46:47.260 –> 00:46:49.679
this that couldn’t be released and I think he

00:46:49.679 –> 00:46:53.179
felt like it it went a little overboard And maybe

00:46:53.179 –> 00:46:56.179
it did but basically it’s not all the tracks

00:46:56.179 –> 00:46:59.239
off of it But it’s pretty bleak and disturbing.

00:46:59.659 –> 00:47:02.380
It’s about 20 minutes long. I don’t want to spoil

00:47:02.380 –> 00:47:05.039
everything. But it’s basically like Nine Inch

00:47:05.039 –> 00:47:09.420
Nails made this stuff snuff film where a guy’s

00:47:09.420 –> 00:47:12.719
getting tortured in very harrowing ways and the

00:47:12.719 –> 00:47:16.300
TV’s playing, you know, his music videos in between

00:47:16.300 –> 00:47:19.300
these sequences. And then there’s a hanging of

00:47:19.300 –> 00:47:23.760
an individual. It’s all in black and white. And

00:47:23.760 –> 00:47:27.280
yeah, it’s graphic. It’s unsettling. People when

00:47:27.280 –> 00:47:30.679
they saw a copy of this or rumored to question

00:47:30.679 –> 00:47:34.079
if this was authentic. And I remember that rumor.

00:47:34.179 –> 00:47:35.940
That was that was what was going around. Yeah.

00:47:35.940 –> 00:47:40.320
And then Peter Christopherson of the band Throbbing

00:47:40.320 –> 00:47:41.920
Gristle was the one who compiled it. There’s

00:47:41.920 –> 00:47:44.320
a couple of directors who did different videos.

00:47:45.300 –> 00:47:48.940
But yeah. And Trent Reznor, I think, was also

00:47:48.940 –> 00:47:51.599
concerned that this would overshadow the music

00:47:51.599 –> 00:47:54.860
if it got out. So I think he made copies for

00:47:54.860 –> 00:47:57.840
friends. It was a simpler time back then. But

00:47:57.840 –> 00:48:00.300
it’s it also, you know, created all this lore.

00:48:01.159 –> 00:48:03.480
And I mean, I will say like what I found the

00:48:03.480 –> 00:48:05.719
most disturbing is one of the earlier videos,

00:48:05.739 –> 00:48:07.880
I think it’s for Pinyon, which was used for one

00:48:07.880 –> 00:48:09.780
hundred and twenty minutes. Sorry. Alternative

00:48:09.780 –> 00:48:12.340
Nation, where it’s like black and white and you

00:48:12.340 –> 00:48:15.579
see a toilet flush and there’s some black substance.

00:48:15.920 –> 00:48:17.940
Use your imagination what that is. You kind of

00:48:17.940 –> 00:48:19.739
follow it through the tubing, which I think is

00:48:19.739 –> 00:48:22.239
transparent for the shot. And it’s an instrumental

00:48:22.239 –> 00:48:24.760
track that just kind of gets louder and louder.

00:48:24.969 –> 00:48:28.610
And it goes into feeds into a guy’s mask. It’s

00:48:28.610 –> 00:48:31.429
like a S &M bondage mask. He’s kind of tied up

00:48:31.429 –> 00:48:34.989
and it’s feeding him shit. He’s being force fed

00:48:34.989 –> 00:48:37.829
feces and he’s thrashing around and it’s just

00:48:37.829 –> 00:48:40.369
fucking shocking. Even even to me now. It is

00:48:40.369 –> 00:48:43.329
very it is very shocking even to this day. I

00:48:43.329 –> 00:48:45.590
think what makes it so effective is like, I mean,

00:48:45.630 –> 00:48:48.010
this was the 90s, but this is basically kind

00:48:48.010 –> 00:48:51.090
of like a found footage piece. And it’s a realism.

00:48:51.710 –> 00:48:56.670
Yeah. It just goes to show you how how impactful

00:48:56.670 –> 00:48:59.909
horror imagery can be. You can get things banned.

00:49:00.230 –> 00:49:02.550
And all the videos are like different too, that

00:49:02.550 –> 00:49:04.210
are shown. Well, and it’s, you know, it’s wading

00:49:04.210 –> 00:49:08.210
into the taboo. You know, like particularly nowadays,

00:49:08.230 –> 00:49:09.909
like feels like nothing’s taboo anymore. But

00:49:09.909 –> 00:49:12.269
back then, you know, it was very taboo. Well,

00:49:12.289 –> 00:49:14.090
that’s what shocked me is like, I saw it like

00:49:14.090 –> 00:49:16.789
10 years ago. I was like, Jesus Christ. And I’ve

00:49:16.789 –> 00:49:19.429
seen much like considerably worse things than

00:49:19.429 –> 00:49:21.869
this. Yeah, yeah. I mean, if Peter’s taken aback,

00:49:21.949 –> 00:49:26.260
you never know. Right on I guess I’m up to bat

00:49:26.260 –> 00:49:32.099
and I wanted to talk about So this artist I think

00:49:32.099 –> 00:49:33.920
it might even be two artists collaborating I

00:49:33.920 –> 00:49:35.300
know very little about him which is hilarious

00:49:35.300 –> 00:49:37.099
because I actually liked the song before I saw

00:49:37.099 –> 00:49:42.320
the video But it’s zoo zhu and Nero or zoo Nero

00:49:42.320 –> 00:49:44.760
might be it just I don’t know I think kind of

00:49:44.760 –> 00:49:47.380
like See, I’m gonna I’m gonna embarrass myself

00:49:47.380 –> 00:49:49.739
for the people who know them out there or no

00:49:49.739 –> 00:49:54.059
or Him I don’t know. It could be a DJ could be

00:49:54.059 –> 00:49:57.639
an artist. That song is great though, because

00:49:57.639 –> 00:50:02.559
there’s no vocals really. And the song is called

00:50:02.559 –> 00:50:05.800
Dreams and it’s from, it’s in 2017 and the video

00:50:05.800 –> 00:50:07.980
is directed by Elliot Sellers and Eric Ferguson.

