The Comic Book Origins Of Tales From The Crypt

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Welcome back to nightmare logic the crypt keepers

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favorite podcast for news theories and reviews

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We’re your undead animatronic hosts Christopher

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Smith Peter Sawyer and Taffeta darling join us

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today as Taffeta reveals her tales from the crypt

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obsession And Peter reports live from the front

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line of the indie horror festival circuit Hey

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guys, it’s been a while. How are you guys doing

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pretty good? Nice nice anybody do anything fun

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see anything cool read anything I did and this

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weekend was free comic book day on Saturday So

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that was exciting and I did pick up some new

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comics Some that were already like on my list

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to get. I’m finally picking up Narco. I mentioned

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you guys before when I talked about Plastic and

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Vinyl with Wagner and Hilliard. And so now they’ve

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got the new Narco comic out. So I’m stoked to

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read this very Hitchcockian comic. So I’m stoked

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to dive into issue one and two in that. My free

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picks. Over the weekend. It was kind of disappointing

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It wasn’t nearly as much because it’s a weird

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thing to where the main company distributor who

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does it is gone So not everyone’s kind of scrambling,

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but I picked up this a planet from the apes planet

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versus predator versus alien comic Wow, so I’m

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curious about that and then there’s also a this

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new Masters of the universe Comic that I picked

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up as well. I’m kind of curious if it’s gonna

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tie into the new movie or whatever Cool. Yeah.

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So that was fun. And then I watched The Wicker

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Man because we just celebrated Beltane, which

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is kind of like the halfway point to Halloween

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and fall. So I love that movie by. Have you guys

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seen it, The Wicker Man? Am I just going? Well,

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I’ve seen the original. Some of the maybe I saw

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some of the remake, but I really can’t remember

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shit about it. Yeah, I have actually not seen

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it. It’s pretty horrific. It’s deep split. You

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know, there’s a lot of pagan. lore into it, but

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it’s also pretty brutal towards the end. It’s

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got this big reveal. It’s Christopher Lee. So

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that was pretty much consumed me this week. So,

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yeah, I did more than I normally do. So there

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you go. Taffado, where did you buy the comics?

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Like, what’s your go to shop to buy comics? Right

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now? Yeah, it’s a house of secrets. And then

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I really like Golden Apple. Golden Apple is kind

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of like the big one that’s been around for a

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while, although it was a very small store. Actually,

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they all kind of are small stores, but I like

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the people there. I like the the setting and

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I like the variety. There’s some shops I’ve been

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to where like they really lack in like indie

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stuff and like more obscure stuff. And so far

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House of Secrets and Golden Apple are the two

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that I found that were pretty legit. House of

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Secrets, is that, I feel like that was in Silver

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Lake. Is that still there or? And that’s Burbank.

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It’s over there off Magnolia. Like kind of by

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with the Pinocchio restaurant in. Where all the

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like haunted and like horror strip is. There’s

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like this big like horror avenue down there.

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Monster Mile. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s over

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there. Okay, I feel like there was, it used to

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be in Silver Lake, but I could be wrong maybe.

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Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what’s Monster

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Mile? This is new to me. That’s where basically

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we have horror trivia, but it’s like Halloweentown

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and the Mystic Museum and all this. Costume shop.

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Yeah, it’s a lot of like horror type stuff. I

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didn’t know there was a name for it. That’s weird.

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Yeah, cuz it’s just condensed in this area, and

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I don’t think you anywhere else on the planet

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probably has something like that Yeah, I think

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it’s kind of missing. I think is maybe the horror

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cafe It’s over there like a no -ho, but I feel

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like the horror cafe right in my head I imagine

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they tried to get on that side of town, but I

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bet the rent over there is fucking ridiculous

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But yeah, if we could just get horror cafe like

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over there as well I think that would be the

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perfect place to hit up when you’re in town for

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horror Well Taft, I like your shirt. I am I my

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Tolkien my metal my metal shirt. What you got

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Peter? What’s your say? Midnight they’re metal

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as well Speaking about metal we got a metal Movie

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to talk about in releases. Oh cool, which one?

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Well, you’ll find out won’t you? I was about

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to ask you Christopher have you watched anything

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but then realize you’ve been slain away Yeah,

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I mean I watched lots of things but it was a

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lot of like commercial footage for the things

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I was editing really boring stuff and then shot

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and edited a bunch of things for the county and

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You know, I just had a bunch of tons of work

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so much work in one week. It was like 9 a .m.

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To 1 or 2 in the morning every day for like 12

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days straight. That’s that’s brutal man. Are

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you on the other side of it? Yeah, yeah, finally.

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Thank goodness. I can you can breathe yeah breathe

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and I think I have some time to maybe focus on

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more creative My own personal projects I should

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say so right on yeah, Peter will have to talk

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Before we get into it, I guess I did see a couple

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yeah movies that I want to mention The first

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is a film called black eyes suit black eyed Susan

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by Scooter Mc McCree and Damien Maffey and Yvonne

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Emily Thokker star in it and It’s I found it

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very captivating. It’s an uncomfortable watch,

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but it’s very compelling and it’s super low budget,

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but it’s basically this this guy is Pulled it

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he needs work and he’s he has to work with this

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basically AI sex doll And he’s encouraged to

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like beat her and stuff And it just goes in a

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very kind of dark direction. But what’s really

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interesting about it is the ideas because it’s

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like, it makes you think about like, if you have

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a very awful problem and there’s a dark way to

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solve it, it’s not as awful, but it’s like, does

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it encourage this or does it solve it? It kind

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of gets into this. So there’s some pretty big

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ideas that are. I don’t know. I think linger

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with people or it did with me because I was like,

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Jesus Christ. Right. But it was yeah, it was

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interesting. It had this charm to it. I just

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didn’t know what to expect. You always come with

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like some interesting like films, the deep cuts.

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Well, I heard about it a couple of years ago,

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and it’s not like the most bleak thing I’ve seen,

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but it’s just relevant because AI, you know,

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sex dolls and stuff are a real thing. Sex dolls

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are hot right now. I mean, I don’t know if they

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are, but it’s, uh, it’s, it’s, yeah, it’s interesting.

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There’s some humanity into this too. So it’s,

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it’s an interesting movie for sure. Honestly,

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that’s the best way to handle a topic like that

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is like, you use it to illustrate the humanity.

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I think. Right, I mean that’s I don’t really

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want to explain more because it’s I think going

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in vague made it a much more interesting ride

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not knowing like where this was going But I appreciated

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it because they got a lot of mileage out of not

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much. Yeah I think it’s on plex, which is which

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is free But it might have been on something else

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too because I don’t know if it was to be your

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plex But I feel like it’s on one of those streamers.

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That’s free with ads Very nice. And the other

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movie I saw is a bit more known. That is They

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Will Kill You, which was done by Krill Sakhalov

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and stars Yazzie Beats, Heather Graham, and Patricia

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Arquette. And did you guys ever see the trailer

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for that? That came out earlier this year. I

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did. I don’t remember it. I’ll be honest, but

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I did watch the trailer. It’s this girl, this

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woman who basically goes to work at some hotel

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that you quickly learn is like a satanic cult.

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And she’s, she’s there to, to rescue someone.

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Um, but it’s more of like a splatter version

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of Kill Bill than horror, even though it’s got

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supernatural elements and you know, satanic stuff.

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So it’s kind of like, yeah, you’re like John

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wicking it or, or, uh, Kill Bill, but it’s, it’s

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fun. And it will keep that has some fun surprises

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in it as well. So if you like, you know, action

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with a lot of gore that that might be your thing.

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Yeah, I kind of a fan of Heather Graham a little

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bit. I went to a thing with her once. So now

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I like kind of like interested in her career.

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You know, I feel like a personal perspective.

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I want to check it out. Also, she’s kind of a

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scream queen, you might say. She’s been in a

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number of different kind of horrors and thrillers.

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As of late, yeah, I don’t I mean I know her from

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license to drive originally and then it’s like

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boogie nights She in the original license to

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drive from the 80s. Yeah, she was a love interest

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Wow Yeah, but she was also in I want to say Something

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in like the late 90s or early 2010s. I was horror

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esque or like thriller. I can’t remember what

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it was Yes, I mean she was in I am blanking on

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the movie, but something like five, 10 years

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ago that made a small splash in indie horror.

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Cool. Cool, cool. I generally like her. She’s

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kind of a weirdo, has like a different personality

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than you’ve seen a lot of celebrities. You know,

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I mean we’re doing a good way. Yeah. Good pairing

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with Patricia Arquette, who I absolutely adore

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as well. And I like to see her coming in into

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her own as like an older, I don’t know, not in

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a derogatory, but like as an elder actress, you

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know, I love seeing her still kind of being around

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and stuff. Her in Severance was amazing. Oh,

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my God, she was so good. And she’s also in one

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of my, even though it’s a later season episode,

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my favorite episodes of Tales from the Crypt

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as well. Like I think season four, she makes

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a cameo in one of the craziest episodes of that

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season. It’s almost like we planned that. But

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totally didn’t. I mean, I would also say Yazzie

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beats in it really like, I think she did a lot

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of her own stunts. She really, yeah, it was like

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I said, John Wick level action. Really? Cool.

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Yeah, like there’s some really crazy stunts.

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So it’s beautifully made for that. I think she’s

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having a bit of a moment. Like I feel like she’s

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acting a lot more and yeah She’s I think she

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was like an episode of black mirror in a couple

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other things and I was like, oh, that’s her I’m

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much better with like older actors that you grow

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up with and I’m learning the new ones unless

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they’re constantly in your face, you know, right?

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So what you’re saying is you’re getting old.

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Yeah, I mean I’ve definitely been a touch Great.

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Well, let’s head into the news. I got just a

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couple today. It’s actually been somewhat of

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a slow week for horror news and genre news. But

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I think the biggest thing is you guys are probably

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already aware. Actually, I know you are because

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I sent it to you in the group chat. But Resident

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Evil has dropped a trailer. And this is the new

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one by Zach Creger, friend of the pod. We will

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obviously post that on the show notes. And probably

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anyone listening this has already watched it.

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And what’s interesting maybe to discuss though

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is there’s some controversy, of course, because

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the gamers are feeling like Zach is ignoring

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the game lore in the film, which I think he said

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in interviews was intentional. And kind of addressing

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that, he was on a podcast where he said that

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he was aiming to capture more of the feeling

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of playing the games than the actual lore and

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that This film it’s gonna be like no other film

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that you’ve seen according to him. So Just curious.

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What did you guys watch the trailer? What did

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you think like is it gonna be good is look promising?

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Yeah, I I watched it. I think it looks great

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and I Have been very loyal to the game. So I

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I love Resident Evil’s I thought when I the first

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one I played was part two and I was like this

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is scarier than any horror movie the time so

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I Yeah, I got hooked on it. So when I watched

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the trailer, I’m like, oh you can totally see

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that he’s Channeling that even if it’s not a

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character in the game. I don’t I’ve played most

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of them. I that doesn’t bother me The only Resident

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Evil movie I really like are there’s two of them

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I like the first one and then I like to welcome

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to Raccoon City, which kind of felt like part

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two But a lot of them are just big crazy Messes

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that don’t capture the horror of it. I think

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what Zach’s doing is really trying to channel

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that My one so it dawned on me that with movies

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like this where you’re following one character

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through the whole movie You’re like, well, they’re

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probably not gonna die until the end. So The

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stakes don’t almost that kind of negate some

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of the stakes It’s like if you watch the it movie

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and it’s the kids you’re like, well, you know,

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they’re all gonna grow up So none of them they’re

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all invincible in this movie, right? Interestingly,

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that never occurs to me when I’m watching it.

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Well, I think I’m just, you know, I try to stay

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in the moment, you know, like go with the flow

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and like it’s which is weird because I’m always

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looking for like as a filmmaker. I can’t help

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but think about the sort of. what they’re doing

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behind the scenes, but for whatever reason, I

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don’t think too hard about the story and what

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it means for later on in the story. And it’s

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not like a flaw. I mean, there’s plenty of movies

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that are amazing the whole way through, but then

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if you distance yourself from it and think about

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it, you’re like, oh, yeah, they have to do this

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to make the movie satisfying or whatever. Right.

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Well, I think in American cinema, almost everybody

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always survives anyways, or all the heroes. So

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I think it’s just… Well, in horror movies,

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not always the case. So who knows how this one’s

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going to end. True. I mean, lately, in general,

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they’ve been breaking that tradition more and

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more, that trope. And foreign films have been

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doing that forever. French films are somewhat

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notorious for ambiguous endings or not resolving.

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Things so right but the back to resident evil

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the trailer looks great. And yeah, i’m really

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excited to see that me too. And you know I In

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response to the criticisms that it’s receiving

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or at least the controversy around, you know

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gamers thinking it doesn’t fulfill the lore as

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far as i’m concerned I a i’m not like a huge

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gamer. Um, I do like games, but I kind of don’t

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play them because I know I’ll just spend all

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my time doing that. But first or second Resident

00:14:52.080 –> 00:14:53.740
Evil came out, my roommate was playing it all

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the time and I’d sit and watch and like it’s

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I loved it. It was like scary. It’s like I got

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nothing but good vibes about the game. But, you

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know, I would much rather it be a solid film

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than it adhered to some kind of like standard

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IP like, you know, just just because like, you

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know, that’s what I’m there for is to see a movie.

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I’m not there to honor the tradition, you know.

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So and to be fair, the previous Resident Evil

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movies, even though they were very much tied

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to the game, weren’t always that great. So, right.

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Well, you know, and the other thing to do, you

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know, which I think these people should keep

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in mind is just that it’s a totally different

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format and storytelling. when you have these

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different formats, it can’t help but be different.

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Like whether it’s a novel, it’s going to be different

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than a movie, which is going to be different

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than a video game because video games inherently

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choose your own adventure and like how you make

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that interesting and fun and scary. You do that

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differently than how you do it in a linear story

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like in a film that’s visual that you control

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the suspense and all of that. So I kind of think

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like. If I had some advice to to the gamer people

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Just give it a chance and like back off and just

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treat it take it on its own terms Enjoy the film

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for what it is No, I agree with you, but Resident

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Evil does have a pretty rich narrative. You play

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the game or whatever, but you come to the same

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story break moments. Right. It’s not entirely

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open world, but it’s like… Well, I mean, I

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think it’s also… It really depends on how far

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you deviate, I guess, is the caveat or perhaps

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the obvious rebuttal to what I’m saying. Like,

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if it’s just totally… Basically a whole different

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world and they’re just calling it Resident Evil.