00:50:08.380 –> 00:50:12.880
And I was really stoked to see the video because

00:50:12.880 –> 00:50:16.119
I don’t know, I think it’s a really kind of cool

00:50:16.119 –> 00:50:20.300
concept. It’s like all of these CGI naked people

00:50:20.300 –> 00:50:23.980
in like a pile. They’re like dancing and then

00:50:23.980 –> 00:50:25.159
they get thrown up in the air and they end up

00:50:25.159 –> 00:50:27.500
in a big pile and like it’s just kind of hard

00:50:27.500 –> 00:50:30.260
to explain But what if you see it? It just looks

00:50:30.260 –> 00:50:32.539
cool a lot of like flashing lights and the dancing

00:50:32.539 –> 00:50:34.519
is like it’s like uncanny valley like the way

00:50:34.519 –> 00:50:36.559
they move their bodies and stuff which is just

00:50:36.559 –> 00:50:39.099
creepy and unsettling because of that alone,

00:50:39.159 –> 00:50:41.400
but you know when you pair with the music and

00:50:41.400 –> 00:50:44.539
the lighting and the you know the piles of these

00:50:44.539 –> 00:50:47.280
people in the end it’s like, you know, it’s it’s

00:50:47.280 –> 00:50:50.260
kind of got a Very weird and it’s in there. I

00:50:50.260 –> 00:50:53.820
should mention super Not safe for work because

00:50:53.820 –> 00:50:57.420
everybody’s naked naked They’re all CGI, but

00:50:57.420 –> 00:50:59.239
they’re naked there a lot of naked people. Oh,

00:50:59.280 –> 00:51:01.219
I should have that disclaimer for the nine -inch

00:51:01.219 –> 00:51:03.840
nails Yeah, there’s some nudity in the nine -inch

00:51:03.840 –> 00:51:06.960
nails video as well. I guess But yeah, did you

00:51:06.960 –> 00:51:08.579
guys what’d you guys think? Did you see it? So

00:51:08.579 –> 00:51:11.360
the the all the bodies it that actually reminded

00:51:11.360 –> 00:51:15.300
me of that shot Jeepers creepers Where there’s

00:51:15.300 –> 00:51:17.900
all these body like I wonder if that imagery

00:51:17.900 –> 00:51:19.699
was where they got the idea though. It’s very

00:51:19.699 –> 00:51:22.869
different A devil’s advocate for me, too, whenever,

00:51:22.869 –> 00:51:24.309
like, Puccino’s doing that whole thing with the

00:51:24.309 –> 00:51:25.849
red behind him, and, like, he’s got all these

00:51:25.849 –> 00:51:27.570
souls and bodies, like, all around him, and he’s

00:51:27.570 –> 00:51:32.050
like, I’m gonna be with me. No? I was like, oh,

00:51:32.250 –> 00:51:34.369
that’s where my mind went, but yes. No, no, that

00:51:34.369 –> 00:51:36.849
makes… Yeah, it’s good. I think that’s, like,

00:51:36.849 –> 00:51:39.329
kind of a Dante’s Inferno, like, going back to,

00:51:39.329 –> 00:51:41.769
you know, the middle century, the idea of hell,

00:51:41.849 –> 00:51:44.010
all these, like, thrashing… The original horror.

00:51:44.710 –> 00:51:47.550
…bodies in pain, you know? Yeah, yeah. It’s

00:51:47.550 –> 00:51:50.030
a cool video. Yeah, I found it pretty captivating.

00:51:50.210 –> 00:51:53.809
Yeah. And the music’s just kind of driving and

00:51:53.809 –> 00:51:56.769
like, like kind of a dark dance thing. And so

00:51:56.769 –> 00:52:01.570
you got these weird disembodied zombie CGI in

00:52:01.570 –> 00:52:06.050
County Valley things just dancing. Antaphida,

00:52:06.050 –> 00:52:10.210
you’re up. Well, my next couple are just kind

00:52:10.210 –> 00:52:11.710
of like, you know, maybe stretches or whatever,

00:52:11.730 –> 00:52:14.550
but also happy International Women’s Day and

00:52:14.550 –> 00:52:17.750
the next. artist I have is Miraker, who I fucking

00:52:17.750 –> 00:52:21.090
love. And she’s like this, you know, Nordic pagan

00:52:21.090 –> 00:52:24.090
black metal singer. And I found her like years

00:52:24.090 –> 00:52:26.869
ago and just fell in love with her. And this

00:52:26.869 –> 00:52:28.570
video from Mothlike, it’s pretty creepy. It’s

00:52:28.570 –> 00:52:30.190
kind of haunting. It’s like in the black and

00:52:30.190 –> 00:52:31.829
black and white a little bit. And it’s in the

00:52:31.829 –> 00:52:33.530
woods. And there’s all these like, you know,

00:52:33.650 –> 00:52:35.469
witches or whatever. And without really knowing

00:52:35.469 –> 00:52:36.929
the language, because it is saying like, you

00:52:36.929 –> 00:52:39.510
know, I think in her native language was like,

00:52:39.510 –> 00:52:41.030
maybe Finnish. I don’t know. I can’t think of

00:52:41.030 –> 00:52:43.530
that right now. But essentially it’s more about

00:52:43.530 –> 00:52:45.349
like transformation and like letting go of like

00:52:45.349 –> 00:52:47.929
the past and like moving on from like the horrors

00:52:47.929 –> 00:52:50.010
of like what you were and going forward and stuff.