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That’s obviously not gonna work either like if

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you’re gonna make something in the IP it has

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to be Consistent with that, but it doesn’t have

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to be the same story and characters and and Zach

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has said that does not gonna focus on Leon I

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forget his last name the the main character of

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Resident Evil. It’s like From two and four it

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know it but it’s yeah, it’s centered in Raccoon

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City. I’m sure umbrella is right the villain

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They got the monsters from it, so I… It’s honoring

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it in the way that I think a lot of people will

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be happy. At least that’s my hope. I’m excited

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about a couple of the actors that I’ve seen that

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have been tied to it, like Zach Cherry, again,

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tied into Severance, who I absolutely love in

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Cherry, or in Severance. I’ve never seen him

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in anything else. And so I think it’s neat that

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he’s going to be involved in this. But he’s also

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a hardcore gamer. I’ve seen interviews with Zach

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Cherry and he really loves gaming. And this is

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one of the games he likes. So that’s kind of

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kind of neat to see a fan getting put into, you

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know, this big game. And then Paul Walter Hauser.

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Like, okay, I mean, we know him that he can be

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funny, but also in Blackbird, he can be very

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serious and crazy. So I don’t really know where

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he’s gonna fit in this narrative. I love Paul

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Walter Hauser. I was editing this weird Mark

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Wahlberg reality TV show about him and all his

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businesses, but he, one episode, Paul Walter

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Hauser comes and hangs out with him, and I had

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to watch all the footage from the day, you know,

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even though all the stuff that didn’t make it

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in, and I just really liked him. He’s like a

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nice dude. But also Zach’s a big fan of the game,

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Zach Kregger, the director, in addition to Zach

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Cherry. So like, you know, it’s cool to get a

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bunch of people together who like the game. I’m

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sure whatever they make is going to be good,

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you know? Yeah. And I will say that video game

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adaptations into movies also, I don’t feel like

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really have a great track record. I mean, maybe

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there’s some that I haven’t seen that are more

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geared for kids, but. Yeah. Generally, it’s like,

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I mean, I know they have a new Street Fighter

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coming out as well, right? Like… That looks…

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That looks kind of fun. Street Fighter and in

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the coming soon releases, actually Mortal Kombat

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drops this week. I mean, I liked all those for

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what they were. I mean, the Van Damme Street

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Fighter had some great one -liners. He’s like,

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have you lost your balls? No, you. Shit, no.

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Have you lost your mind? No, you’ve lost your

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balls. Like, genius. I mean, part of the issue

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is, honestly, the best video game remake ever.

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And actually, I don’t know if it technically

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qualifies, but is the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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Well, that’s based on a comic book. Right. I

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was thinking of the comic first, but they did

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have the video game, which was also good. But

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I think part of the problem is a lot of these

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video game franchises that were turned into films,

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a lot of it happened in an era before effects

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were really good. And like, you know, before

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the when Marvel started making comic films good,

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like that’s when. People started to believe in

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you know the power of being able to adapt IP

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from other Places like comic books video games

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and but all the ones before that were a lot pretty

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rough if we’re being honest, you know Well, here’s

00:19:39.140 –> 00:19:42.059
here’s an interesting tidbit and it’s actually

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kind of ties into tales from the crypt in a way

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is the Walter Hill movie streets of fire It’s

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it’s a musical and it’s like an action crazy

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sequence. It’s got Rick Moran is and Lee Vings

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in it and I’m forgetting the main actors. God

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damn it. I can’t think of Tom Cote But it’s got

00:20:04.430 –> 00:20:07.809
Willem Dafoe’s in it. It’s but it’s it’s this

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kind of I Don’t want to say dystopian, but it’s

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like 50s but almost futuristic kind of world

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and that was not adapted into a video game, but

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the creators of the Beat -em -up game final fight

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took a lot from that And kind of that was the

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blueprint for a pretty popular arcade game. That

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was interesting. I thought pretty interesting

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that they took a movie and kind of reverse engineered

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parts of it to make it a video game. Well, I

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mean, that’s probably happened. A lot of times

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than we realize just because of like trying to

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make more money off of movies like Stranger Things

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has a pinball game, you know, and lots of pinball

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IP that’s come from films, I’m sure. That’s true.

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Yeah, totally. So the next piece of news we got

00:20:53.589 –> 00:20:58.289
here. So Nicholas winding reference new slasher

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film. which I didn’t even know he was making,

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is going to be premiering at Cannes. And it also

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has a streaming release date of July. And it

00:21:06.849 –> 00:21:09.910
is called Her Private Hell. Have you guys heard

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of this one? Yeah, I did a little while ago.

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Yeah, it sounds interesting. It stars Sophie

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Thatcher, who is in companion and heretic in

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Yellow Jackets. And she’s a woman searching for

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her father as a strange mist engulfs their city

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and leashes an elusive, deadly presence. Which

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isn’t a lot of detail, but it sounds intriguing

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Apparently has a ton of different storylines

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and it takes place in this like big city in the

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future Where actresses are gathering at a posh

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hotel where they’re set to make a Barbarella

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type movie and a heinous killer notice Leatherman

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is going around the city taking the lives of

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women so I guess that’s where the slasher part

00:21:53.029 –> 00:21:56.029
comes in. So I guess it also features Charles

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Melton Christine Forseth, Havana Rose Liu, Dougray

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Scott, and last but not least, Diego Calva. Yeah,

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I don’t know. I’m interested. I’m going to check

00:22:07.039 –> 00:22:09.920
it out. I really like him as a director. So.

00:22:10.740 –> 00:22:12.559
Yeah, I like anything that’s supernatural and

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like, you know, ominous or isoteric, especially

00:22:14.700 –> 00:22:15.920
when you say something about a mist. I mean,

00:22:15.980 –> 00:22:17.920
I instantly go to like Stephen King’s The Mist,

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which I’m sure is going to be completely different.

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But I, you know, at that. That alone, I’m like,

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oh, cool. I like, you know, things that are like,

00:22:23.490 –> 00:22:26.130
you know, hidden. So I’m in. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

00:22:26.130 –> 00:22:29.529
he kind of describes it as it’s an original story

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that’s like driven by glitter, sex and violence,

00:22:33.210 –> 00:22:36.549
which I mean, say no more. Right. I was on board

00:22:36.549 –> 00:22:39.069
with glitter. So, yeah, totally. I guess this

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is kind of like, I mean, he did Neon Demon, right?

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So like, yeah, I think he’s just kind of like

00:22:45.609 –> 00:22:48.130
visually into that vibe or something. I mean,

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I don’t know how close it is, but. Yeah, I mean

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I read once that like demons is one of his favorite

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movies Favorite horror movies love that movie.

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I mean I who doesn’t like drive, but yeah neon

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demon was cool And I think he has a condition

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with like it not a color blindness But something

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which affects why he chooses Neons and certain

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colors that pop in the way they do, right? In

00:23:12.940 –> 00:23:14.740
his films, which gives it like a really cool

00:23:14.740 –> 00:23:18.880
style. Yeah I love neon as like a visual like

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in films like yeah, yeah tickles your eyes, you

00:23:21.880 –> 00:23:24.240
know even in video games to like one of my main

00:23:24.240 –> 00:23:26.359
lures of like cyberpunk and I’m gonna start it

00:23:26.359 –> 00:23:28.599
again just because that city is done in so much

00:23:28.599 –> 00:23:31.839
neon and it’s so like Weird and I don’t know.

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It is my like, you know, it’s my aesthetic. So

00:23:33.960 –> 00:23:37.059
yeah cyberpunk is actually by far one of my favorite

00:23:37.059 –> 00:23:39.660
kind of genres There’s just not enough done in

00:23:39.660 –> 00:23:45.500
cyberpunk punk world So okay last but not least

00:23:45.500 –> 00:23:56.119
When you hear the magical jingle just make a

00:23:56.119 –> 00:24:04.539
wish and snap the willow the one wish willow

00:24:04.539 –> 00:24:08.299
What are you wishing for make your wish come

00:24:08.299 –> 00:24:14.559
true with the one wish willow Please wish responsibly

00:24:14.559 –> 00:24:16.259
wishes may cause unexpected behavior violent

00:24:16.259 –> 00:24:18.200
tendencies and self -mutilation do not use if

00:24:18.200 –> 00:24:20.759
you’re experiencing insecurity or extreme obsession

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So what you guys just heard was a new potentially

00:24:30.180 –> 00:24:33.079
viral marketing campaign from the team behind

00:24:33.079 –> 00:24:36.119
obsession and When obsession hits the theater

00:24:36.119 –> 00:24:40.339
gonna have a I don’t know how wide but like basically

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a number of theaters are gonna get branded buckets

00:24:44.019 –> 00:24:46.740
for their popcorn, which include a one wish willow

00:24:46.740 –> 00:24:50.019
so you can make your own wish, I guess, and have

00:24:50.019 –> 00:24:53.519
it go horribly wrong. But this just thought I’d

00:24:53.519 –> 00:24:55.079
mention this one because it’s keeping in with

00:24:55.079 –> 00:24:57.059
the trend of interesting marketing campaigns

00:24:57.059 –> 00:24:59.279
we’re seeing in more horror films. And I just

00:24:59.279 –> 00:25:02.279
love stuff like this. So at the Phoenix Film

00:25:02.279 –> 00:25:05.250
Festival, the. the horror people that I was talking

00:25:05.250 –> 00:25:07.470
to that had seen Obsession were talking about

00:25:07.470 –> 00:25:09.670
that and they were like super stoked on the one

00:25:09.670 –> 00:25:11.950
wish willow So like I think only one of them

00:25:11.950 –> 00:25:14.589
got it and they were like god damn it. So Yeah,

00:25:14.609 –> 00:25:16.650
I mean now I’m curious. I’m like shit. Maybe

00:25:16.650 –> 00:25:19.089
I should definitely see this in order popcorn

00:25:19.089 –> 00:25:22.390
Make sure I get it. Yeah, totally. The popcorn

00:25:22.390 –> 00:25:24.970
bucket game is just outrageous these days. Jesus.

00:25:25.269 –> 00:25:29.470
I love it though. Yeah Yeah, so with the one

00:25:29.470 –> 00:25:31.789
other thing that we learned this week is that

00:25:32.559 –> 00:25:35.420
That it’s rated R for strong, bloody violence,

00:25:35.599 –> 00:25:39.279
grisly images, sexual content, pervasive language,

00:25:39.460 –> 00:25:43.019
and brief graphic nudity. So, um… Yeah, all

00:25:43.019 –> 00:25:46.000
things we love. Exactly, exactly. Bring on the

00:25:46.000 –> 00:25:49.200
violence and sex, I guess. I just don’t get horror

00:25:49.200 –> 00:25:52.599
movies that aren’t rated R. Like, why? You know?

00:25:53.119 –> 00:25:56.359
Yeah. I mean, I think it’s kind of interesting

00:25:56.359 –> 00:25:58.819
when, like, I think The Ring is a very scary

00:25:58.819 –> 00:26:03.450
movie. PG -13. Poltergeist I think was PG. That’s

00:26:03.450 –> 00:26:06.869
right. So I mean there are like some exceptions

00:26:06.869 –> 00:26:10.190
to that It’s like if you don’t have a gory, you

00:26:10.190 –> 00:26:13.809
know, I think my point is more just that uh Why

00:26:13.809 –> 00:26:17.150
limit yourself, you know what I mean? Like it

00:26:17.150 –> 00:26:20.200
should just let it go where it wants to go No,

00:26:20.200 –> 00:26:22.720
true, but I think they’ll make more money at

00:26:22.720 –> 00:26:24.640
the theater if it’s PG -13 because you can get

00:26:24.640 –> 00:26:27.299
a broader audience. I know, but can we have something

00:26:27.299 –> 00:26:29.400
for us people who like horror movies? No, they

00:26:29.400 –> 00:26:33.880
do. I would say most of my favorite movies are

00:26:33.880 –> 00:26:37.279
rated. These are the rating systems evolved too

00:26:37.279 –> 00:26:40.519
because like PG -13 and PG and like the 80s is

00:26:40.519 –> 00:26:43.299
like almost like a hard PG -13 are here these

00:26:43.299 –> 00:26:46.420
days So I feel like you know, that’s how I watched

00:26:46.420 –> 00:26:48.960
all this stuff because it was PG But I was like

00:26:48.960 –> 00:26:51.200
nine years old eight years old watching this

00:26:51.200 –> 00:26:52.980
watching other stuff that I should have been

00:26:52.980 –> 00:26:56.619
watching because of the rating systems I think

00:26:56.619 –> 00:26:59.220
PG -13 actually came on the scene later because

00:26:59.220 –> 00:27:01.940
of that You know they needed something between

00:27:01.940 –> 00:27:06.420
PG and R But I’m I’m really I only watch NC 17

00:27:06.420 –> 00:27:21.339
movies so Christopher PG 13 There was one movie

00:27:21.339 –> 00:27:23.619
that came out before and I cannot remember the

00:27:23.619 –> 00:27:26.480
name of it But it was Temple of Doom in Gremlins

00:27:26.480 –> 00:27:28.839
was when they were like All right, we need some

00:27:28.839 –> 00:27:33.180
middle ground between PG and R rating. Yeah,

00:27:33.319 –> 00:27:35.079
Gremlins is one that’ll get you, you know, because

00:27:35.079 –> 00:27:37.099
it’s like, I mean, it looks like a kids movie.

00:27:37.519 –> 00:27:41.160
It is. And that whole Christmas tree light scene

00:27:41.160 –> 00:27:44.200
where she gets on the elevator or the stair seat,

00:27:44.279 –> 00:27:45.759
like that scared the crap out of me when I was

00:27:45.759 –> 00:27:48.920
younger. So, yeah. Well, the story Phoebe Cates

00:27:48.920 –> 00:27:52.039
tells about her. Dad of the Santa Claus is so

00:27:52.039 –> 00:27:55.539
dark. It’s subtle, too. You have to really kind

00:27:55.539 –> 00:27:57.039
of get it. Like, I didn’t understand it until

00:27:57.039 –> 00:27:58.700
years later because, again, I was very young.

00:27:58.940 –> 00:28:00.319
So, yeah. I need to re -watch that. I honestly

00:28:00.319 –> 00:28:02.259
haven’t seen it, like, probably 25 years, so.

00:28:02.279 –> 00:28:04.940
Oh, wow. The script is worth reading, too, because

00:28:04.940 –> 00:28:06.960
it’s a different ending than what they shot.

00:28:07.160 –> 00:28:09.380
At least the script version I got. I was like,

00:28:09.400 –> 00:28:13.380
oh, shit, this is kind of cool. Surprise. Cool.

00:28:14.029 –> 00:28:15.509
All right. Well, let’s talk about what’s coming

00:28:15.509 –> 00:28:18.190
out this week, which again is not very much.