00:52:50.130 –> 00:52:52.590
So it’s not like like super horror, like as far

00:52:52.590 –> 00:52:54.570
as like the theme goes. I think I’m hitting something,

00:52:54.570 –> 00:52:59.050
sorry. But I think the imagery of just like,

00:52:59.050 –> 00:53:00.989
you know, the way she’s presenting her transformation

00:53:00.989 –> 00:53:03.349
is is pretty alluring, but also so kind of like,

00:53:03.429 –> 00:53:05.829
you know, it’s it’s got some mystique to it.

00:53:05.849 –> 00:53:08.289
And I think if. Anyone’s just watching you’re

00:53:08.289 –> 00:53:09.809
like, holy shit There’s like some rituals going

00:53:09.809 –> 00:53:11.389
out with these witches in the woods and that’s

00:53:11.389 –> 00:53:14.550
always fucking hot and amazing. So This they’re

00:53:14.550 –> 00:53:17.070
wearing the blindfolds, right? Yeah, so my take

00:53:17.070 –> 00:53:19.730
on that Well, first of all, I was surprised when

00:53:19.730 –> 00:53:22.010
I heard it because it was released on relapse.

00:53:22.250 –> 00:53:25.469
Yeah, and I think of like grind core No, I think

00:53:25.469 –> 00:53:28.289
they I think they’ve broadened what they release

00:53:28.289 –> 00:53:30.769
was recorded in a secret Ross’s studio out in

00:53:30.769 –> 00:53:32.949
Iceland, which is random, too Yeah, are you sure

00:53:32.949 –> 00:53:35.760
they’re not Icelandic? I guess they are Icelandic.

00:53:36.519 –> 00:53:38.380
You know, I don’t know. That’s kind of where

00:53:38.380 –> 00:53:40.860
my mind went. Either that or like, you know,

00:53:40.860 –> 00:53:43.420
Norwegian or Danish or something. Yeah, Nordic.

00:53:43.500 –> 00:53:46.900
Yeah, it is Danish. But what I’ll say is my interpretation

00:53:46.900 –> 00:53:50.239
of it was all these people wearing blindfolds

00:53:50.239 –> 00:53:51.880
and they’re gathered around her and at the end

00:53:51.880 –> 00:53:53.980
they take their blindfold off. And I was like,

00:53:54.239 –> 00:53:59.119
is that commenting on like the cave kind of know

00:53:59.119 –> 00:54:01.980
that if you’re like blind, blindfolded, you’re

00:54:01.980 –> 00:54:04.829
following someone blindly. And then she has him

00:54:04.829 –> 00:54:06.889
take it off. So it felt like there was a positive

00:54:06.889 –> 00:54:10.170
message to it. You know, like everyone’s following

00:54:10.170 –> 00:54:13.090
someone and then it becomes liberated from it.

00:54:13.570 –> 00:54:16.710
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I bet you if you spoke Danish,

00:54:17.050 –> 00:54:19.909
I would know what would it also kind of remind

00:54:19.909 –> 00:54:21.809
me of Bird Box, because that’s also like, oh,

00:54:22.070 –> 00:54:24.030
yeah, the blindfold. Yeah. I think mainly like

00:54:24.030 –> 00:54:26.190
it’s got just a it is a positive message essentially

00:54:26.190 –> 00:54:27.909
it’s just like her transformation like you know

00:54:27.909 –> 00:54:30.150
everyone’s blinded to like who she’d been you

00:54:30.150 –> 00:54:31.710
know and then finally she’s like made this big

00:54:31.710 –> 00:54:33.289
transformation which is kind of like the moth

00:54:33.289 –> 00:54:35.110
you know like she’s like this huge you know creature

00:54:35.110 –> 00:54:36.750
and people are actually seeing her for who she

00:54:36.750 –> 00:54:39.849
is yeah well as a the local cinematography nerd

00:54:39.849 –> 00:54:44.269
here i just loved a super wide anamorphic uh

00:54:44.269 –> 00:54:47.449
way they shot it’s like very cinematic yeah and

00:54:47.449 –> 00:54:49.289
the the way it looked kind of looks like the

00:54:49.289 –> 00:54:52.980
movie the witch a little bit yeah just the kind

00:54:52.980 –> 00:54:56.940
of gothic woods, the barren trees and all that

00:54:56.940 –> 00:54:58.960
type of stuff. Totally. Totally. And, you know,

00:54:59.000 –> 00:55:02.579
a lot of Scandinavian countries are big on kind

00:55:02.579 –> 00:55:05.639
of folk stuff and it’s kind of very folk. That’s

00:55:05.639 –> 00:55:07.900
where I tend to lean too. So I like that juxtaposition

00:55:07.900 –> 00:55:10.320
while it does look, you know, kind of like folklore,

00:55:10.639 –> 00:55:12.420
like, you know, scary. There is like a really

00:55:12.420 –> 00:55:14.860
good message to it if you, you know, if you if

00:55:14.860 –> 00:55:18.619
you translate it. Right. Right. All right, Peter.

00:55:19.360 –> 00:55:23.360
Okay, so I’m gonna jump back to the 80s for this

00:55:23.360 –> 00:55:30.579
one. This song was parodied by Weird Al. I lost

00:55:30.579 –> 00:55:33.440
on Jeopardy, was his take on this. So I’m referring

00:55:33.440 –> 00:55:38.500
to the Greg Kin band, Jeopardy? I think it’s

00:55:38.500 –> 00:55:42.679
just called Jeopardy. And I chose it because

00:55:42.679 –> 00:55:45.880
it’s so unassuming. I mean, it’s a low budget

00:55:45.880 –> 00:55:51.989
video. Greg plays the, not bride to be, but the

00:55:51.989 –> 00:55:55.889
groom to be, going into a chapel, it’s packed.

00:55:57.429 –> 00:55:59.989
I think the video’s about kind of the anxiety

00:55:59.989 –> 00:56:01.630
of getting married, because all of a sudden he

00:56:01.630 –> 00:56:05.030
looks and a couple in the crowd are handcuffed,

00:56:05.409 –> 00:56:08.590
and then there’s a couple weirdos in there, and

00:56:08.590 –> 00:56:10.670
then he takes off the veil of the bride, and

00:56:10.670 –> 00:56:12.510
she turns into a zombie, and then everyone’s

00:56:12.510 –> 00:56:15.110
a zombie, and he’s trying to escape. And so it’s

00:56:15.110 –> 00:56:16.710
like, you’re like, where the fuck did this come

00:56:16.710 –> 00:56:19.789
from? Because the music’s all like this this

00:56:19.789 –> 00:56:23.590
disco beat power pop song. Yeah. It’s the like

00:56:23.590 –> 00:56:27.769
kind of slightly low budge effects. Yeah. The

00:56:27.769 –> 00:56:30.230
flashes. Yeah, it’s it’s I mean, it’s like if

00:56:30.230 –> 00:56:31.769
you were a little kid watching it, you’d pick

00:56:31.769 –> 00:56:34.610
up on how low budget all the like monster stuff

00:56:34.610 –> 00:56:37.309
is. But it makes it kind of endearing. Totally.

00:56:37.369 –> 00:56:39.210
And, you know, it might be the right tone, you

00:56:39.210 –> 00:56:41.170
know, for the right song, because, you know,

00:56:41.170 –> 00:56:44.969
not all of these songs are Gary sounding song.

00:56:44.989 –> 00:56:48.230
So like you kind of want some horror comedy aspect.

00:56:49.610 –> 00:56:51.670
Right. Yeah. No, it’s just kind of a fun like

00:56:51.670 –> 00:56:54.389
because I’d heard this song for years. It’s not

00:56:54.389 –> 00:56:56.610
a song I would think about that much. But then

00:56:56.610 –> 00:56:58.929
one day I stumbled across a video and I was like,

00:56:59.269 –> 00:57:01.010
what the fuck? This is the last thing I would

00:57:01.010 –> 00:57:06.949
ever expect for this song. Nice. Nice. Yeah.

00:57:07.030 –> 00:57:11.329
So for my next one, I chose A fix twin song called

00:57:11.329 –> 00:57:13.070
come to daddy, which a lot of people out there

00:57:13.070 –> 00:57:16.610
might be familiar with And this one is another

00:57:16.610 –> 00:57:19.650
one of those like I mean it it’s not nearly as

00:57:19.650 –> 00:57:21.730
much as the last one I was discussing with the

00:57:21.730 –> 00:57:23.469
the pile of bodies, but there is some kind of

00:57:23.469 –> 00:57:28.150
like weird But body horror kind of stuff going

00:57:28.150 –> 00:57:32.170
on in this one, too But it’s a it’s it’s really

00:57:32.170 –> 00:57:35.789
I mean A fix twin does great videos. Let’s just

00:57:35.789 –> 00:57:38.900
say choice of weapons like They’re just known

00:57:38.900 –> 00:57:40.780
for amazing videos and this is no exception.

00:57:41.199 –> 00:57:43.599
I love the like way that they use the tv, you

00:57:43.599 –> 00:57:46.380
know the guy holding it and then the weird creepy

00:57:46.380 –> 00:57:49.179
faces of those like I mean, they’re not really

00:57:49.179 –> 00:57:51.099
little people, but they’re kind of little people

00:57:51.099 –> 00:57:53.199
that are like chasing them and stuff. I don’t

00:57:53.199 –> 00:57:56.199
know. I don’t I don’t have a lot to say um Other

00:57:56.199 –> 00:57:57.820
than it’s just really cool and people should

00:57:57.820 –> 00:58:00.619
check it out Yeah, and the video speaks for itself.

00:58:00.840 –> 00:58:03.280
It’s kind of I think most people have seen that,

00:58:03.280 –> 00:58:05.739
you know what? I mean, it’s like a If you look

00:58:05.739 –> 00:58:08.699
up horror video on the internet, this is Will

00:58:08.699 –> 00:58:11.579
appear. Yeah for sure for sure and if you hear

00:58:11.579 –> 00:58:15.739
cats in the background Feel free to ignore it

00:58:15.739 –> 00:58:21.059
Taffeta stretching some sound effects But that

00:58:21.059 –> 00:58:24.760
apex twin video come to daddy shot in 2018 and

00:58:24.760 –> 00:58:27.599
directed by Chris Cunningham Taffeta, what do

00:58:27.599 –> 00:58:31.099
you got for us? Um, this is still of the germane

00:58:31.099 –> 00:58:33.440
peoples. This is a high lung who I found like

00:58:33.440 –> 00:58:35.880
years ago when I fucking fell in love with them.

00:58:36.000 –> 00:58:39.559
And the video itself is like, it’s, it does it

00:58:39.559 –> 00:58:41.300
again with like the lore and stuff. If you watch

00:58:41.300 –> 00:58:43.280
it, it’s like animated and it’s essentially like,

00:58:43.579 –> 00:58:45.599
it looks like it’s a war video, but it’s essentially

00:58:45.599 –> 00:58:48.019
just kind of people trying to make peace, but

00:58:48.019 –> 00:58:49.880
still being attacked and people being invaded.