00:28:18.529 –> 00:28:21.109
You know, we as I mentioned or alluded to earlier,

00:28:21.109 –> 00:28:25.849
Mortal Kombat 2 is dropping, which, you know,

00:28:25.930 –> 00:28:27.710
obviously isn’t horror, but it’s I guess you

00:28:27.710 –> 00:28:31.990
can kind of consider it a genre. Well, I mean,

00:28:32.089 –> 00:28:34.529
I would say it does have the like the fatalities

00:28:34.529 –> 00:28:38.009
of the game, which is gore. So that kind of monster

00:28:38.009 –> 00:28:40.210
is a little bit that way. Otherworldly monsters

00:28:40.210 –> 00:28:42.869
teleporting portals into like demonic. Yeah.

00:28:43.019 –> 00:28:46.119
places. You know, the thing is like, gosh, I

00:28:46.119 –> 00:28:48.000
don’t know. I watched the trailer in prep for

00:28:48.000 –> 00:28:50.599
this and like I think they’re going to make it

00:28:50.599 –> 00:28:53.700
entertaining for sure. But I just like I’m all

00:28:53.700 –> 00:28:55.980
for video game adaptations, like Resident Evil,

00:28:56.059 –> 00:28:59.039
things like that. But when it comes to like P

00:28:59.039 –> 00:29:03.700
versus P video games, you know, it’s like what’s

00:29:03.700 –> 00:29:05.839
because what’s the story? You know, and then

00:29:05.839 –> 00:29:08.220
they try to make a story that always feels. kind

00:29:08.220 –> 00:29:11.980
of shoehorned in. So I think honestly, the more

00:29:11.980 –> 00:29:14.200
that they just focus on the fighting, the better,

00:29:14.380 –> 00:29:16.700
which hopefully they probably will. I mean, assuming

00:29:16.700 –> 00:29:20.259
they will. I’m assuming like most of those kind

00:29:20.259 –> 00:29:22.400
of movies, it’s like all about the tournament

00:29:22.400 –> 00:29:25.259
and they need certain people or characters from

00:29:25.259 –> 00:29:27.539
all over the world that are the best. Yeah. You

00:29:27.539 –> 00:29:29.460
know, for whatever reason. I thought it was interesting.

00:29:29.859 –> 00:29:31.579
And I’m not one of these people who thinks about

00:29:31.579 –> 00:29:34.819
this that often, but that they chose the sort

00:29:34.819 –> 00:29:39.420
of like white American guy. as the hero and he’s

00:29:39.420 –> 00:29:40.839
like, of course he’s like this dummy. And then

00:29:40.839 –> 00:29:42.779
he comes in and he fights all these like really

00:29:42.779 –> 00:29:45.619
capable people of different ethnicities from

00:29:45.619 –> 00:29:48.440
all over the world, you know, which I have no

00:29:48.440 –> 00:29:49.819
idea how they handle it. I’m not saying anything

00:29:49.819 –> 00:29:51.279
about it. I just thought it was an interesting

00:29:51.279 –> 00:29:53.599
thing to note that that was like, they’re like.

00:29:54.110 –> 00:29:55.670
What angle are we gonna take is I don’t know

00:29:55.670 –> 00:29:57.369
if that’s the story in the video game or not?

00:29:57.549 –> 00:30:00.309
But like is that the Johnny Cage character? Yeah,

00:30:00.470 –> 00:30:02.869
yeah, he’s like Mr. Hollywood. Yeah, but he’s

00:30:02.869 –> 00:30:05.289
like I don’t want to be here. Oh, you know it’s

00:30:05.289 –> 00:30:07.190
like I’m not a hero like I don’t know it just

00:30:07.190 –> 00:30:11.289
feels very like on the nose of like Or old -school

00:30:11.289 –> 00:30:13.210
and like the type of story. They would choose

00:30:13.210 –> 00:30:16.150
to tell with it. You know I Don’t know yeah,

00:30:16.230 –> 00:30:19.170
who knows I feel like I saw the trailer at some

00:30:19.170 –> 00:30:21.329
point or did it just come out and I’m imagining

00:30:21.329 –> 00:30:26.009
that Yeah, I don’t know when the trailer dropped

00:30:26.009 –> 00:30:30.430
initially but I mean Honestly, like it’s it’s

00:30:30.430 –> 00:30:32.029
not a type of movie that I would normally like

00:30:32.029 –> 00:30:33.869
seek out But I just thought it was worth mentioning

00:30:33.869 –> 00:30:35.890
today on the podcast. So I watched it, you know

00:30:35.890 –> 00:30:37.930
Yeah, I saw the first one in theaters, but that

00:30:37.930 –> 00:30:39.670
was like one of my very first games I played

00:30:39.670 –> 00:30:41.670
on my Gameboy back in the day like I’m a big

00:30:41.670 –> 00:30:44.589
fan of Mortal Kombat And so I’ve watched all

00:30:44.589 –> 00:30:46.589
the movies. Yeah, but are they good though? Like

00:30:46.589 –> 00:30:50.049
let’s be honest The first one for what it was

00:30:50.049 –> 00:30:52.450
when it came out as an adaptation It’s tolerable

00:30:52.450 –> 00:30:55.450
and I still think it holds up part two was they’re

00:30:55.450 –> 00:30:57.150
like, oh we have all these new characters But

00:30:57.150 –> 00:30:59.269
it also went along the lines with the Mortal

00:30:59.269 –> 00:31:01.910
Kombat 2 movie that came out anything after that

00:31:01.910 –> 00:31:04.809
No Because it does not have Christopher Lambe

00:31:04.809 –> 00:31:07.230
and that’s who I absolutely love is Raiden. I

00:31:07.230 –> 00:31:11.210
think he’s perfect as a Raiden Wait, I will say

00:31:11.210 –> 00:31:14.130
the video game was, you know groundbreaking in

00:31:14.130 –> 00:31:18.220
its time and we should all respected for that

00:31:18.220 –> 00:31:21.579
My beef was Mortal Kombat is like I was a Street

00:31:21.579 –> 00:31:24.779
Fighter 2 guy So the the controls I could never

00:31:24.779 –> 00:31:27.599
like I think I finally learned how to do something

00:31:27.599 –> 00:31:30.640
with a reptile But I yeah, I struggled with the

00:31:30.640 –> 00:31:32.920
fatalities and all that Yeah, didn’t we used

00:31:32.920 –> 00:31:34.880
to play a lot of Street Fighter 2 your house

00:31:34.880 –> 00:31:38.079
back probably? Yeah, I remember Tony Hawk we’d

00:31:38.079 –> 00:31:39.940
stay up all night playing Tony Hawk and bond,

00:31:39.980 –> 00:31:42.480
but I think Street Fighter 2 might have been

00:31:42.480 –> 00:31:46.160
Part of that dude Game’s a classic. So Mortal

00:31:46.160 –> 00:31:48.720
Kombat was written by Jeremy Slater, Ed Boon,

00:31:49.039 –> 00:31:53.000
John Tobias and directed by Simon McQuade. And

00:31:53.000 –> 00:31:58.079
it stars Carl Urban, Ludie Lynn, Jessica McNamee,

00:31:58.319 –> 00:32:01.420
which. That’s a hilarious name, I got to say.

00:32:02.099 –> 00:32:06.000
It’s like Bodhi McBoatface. It’s Jessica McNamee

00:32:06.000 –> 00:32:10.650
McNamee. No. OK. Got a little support here, guys.

00:32:10.789 –> 00:32:17.369
Come on. OK, so the film features fan favorite

00:32:17.369 –> 00:32:19.650
champions now joined by Johnny Cage himself,

00:32:19.650 –> 00:32:22.210
and they’re pitted against each other in an ultimate

00:32:22.210 –> 00:32:24.849
battle to defeat the dark rule of Shao Kahn and

00:32:24.849 –> 00:32:27.490
threatens the very existence of Earthrealm and

00:32:27.490 –> 00:32:31.769
its defenders. So next in releases is we’re getting

00:32:31.769 –> 00:32:34.450
a metal documentary about Iron Maiden. It’s called

00:32:34.450 –> 00:32:37.779
Iron Maiden Burning Ambition. And it’s documentary

00:32:37.779 –> 00:32:41.500
directed by Malcolm Verneal written by David

00:32:41.500 –> 00:32:43.980
Teague. And for those who don’t know, David Teague

00:32:43.980 –> 00:32:48.599
is a kind of legendary documentary editor and

00:32:48.599 –> 00:32:52.819
personality that so which I mentioned because

00:32:52.819 –> 00:32:54.339
I think that indicates that it’s probably gonna

00:32:54.339 –> 00:32:56.480
be pretty good. It basically follows the band.

00:32:56.500 –> 00:32:59.880
It spans five decades following Iron Maiden and

00:32:59.880 –> 00:33:03.200
it charts their iconic rise to one of the biggest

00:33:03.200 –> 00:33:05.400
bands of music history. And then also obviously

00:33:06.040 –> 00:33:07.680
Some of the challenges that they’ve had along

00:33:07.680 –> 00:33:09.900
the way the trailer looks pretty good a lot of

00:33:09.900 –> 00:33:13.339
actual archival footage From an era when that

00:33:13.339 –> 00:33:16.299
you know wasn’t common to be videoing and filming

00:33:16.299 –> 00:33:19.539
everything so It looks good. If you’re a fan

00:33:19.539 –> 00:33:21.759
of the band, I think you’ll like it I haven’t

00:33:21.759 –> 00:33:23.880
seen that band, but I am yeah, I mean I’m familiar

00:33:23.880 –> 00:33:25.500
with them But it wasn’t a band that really got

00:33:25.500 –> 00:33:26.859
into you. I really only knew it because of like

00:33:26.859 –> 00:33:28.799
evil Ernie, right? That’s the skeleton like their

00:33:28.799 –> 00:33:30.519
main logo and stuff. That’s what I would see

00:33:30.519 –> 00:33:32.420
Eddie. That’s right. Evil Eddie. Is that what

00:33:32.420 –> 00:33:34.680
it is? And I would see that like there was all

00:33:34.680 –> 00:33:36.500
these like, you know a flea markets back in the

00:33:36.500 –> 00:33:38.259
day that we would go to to get like random stuff

00:33:38.259 –> 00:33:40.299
But there was always like shirts and like, you

00:33:40.299 –> 00:33:42.059
know blankets and random stuff with that logo

00:33:42.059 –> 00:33:43.779
on it And so it just kind of has been embedded

00:33:43.779 –> 00:33:46.559
in my head, but I never got into them, but I

00:33:46.559 –> 00:33:49.559
got some jams They do they do and you know, I

00:33:49.559 –> 00:33:51.940
mean they do have the best artwork for a band

00:33:51.940 –> 00:33:55.740
of that era for sure Last but not least faces

00:33:55.740 –> 00:33:58.200
of death. It’s just been announced that you’re

00:33:58.200 –> 00:33:59.660
gonna be it’s gonna be released on streaming

00:33:59.660 –> 00:34:03.890
on May 12th so that is Before the next podcast

00:34:03.890 –> 00:34:06.150
comes out, so I thought I’d mention it here in

00:34:06.150 –> 00:34:08.429
the news or the release section But it’s not

00:34:08.429 –> 00:34:11.090
obviously it’s already doing a theatrical. So

00:34:11.090 –> 00:34:14.250
this is new to streaming on the 12th I didn’t

00:34:14.250 –> 00:34:17.190
say where though, so I guess we’ll find out but

00:34:17.190 –> 00:34:21.429
I it you know, definitely video on demand and

00:34:21.429 –> 00:34:24.829
in probably some Streamy platforms as well. I’m

00:34:24.829 –> 00:34:28.150
curious to see which ones Yeah, that’s a deep

00:34:28.150 –> 00:34:30.289
cut that it was actually some of my first introductions

00:34:30.289 –> 00:34:32.510
to like some like, you know over -the -top stuff

00:34:32.510 –> 00:34:34.630
back in the day and it’s definitely Responsible

00:34:34.630 –> 00:34:36.690
for the way I view horror and the way I view

00:34:36.690 –> 00:34:40.349
a lot of things when it came to that stuff Yeah,

00:34:40.409 –> 00:34:42.110
how are you? Are you gonna check out this remake

00:34:42.110 –> 00:34:44.849
or what? I mean, I’m I’m curious I mean I want

00:34:44.849 –> 00:34:47.030
to because I realize now I don’t I’m assuming

00:34:47.030 –> 00:34:49.110
it’s not gonna be like the lore of it being like

00:34:49.110 –> 00:34:51.289
actual real footage of stuff like, you know the

00:34:51.289 –> 00:34:53.110
the Mondo stuff back in the day because that

00:34:53.110 –> 00:34:55.469
stuff was always you weren’t really sure but

00:34:56.170 –> 00:34:58.769
Will say the stuff that I watched was actual

00:34:58.769 –> 00:35:00.789
videos of like slaughterhouses and that stuff

00:35:00.789 –> 00:35:02.630
really fucked me up because I wasn’t expecting

00:35:02.630 –> 00:35:04.269
that because you know It’s a compilation of random

00:35:04.269 –> 00:35:06.929
stuff. And so it was those slaughterhouse videos.

00:35:06.929 –> 00:35:09.409
It really really fucked me up as like an 11 year

00:35:09.409 –> 00:35:12.389
old Which became eventually responsible for me

00:35:12.389 –> 00:35:16.250
not eating meat Yeah, no, I mean when I was like

00:35:16.250 –> 00:35:18.690
12 that was like a coveted thing to get your

00:35:18.690 –> 00:35:20.130
hands on you’re like, oh my god It’s showing

00:35:20.130 –> 00:35:23.500
people really dying And some of it was faked.

00:35:24.380 –> 00:35:26.480
I forget which one, maybe it was off of the worst

00:35:26.480 –> 00:35:29.860
of faces of death, was like a skydiver in the

00:35:29.860 –> 00:35:32.579
Everglades or somewhere and he gets blown into

00:35:32.579 –> 00:35:35.960
an alligator farm. And you’re just like, everyone’s

00:35:35.960 –> 00:35:38.360
watching in horror as he’s getting eaten because

00:35:38.360 –> 00:35:42.679
there’s nothing they can do. Yeah, grizzly stuff.

00:35:42.860 –> 00:35:45.219
I’m very interested because I’m like, you could

00:35:45.219 –> 00:35:47.860
go so many ways with how that could be a movie.

00:35:47.920 –> 00:35:50.420
And if they’re giving it a narrative, that’s…

00:35:50.219 –> 00:35:52.860
That seems fascinating to me. You know, for a

00:35:52.860 –> 00:35:56.820
bunch of people who run a horror podcast, you

00:35:56.820 –> 00:35:58.340
think we’d be a little more up to date on this.