00:58:50.079 –> 00:58:52.460
And I like the usage of, you know, the mass,

00:58:52.519 –> 00:58:54.079
the big tribal mass, which are kind of scary

00:58:54.079 –> 00:58:56.199
and like the, the darkness around it. And then

00:58:56.199 –> 00:58:58.039
when you have that animated like war series,

00:58:58.079 –> 00:58:59.840
you know, that’s like, it gives like some blood

00:58:59.840 –> 00:59:01.480
and some arrows and that’s just kind of fucking

00:59:01.480 –> 00:59:04.809
creepy in general. And I don’t know. I hadn’t

00:59:04.809 –> 00:59:06.829
really seen many of their videos. I experienced

00:59:06.829 –> 00:59:09.789
them live, which is fucking amazing. But finding

00:59:09.789 –> 00:59:12.170
this video, I was like, oh, look at this. It’s

00:59:12.170 –> 00:59:14.489
fucked up. But, you know, it’s also one of those

00:59:14.489 –> 00:59:17.190
things that has a very positive message. Honestly,

00:59:17.250 –> 00:59:18.670
literally, you could probably choose any kind

00:59:18.670 –> 00:59:21.750
of like Norwegian or Scandinavian black metal

00:59:21.750 –> 00:59:23.809
video and it’d be a horror video. Yeah, yeah,

00:59:23.869 –> 00:59:26.230
yeah. So essentially. But there’s a lot more

00:59:26.230 –> 00:59:28.230
to it, like the animation and the shadow play

00:59:28.230 –> 00:59:31.070
and everything. So that like depth of spooky.

00:59:31.340 –> 00:59:34.000
Yeah, I really like this. Uh, it’s kind of like

00:59:34.000 –> 00:59:37.400
kind of got a You know if uh, you mixed like

00:59:37.400 –> 00:59:41.059
norse mythology and like chinese shadow puppetry.

00:59:41.139 –> 00:59:44.820
Yeah Pagan paganism paganism. Yeah, like runes

00:59:44.820 –> 00:59:48.199
and yeah exactly. Yeah Yeah, totally. It’s really

00:59:48.199 –> 00:59:50.480
cool. Yeah, we have similar. I think probably

00:59:50.480 –> 00:59:52.699
have similar taste in Music because I love a

00:59:52.699 –> 00:59:56.880
lot of this stuff, too. Yeah. Yeah cool And I

00:59:56.880 –> 01:00:00.349
believe this is our last round Right, the final

01:00:00.349 –> 01:00:02.570
round. Did you save the best for last, Peter?

01:00:03.489 –> 01:00:06.769
This is probably my favorite of them, so I think

01:00:06.769 –> 01:00:13.889
so. Cool. So this is from 2015. And I will say

01:00:13.889 –> 01:00:16.030
I was not into this artist when all my friends

01:00:16.030 –> 01:00:18.309
were. I had kind of written them off, though

01:00:18.309 –> 01:00:20.530
they’ve grown on me. But this is the song and

01:00:20.530 –> 01:00:24.489
video that won me over. And that’s care of Daniel

01:00:24.489 –> 01:00:27.860
Sloplinski. guy keep bringing up. He sent me

01:00:27.860 –> 01:00:29.179
this because he thought I might appreciate the

01:00:29.179 –> 01:00:33.159
video. And that is Ghost, and it is Circe. I

01:00:33.159 –> 01:00:37.079
always want to say Circe, but it’s Circe off

01:00:37.079 –> 01:00:41.179
the record, Meloria. Circe, let’s see, I did

01:00:41.179 –> 01:00:46.059
it. Circe is an old, it’s old English for church.

01:00:46.599 –> 01:00:49.019
But what’s interesting is, yeah, won a Grammy

01:00:49.019 –> 01:00:54.019
for best metal performance in 2016. So the video,

01:00:54.329 –> 01:00:59.409
is really captivating. It features a little girl

01:00:59.409 –> 01:01:01.750
and her mom going to see a children’s talent

01:01:01.750 –> 01:01:05.309
show. The girl is bored through the opening acts

01:01:05.309 –> 01:01:08.809
until the headliner, which is a kids band performing