00:35:58.400 –> 00:36:00.900
But I think that there might be the angle of

00:36:00.900 –> 00:36:03.380
it might actually be like more meta, like kind

00:36:03.380 –> 00:36:05.360
of how they did with the new Anaconda, where

00:36:05.360 –> 00:36:08.739
it’s like. Right. But now I want to look it up

00:36:08.739 –> 00:36:12.840
because, you know. What it would how did they

00:36:12.840 –> 00:36:14.280
approach it? Cuz I I mean that was the whole

00:36:14.280 –> 00:36:16.280
conceit of the first one was that you don’t know

00:36:16.280 –> 00:36:21.519
what? I was holding my breath Yeah, so according

00:36:21.519 –> 00:36:25.000
to chat GPT. It’s a reimagining of the 1978 cult

00:36:25.000 –> 00:36:29.250
classic Directed by Daniel Goldharber and released

00:36:29.250 –> 00:36:32.530
on April 10, 2026, starring Barbie Ferret and

00:36:32.530 –> 00:36:35.170
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. OK. It follows

00:36:35.170 –> 00:36:37.889
a content moderator investigating viral, seemingly

00:36:37.889 –> 00:36:40.130
real murder videos that mimic the original film’s

00:36:40.130 –> 00:36:41.969
infamous death scenes, blending modern social

00:36:41.969 –> 00:36:44.969
media dangers with 90s slasher vibes. So, yeah,

00:36:44.969 –> 00:36:49.050
it’s like a meta like it’s like a real film that’s

00:36:49.050 –> 00:36:53.429
taking a meta approach by them, you know, investigating

00:36:53.429 –> 00:36:55.769
these things based on the original. So, yeah.

00:36:56.610 –> 00:36:58.989
One of the things that interests me is the director

00:36:58.989 –> 00:37:00.889
is the guy who did how to blow up a pipeline.

00:37:01.409 –> 00:37:05.989
Which seems like a wild pivot to this. So that

00:37:05.989 –> 00:37:07.869
was part of what made this compelling for me.

00:37:07.929 –> 00:37:13.230
Yeah, it is interesting, actually. I guess that

00:37:13.230 –> 00:37:15.789
brings us to the main section of today, which

00:37:15.789 –> 00:37:19.429
is Tales from the Crypt. I love Tales from the

00:37:19.429 –> 00:37:25.780
Crypt. He’s doing the voice. That wasn’t bad.

00:37:26.239 –> 00:37:29.599
That was pretty good, Chris. I wasn’t going to

00:37:29.599 –> 00:37:32.659
attempt, so good job. I can’t top that, I’ll

00:37:32.659 –> 00:37:36.139
tell you. Well, you want to take it away first,

00:37:36.300 –> 00:37:37.559
Taffeta? Oh, I don’t know if I’m going to take

00:37:37.559 –> 00:37:40.960
it away, but I’m excited because finally the

00:37:40.960 –> 00:37:42.780
Tales from the Crypt series, it’s the adaptation

00:37:42.780 –> 00:37:45.019
of the EC comics from the 50s, is finally getting

00:37:45.019 –> 00:37:48.699
an actual home for streaming for, I’d say probably.

00:37:49.159 –> 00:37:51.780
My whole adult life, I’ve been looking for that,

00:37:51.780 –> 00:37:53.679
like in a streaming service or just the reruns

00:37:53.679 –> 00:37:56.059
and stuff. I’ve got it on DVD, but Shudder has

00:37:56.059 –> 00:37:58.800
announced as of May 1st, they are going to be

00:37:58.800 –> 00:38:02.260
releasing every season throughout June on every

00:38:02.260 –> 00:38:04.579
Friday. And I’m stoked for that. And it is why

00:38:04.579 –> 00:38:07.039
now I subscribe to Shudder because all my other

00:38:07.039 –> 00:38:09.519
seasons are in storage. And it’s just one of

00:38:09.519 –> 00:38:13.429
these series that I loved as a. as a comic, and

00:38:13.429 –> 00:38:16.409
I will die on this hill that this series is the

00:38:16.409 –> 00:38:18.769
best comic adaptation of anything between the

00:38:18.769 –> 00:38:22.369
series and the live adaptation. It’s panel for

00:38:22.369 –> 00:38:25.329
panel and it’s done so well and better than any

00:38:25.329 –> 00:38:27.090
other comic adaptation out there. And I’m sure

00:38:27.090 –> 00:38:30.010
people won’t like that and maybe forget that

00:38:30.010 –> 00:38:33.489
Tales from the Crypt is a comic. And it is it’s

00:38:33.489 –> 00:38:35.909
just one of those things. It’s a comfort show

00:38:35.909 –> 00:38:38.309
for me, which may be weird to some people, but

00:38:38.309 –> 00:38:41.869
a lot of my stuff tends to be comfort. is horror.

00:38:42.670 –> 00:38:44.670
So anyways, I’m stoked that they are getting

00:38:44.670 –> 00:38:47.969
an exclusive streaming service for all seven

00:38:47.969 –> 00:38:50.190
seasons and they’re going to be the fully uncut

00:38:50.190 –> 00:38:52.710
seasons or series, sorry, episodes. They’re going

00:38:52.710 –> 00:38:55.309
to be the fully uncut episodes because when they

00:38:55.309 –> 00:38:58.250
filmed them, they actually did like a mild version

00:38:58.250 –> 00:39:01.869
of every episode for every uncut episode. So

00:39:01.869 –> 00:39:04.090
it could later be like reran on like Fox and

00:39:04.090 –> 00:39:06.889
stuff like that. So I’m stoked. You know, I didn’t

00:39:06.889 –> 00:39:09.269
know that. Can you imagine having to do like

00:39:09.269 –> 00:39:12.349
every season like there’s 93 episodes? So there

00:39:12.349 –> 00:39:15.670
are 93 episodes that are full on and then reshot

00:39:15.670 –> 00:39:18.309
to have just you know Some of that less score

00:39:18.309 –> 00:39:20.489
less sex maybe cover the nipple maybe cover the

00:39:20.489 –> 00:39:21.909
butt and stuff like that And just these like

00:39:21.909 –> 00:39:24.889
nuanced little areas. So I thought it was for

00:39:24.889 –> 00:39:29.429
hbo originally What they also did one for fox.

00:39:29.429 –> 00:39:32.030
Is that what you’re saying? Yeah, because um

00:39:32.030 –> 00:39:35.369
hbo had uh Yeah, the uncut stuff, but then like

00:39:35.369 –> 00:39:36.909
whenever they did the reruns for a little bit.

00:39:36.909 –> 00:39:39.300
They couldn’t It may not have been like Fox it

00:39:39.300 –> 00:39:40.840
may have been like ABC whatever the local channel.

00:39:41.239 –> 00:39:42.940
They syndicated it to like a network. And so

00:39:42.940 –> 00:39:45.699
those were actually Edited because you know they

00:39:45.699 –> 00:39:48.300
were on right I just from a from a filmmaking

00:39:48.300 –> 00:39:50.599
perspective It’s I it’s interesting that they

00:39:50.599 –> 00:39:53.380
had that plan from the beginning You know because

00:39:53.380 –> 00:39:55.039
like they didn’t know it was gonna be a hit in

00:39:55.039 –> 00:39:58.539
theory The funny thing is so I looked up the

00:39:58.539 –> 00:40:00.139
history because I was like how did this come

00:40:00.139 –> 00:40:04.000
about and so? A little background on it it premiered

00:40:04.000 –> 00:40:07.039
in 1989 and ran through 96 I didn’t realize it

00:40:07.039 –> 00:40:09.079
ran that many years, even though I knew there

00:40:09.079 –> 00:40:11.940
was a lot of seasons because I do have the DVDs.