01:01:08.809 –> 01:01:11.989
if it was like the band Ghost. Ghost wears all

01:01:11.989 –> 01:01:14.289
these elaborate costumes. The singer has like

01:01:14.289 –> 01:01:16.289
face paint to look like a skeleton and he’s got

01:01:16.289 –> 01:01:20.769
this pope hat, but they’re kids. And so the singer…

01:01:20.909 –> 01:01:22.789
you know, start, they start singing, the song

01:01:22.789 –> 01:01:26.550
comes on and it’s, they have this sacrilegious,

01:01:26.710 –> 01:01:30.150
satanic vibe, I guess you could say, the aesthetic

01:01:30.150 –> 01:01:33.510
of it all. Like a dark pope. Yeah. Yeah. It’s

01:01:33.510 –> 01:01:35.969
something sinister about it. And the music suggests

01:01:35.969 –> 01:01:40.050
that too. But basically what happens is the parents

01:01:40.050 –> 01:01:43.769
are starting to freak out and it just kind of

01:01:43.769 –> 01:01:46.530
escalates. And then the girl gets very entranced

01:01:46.530 –> 01:01:48.940
by this and she reaches up and the guy, the singer

01:01:48.940 –> 01:01:52.119
takes her hand at this quiet part and it’s like

01:01:52.119 –> 01:01:56.300
she’s seduced by darkness and then she basically

01:01:56.300 –> 01:02:00.960
becomes Carrie and has these like telekinetic

01:02:00.960 –> 01:02:04.980
powers where she’s making people go crazy and

01:02:04.980 –> 01:02:07.599
everyone’s trying to get out of the room but

01:02:07.599 –> 01:02:10.360
can’t, the wind’s going, the band’s still playing

01:02:10.360 –> 01:02:13.940
and the principal is trying to stop the band

01:02:13.940 –> 01:02:17.960
and she starts choking him with her powers. And

01:02:17.960 –> 01:02:19.159
by the time you get to the end of the song, the

01:02:19.159 –> 01:02:21.219
principal is finally able to rip out the power

01:02:21.219 –> 01:02:26.360
and, you know, everything stops. And then simple,

01:02:26.500 –> 01:02:29.559
but cool. You know, then it cuts to this couple

01:02:29.559 –> 01:02:31.440
that I guess are the parents of the singer and

01:02:31.440 –> 01:02:34.340
they start clapping. And to me, they look like

01:02:34.340 –> 01:02:39.219
Satanists. But yeah, I just it’s very cinematic

01:02:39.219 –> 01:02:42.500
for what it is. The aesthetic is dated like it’s

01:02:42.500 –> 01:02:45.619
from the 70s. The color palette lighting. There’s

01:02:45.619 –> 01:02:49.059
emulsion damage, dust particles. Again, kind

01:02:49.059 –> 01:02:50.199
of like what you’re saying, where it looks like

01:02:50.199 –> 01:02:52.639
it’s film. Yeah, I noticed that right away. You

01:02:52.639 –> 01:02:55.579
can’t tell. Cool. But it’s and it wasn’t quite

01:02:55.579 –> 01:02:58.420
obvious to me immediately that it’s like heavily

01:02:58.420 –> 01:03:03.619
inspired by the Del Palma film Carrie. The Palma?

01:03:03.739 –> 01:03:07.559
The Palma, yeah. But it’s yeah, the little girl

01:03:07.559 –> 01:03:09.199
is seduced by the darkness. It makes sense because

01:03:09.199 –> 01:03:11.909
like when during the prom when she. You know,

01:03:12.030 –> 01:03:14.670
it has that kind of vibe. Right, but Carrie wasn’t

01:03:14.670 –> 01:03:17.750
seduced by darkness. She was bullied. I mean,

01:03:17.789 –> 01:03:19.510
she kind of was darkness. Yeah, but just visually,

01:03:19.730 –> 01:03:22.429
I mean. Oh, yeah, totally. So it sets it up like

01:03:22.429 –> 01:03:26.769
that. It was directed by Robo Shobo. I think

01:03:26.769 –> 01:03:30.050
that’s how you say his name, which is aka Robert

01:03:30.050 –> 01:03:33.489
Shober. He’s done a lot of music videos, but

01:03:33.489 –> 01:03:37.829
he randomly did visual effects on the ring too.

01:03:38.050 –> 01:03:41.699
There’s a horror tag. Well, actually, that’s

01:03:41.699 –> 01:03:44.940
a good tee up for the one that I had for my last

01:03:44.940 –> 01:03:47.139
one, because it’s a very similar kind of band.

01:03:47.300 –> 01:03:52.679
It’s the Sleep Token. And Sleep Tokens, it’s

01:03:52.679 –> 01:03:55.860
kind of like Ghost, I feel like. Not everybody

01:03:55.860 –> 01:03:57.960
knows who they are, but they have like a crazy

01:03:57.960 –> 01:04:01.440
dedicated fan base, you know? And they also,

01:04:01.800 –> 01:04:03.219
I think they’re similar in the sense that they’re

01:04:03.219 –> 01:04:06.059
also kind of like dark and metal -y in a way,

01:04:06.079 –> 01:04:08.699
but they’re also… Kind of soft does that make

01:04:08.699 –> 01:04:10.860
sense which which is the main reason I never

01:04:10.860 –> 01:04:12.980
really got in a ghost because I love metal and

01:04:12.980 –> 01:04:15.579
Kind of like what holds me back from really loving

01:04:15.579 –> 01:04:19.539
sleep token but I do like their whole vibe because

01:04:19.539 –> 01:04:22.559
what they They do is they essentially they’re

01:04:22.559 –> 01:04:24.559
all anonymous in the band like people legitimately

01:04:24.559 –> 01:04:26.320
don’t know who they are I mean, I’m sure somebody

01:04:26.320 –> 01:04:28.380
probably knows who they are there but but they

01:04:28.380 –> 01:04:30.159
keep it under wraps pretty well and it’s like

01:04:30.159 –> 01:04:31.699
kind of a performance our thing and they all

01:04:31.699 –> 01:04:33.380
wear costumes when they play and they’re like

01:04:33.380 –> 01:04:36.340
really cool creepy full -core kinds of costumes

01:04:36.730 –> 01:04:40.409
And their music videos are pretty in that vein

01:04:40.409 –> 01:04:43.650
as well. So this this video is alkaline for their

01:04:43.650 –> 01:04:48.309
song alkaline and with basically the singer sleep

01:04:48.309 –> 01:04:50.969
tokens just kind of like in a chair in this like

01:04:50.969 –> 01:04:55.510
abandoned house and these guys in hazmat suits

01:04:55.510 –> 01:04:57.730
and guns break in and they’re like trying to

01:04:57.730 –> 01:05:00.329
clear the building like looking for him. And

01:05:00.329 –> 01:05:02.989
by the end of the music video, they find them.

01:05:03.150 –> 01:05:05.570
and they burst in the room and are like trying

01:05:05.570 –> 01:05:08.429
to shoot him and he uses like also telekinesis

01:05:08.429 –> 01:05:12.789
powers and he you know ends up like killing them

01:05:12.789 –> 01:05:15.869
essentially with like magic so and it’s really

01:05:15.869 –> 01:05:18.070
cool and dark and just got a really sick vibe

01:05:18.070 –> 01:05:20.969
I think and you know there’s like a whole you

01:05:20.969 –> 01:05:22.750
could just sense that there this could be like

01:05:22.750 –> 01:05:26.969
a movie like there’s a backstory here and I really

01:05:26.969 –> 01:05:28.829
love that it’s like hinting at like a larger

01:05:28.829 –> 01:05:32.820
world and larger story It kind of reminded me

01:05:32.820 –> 01:05:35.320
a little bit of like the Vecna stranger things

01:05:35.320 –> 01:05:38.300
Then like that’s kind of jumped to me that the

01:05:38.300 –> 01:05:42.079
hazmat suits. I think of like I Don’t take your

01:05:42.079 –> 01:05:49.280
name your movie, right? Maybe I’m maybe not the

01:05:49.280 –> 01:05:50.880
most unique thing I think what’s interesting

01:05:50.880 –> 01:05:53.880
though is kind of the combination of the two

01:05:53.880 –> 01:05:55.559
right you get this like has no just kind of got

01:05:55.559 –> 01:06:00.159
tech, you know technology Forward current day

01:06:00.159 –> 01:06:04.380
thing, but then the folk Horror elements feel

01:06:04.380 –> 01:06:06.559
rooted in this like deep history, you know. Mm

01:06:06.559 –> 01:06:10.099
-hmm. That’s good. It’s a good combination juxtaposition

01:06:10.099 –> 01:06:13.320
and Taffeta you want to bring her home for us?

01:06:13.500 –> 01:06:16.199
I will but I didn’t save my best for last in

01:06:16.199 –> 01:06:20.500
fact This is as basic as it can be but I’m a

01:06:20.500 –> 01:06:23.800
big fan of the album famous monsters I’m not

01:06:23.800 –> 01:06:25.960
the biggest fan of Michael Graves. I think personally

01:06:25.960 –> 01:06:30.300
he’s talking about the Misfits the new Misfits

01:06:30.300 –> 01:06:34.860
This is a yeah the Michael Graves and it’s the

01:06:34.860 –> 01:06:37.019
only album that I really listen to from them

01:06:37.019 –> 01:06:39.019
is famous monsters because I mean they sing about

01:06:39.019 –> 01:06:41.369
like you know, every track is about a specific

01:06:41.369 –> 01:06:43.489
horror movie. And they sing about Pumpkin Head

01:06:43.489 –> 01:06:45.730
and Planet of the Apes and like Lost in Space.

01:06:45.909 –> 01:06:48.329
And then this one is Scream. And it’s a typical

01:06:48.329 –> 01:06:51.150
like zombie movie in which they had George Romero

01:06:51.150 –> 01:06:53.369
help them with. And it’s done really well. It

01:06:53.369 –> 01:06:55.329
looks like it could be a mini, you know, like

01:06:55.329 –> 01:06:57.570
a two minute zombie horror movie. And it’s done

01:06:57.570 –> 01:06:59.969
in black and white. And they use all their fans,

01:06:59.969 –> 01:07:01.769
you know, to come in there and be zombies and

01:07:01.769 –> 01:07:06.039
stuff. Yeah, it’s cool. I like the juxtaposition

01:07:06.039 –> 01:07:08.260
between the black and white and the color of

01:07:08.260 –> 01:07:11.659
the live performance. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah But that’s

01:07:11.659 –> 01:07:13.219
kind of the one I went with is because you know

01:07:13.219 –> 01:07:15.179
with like these you’ve got people literally biting

01:07:15.179 –> 01:07:17.699
into each other’s heads and brains exposed And

01:07:17.699 –> 01:07:20.940
I think that’s probably like the most gory in

01:07:20.940 –> 01:07:24.679
or pick of all my videos Um, so far, uh, you

01:07:24.679 –> 01:07:26.659
got Doyle like walking around like a big fucking

01:07:26.659 –> 01:07:30.380
zombie and that’s fucking scary as itself Doyle

01:07:30.380 –> 01:07:33.039
zombie is fucking scary. He’s like eight feet

01:07:33.039 –> 01:07:36.280
tall He’s still pretty ripped for he’s a big

01:07:36.280 –> 01:07:39.480
boy He must be in his 60s now, right? Yeah. Yeah

01:07:39.480 –> 01:07:41.719
for sure. I’m sure they all are but maybe even

01:07:41.719 –> 01:07:45.820
older but yeah, I just I like the uh the the

01:07:45.820 –> 01:07:48.440
nod to every black and white movie that kind

01:07:48.440 –> 01:07:52.849
of came before uh the 80s Took the the video

01:07:52.849 –> 01:07:55.590
is because George Romero directing it like as

01:07:55.590 –> 01:07:59.090
Night of the Living Dead in a hospital Like that’s

01:07:59.090 –> 01:08:04.269
me Yeah So my questions that because this opens

01:08:04.269 –> 01:08:08.349
a can of worms. I’m like Was George Romero a

01:08:08.349 –> 01:08:10.809
fan of the original Misfits and had he heard

01:08:10.809 –> 01:08:13.110
the song Night of the Living Dead? They did and

01:08:13.110 –> 01:08:15.389
now I’m kicking myself because I met George Romero

01:08:15.389 –> 01:08:19.470
and I did not ask him But then I wonder if Danzig

01:08:19.470 –> 01:08:22.270
was like god damn it They get to use George Romero

01:08:22.270 –> 01:08:27.470
shooting. Right. But a fun fact that some of

01:08:27.470 –> 01:08:30.409
you may know is that George Romero then had the

01:08:30.409 –> 01:08:32.189
Michael Graves version of the Misfits in his

01:08:32.189 –> 01:08:34.989
movie Bruiser. Was it? Which one came first?

01:08:35.310 –> 01:08:37.350
The video. I think that’s where the relationship.

01:08:37.829 –> 01:08:39.550
That’s essentially what I had found is that like

01:08:39.550 –> 01:08:41.310
that was the exchange. Like, you know, he helped

01:08:41.310 –> 01:08:45.210
them and they were in his and stuff. Fascinating.

01:08:45.550 –> 01:08:47.789
I wonder why. Did he just want it as like an

01:08:47.789 –> 01:08:51.810
Easter egg or or like because. Did he demand

01:08:51.810 –> 01:08:53.569
or something? I don’t know, man. I really wish

01:08:53.569 –> 01:08:55.609
I had had this conversation when he was alive

01:08:55.609 –> 01:09:01.510
and I met him, but I did not. One of the fun

01:09:01.510 –> 01:09:02.869
facts, I guess, really quick was that it was

01:09:02.869 –> 01:09:05.710
originally sent to Wes Craven to be in Scream

01:09:05.710 –> 01:09:09.050
2, and he declined it. And then it was ultimately

01:09:09.050 –> 01:09:11.369
just later re -recorded for just the album release.

01:09:13.109 –> 01:09:15.210
That I did not know. That’s really interesting.

01:09:17.180 –> 01:09:18.760
Alright, so that’s the end of our main conversation,

01:09:18.800 –> 01:09:20.720
but but just to wrap up here You guys looking

01:09:20.720 –> 01:09:22.619
forward to seeing anything this week or doing

01:09:22.619 –> 01:09:24.439
anything this week interesting that people might

01:09:24.439 –> 01:09:27.100
want to know about I still need to see Redux

01:09:27.100 –> 01:09:30.319
Redux got me to and I want to see undertone So

01:09:30.319 –> 01:09:32.340
now I’m happy to have two things that I actually

01:09:32.340 –> 01:09:34.899
really want to see yeah in the theater That’s

01:09:34.899 –> 01:09:37.859
what that you took mine that well that also motivates

01:09:37.859 –> 01:09:40.319
me more than just like if I kind of carry something

01:09:40.319 –> 01:09:42.380
Then I’m probably not gonna see it in the theater

01:09:42.569 –> 01:09:45.130
But if I really wanna see it, I will go see it.

01:09:45.149 –> 01:09:47.529
I just did not. So maybe I’ll go see Redux, Redux.

01:09:47.529 –> 01:09:49.770
Well, I gotta see, I clearly gotta check out

01:09:49.770 –> 01:09:55.449
Primal. Yeah, yeah. For me, the people I spoke

01:09:55.449 –> 01:09:58.050
about last weekend that do vinyl and plastic,

01:09:58.189 –> 01:10:00.149
those horror graphic novels that I brought in,

01:10:00.649 –> 01:10:03.050
they have a new comic out called Narco. I don’t

01:10:03.050 –> 01:10:04.329
remember if I mentioned that, but I’m looking

01:10:04.329 –> 01:10:06.569
forward to reading that this week. It’s essentially

01:10:06.569 –> 01:10:10.029
a really big tribute to the Hitchcock -esque

01:10:10.029 –> 01:10:13.470
style. The main character has a narcolepsy and

01:10:13.470 –> 01:10:15.010
he gets that whenever he gets really excited

01:10:15.010 –> 01:10:17.430
and then he winds up meeting a girl gets really

01:10:17.430 –> 01:10:20.350
excited about her and starts passing out more

01:10:20.350 –> 01:10:22.550
and essentially I think we did talk about the

01:10:22.550 –> 01:10:25.390
fainting goats thing. Yeah Yeah, so yeah that

01:10:25.390 –> 01:10:27.170
comes out this week So I’m looking forward to

01:10:27.170 –> 01:10:29.689
finally reading that new issue that new title

01:10:29.689 –> 01:10:32.210
from some of my favorite horror writers and artists

01:10:32.210 –> 01:10:34.350
Nice and don’t forget to check out Dungeons and

01:10:34.350 –> 01:10:36.170
Dragons. Oh, yeah. Yeah, what’s the Dungeons

01:10:36.170 –> 01:10:38.170
and Dragons one? It’s called like, okay, let

01:10:38.170 –> 01:10:42.699
me like pull up the notes again the darkness

01:10:42.699 –> 01:10:45.619
backness you’re close you’re you’re getting there

01:10:45.619 –> 01:10:48.279
you’re getting there it’s uh Dungeons and Dragons

01:10:48.279 –> 01:10:51.539
fallbacks I want to check it out too I gotta

01:10:51.539 –> 01:10:53.340
honestly I gotta come see you at work I’ve been

01:10:53.340 –> 01:10:55.199
meaning to do yeah it’s a good spot it’s a cool

01:10:55.199 –> 01:10:58.000
spot come say hi okay all right well thanks for

01:10:58.000 –> 01:11:00.420
tuning in we’ll uh check back with you next week

01:11:00.420 –> 01:11:03.779
with something really great I’m sure bye adios

01:11:03.779 –> 01:11:12.090
bye Thanks for listening this week. We’ll be

01:11:12.090 –> 01:11:14.770
back next week where we talk about Scream Queens

01:11:14.770 –> 01:11:17.869
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01:11:17.869 –> 01:11:19.470
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01:11:19.470 –> 01:11:21.970
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01:11:28.029 –> 01:11:30.970
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01:11:30.970 –> 01:11:33.510
for our score. We’re your hosts, Christopher

01:11:33.510 –> 01:11:36.770
Smith, Peter Sawyer, and Taffeta Darling. See

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