00:40:12.219 –> 00:40:15.519
But it was there’s basically a failed pilot from

00:40:15.519 –> 00:40:18.400
a different show called Two Fisted Tales that

00:40:18.400 –> 00:40:25.900
Fox passed on. So basically, I guess that’s where

00:40:25.900 –> 00:40:28.179
HBO wanted it because they were like, hey, we

00:40:28.179 –> 00:40:31.130
could get some original content that’s. uncensored

00:40:31.130 –> 00:40:34.769
and that would be competing with home video rentals,

00:40:34.889 –> 00:40:36.949
which is why I’m like, yeah. So they went now.

00:40:37.090 –> 00:40:38.510
That would have been the appeal that they were

00:40:38.510 –> 00:40:42.530
showing Gore and extra scary things. Right. Interesting,

00:40:42.650 –> 00:40:44.210
interesting. But yeah, I agree with you, Taffy.

00:40:44.230 –> 00:40:48.030
Like I have very clear memories of being pretty

00:40:48.030 –> 00:40:49.809
young and watching Tales from the Crypt and really

00:40:49.809 –> 00:40:54.400
loving it. You know, in fact, I think I could

00:40:54.400 –> 00:40:57.099
even attribute to like my very early desire to

00:40:57.099 –> 00:40:59.440
work in special effects, which ultimately led

00:40:59.440 –> 00:41:02.780
to me wanting to be a filmmaker is from watching

00:41:02.780 –> 00:41:05.440
Tales from the Crypt and the Crypt Keeper and

00:41:05.440 –> 00:41:08.000
the animatronics and some of the like. you know,

00:41:08.239 –> 00:41:10.239
practical effects they did were really cool.

00:41:10.539 –> 00:41:13.019
Like from the opening scene that was like, you

00:41:13.019 –> 00:41:14.940
know, it’s a miniature, you know, castle, that

00:41:14.940 –> 00:41:17.340
whole opening scene that’s iconic with the cemetery

00:41:17.340 –> 00:41:19.239
and going up the castle or the haunted house.

00:41:19.460 –> 00:41:21.800
That’s a miniature to Mike Ross’s artwork that

00:41:21.800 –> 00:41:25.000
he did for all episodes to recreate like the

00:41:25.000 –> 00:41:27.239
look of the original EC comics. Like he created

00:41:27.239 –> 00:41:29.570
those covers that you see at the very end. of,

00:41:29.650 –> 00:41:31.110
you know, after the Crypt Keeper laughs and then

00:41:31.110 –> 00:41:33.329
it kind of transitions into like whatever the

00:41:33.329 –> 00:41:34.969
Crypt Keeper’s saying and then he talks about

00:41:34.969 –> 00:41:36.710
it and then there’s that art. And that’s what

00:41:36.710 –> 00:41:38.789
hit me. Like that was like the main thing for

00:41:38.789 –> 00:41:41.210
me because I’ve always really, really loved like

00:41:41.210 –> 00:41:44.489
art. And so that was what. kept me going as I

00:41:44.489 –> 00:41:46.929
wanted to see how he would draw this stuff every

00:41:46.929 –> 00:41:50.050
every every episode. So everything was just so

00:41:50.050 –> 00:41:51.909
perfectly put together. And I can’t think of

00:41:51.909 –> 00:41:54.769
another series of horror that is able to execute

00:41:54.769 –> 00:41:56.829
it from the beginning to the ending with all

00:41:56.829 –> 00:41:59.070
these stars given like, you know, I had seven

00:41:59.070 –> 00:42:01.110
seasons and so towards the end, maybe like six

00:42:01.110 –> 00:42:02.849
and seven, because I think the last season they

00:42:02.849 –> 00:42:05.789
sent overseas wasn’t as good. But like the first

00:42:05.789 –> 00:42:08.110
like five to six seasons of just the core stuff

00:42:08.110 –> 00:42:11.630
is just I think it’s perfect. I. I got a question

00:42:11.630 –> 00:42:15.429
for you when at the beginning they always show

00:42:15.429 –> 00:42:18.610
the comic, right? And like panels from the comic

00:42:18.610 –> 00:42:21.289
is that are those the real comic books or are

00:42:21.289 –> 00:42:24.090
those like that the episodes are based on or

00:42:24.090 –> 00:42:27.630
did they make those images for the television

00:42:27.630 –> 00:42:31.010
show? They made those. And that comic is by Mike

00:42:31.010 –> 00:42:33.110
Bossberg. He’s the one that was a storyboarder

00:42:33.110 –> 00:42:35.989
for a lot of that stuff. And then he did those

00:42:35.989 –> 00:42:37.849
those comics that you’re talking about because

00:42:37.849 –> 00:42:40.809
those. Each episode is based off a small story

00:42:40.809 –> 00:42:44.570
in Crime Patrol or Weird Science or any of the

00:42:44.570 –> 00:42:47.190
other EC titles they had. But every one of those

00:42:47.190 –> 00:42:51.110
93 episodes, he did the original art to make

00:42:51.110 –> 00:42:53.889
it look like that transition. At my time at Heritage,

00:42:54.050 –> 00:42:55.849
I actually got to see a lot of that original

00:42:55.849 –> 00:42:59.349
art in his rough sketches for all of that. And

00:42:59.349 –> 00:43:02.050
that was amazing. That just sent me. I was like,

00:43:02.090 –> 00:43:05.679
oh my god. You didn’t bid on any of it? No, I

00:43:05.679 –> 00:43:09.500
know when I’m done. I know when I can’t afford

00:43:09.500 –> 00:43:12.719
stuff. Taffa, here’s another question for you.

00:43:12.739 –> 00:43:16.579
Do you know if every issue of the Tales from

00:43:16.579 –> 00:43:19.179
the Crypt comic had been turned into an episode

00:43:19.179 –> 00:43:23.079
of the show? Not every. Not every? Because again,

00:43:23.119 –> 00:43:24.539
because there wasn’t actually like a Tales from

00:43:24.539 –> 00:43:26.760
the Crypt comic at first. It was like Crime Patrol

00:43:26.760 –> 00:43:28.559
and it was weird science and it was like weird

00:43:28.559 –> 00:43:30.739
fantasy that had a bunch of stuff under the EC

00:43:30.739 –> 00:43:33.130
and it wasn’t I think until maybe like… it

00:43:33.130 –> 00:43:35.929
got pretty popular as an ongoing series that

00:43:35.929 –> 00:43:37.929
they put it in to tell us from the crypt. Because

00:43:37.929 –> 00:43:41.070
even the movie Weird Science, the John Hughes

00:43:41.070 –> 00:43:43.909
movie, that is from a small story in the Weird

00:43:43.909 –> 00:43:50.329
Science EC collection itself. So they could have

00:43:50.329 –> 00:43:53.710
theoretically kept going as a show. Absolutely.

00:43:54.349 –> 00:43:56.730
Yeah. Anyone out there that wants to, you should.

00:43:57.110 –> 00:43:58.690
Because there’s a lot of stories that have not

00:43:58.690 –> 00:44:05.159
been tapped. You know really boost shutter subscription

00:44:05.159 –> 00:44:08.780
is a sign that they might remake this I was about

00:44:08.780 –> 00:44:10.780
to say this may be like a prelude to test the

00:44:10.780 –> 00:44:12.340
waters just to be like hey because they’re the

00:44:12.340 –> 00:44:14.960
ones who actually revived creep show which was

00:44:14.960 –> 00:44:17.440
also kind of a You know a competitor of tales

00:44:17.440 –> 00:44:19.260
from the crypt and it kept going despite some

00:44:19.260 –> 00:44:22.659
of it’s not so great You know movies or series

00:44:22.659 –> 00:44:24.320
adaptations, but tales from the crypt has been

00:44:24.320 –> 00:44:25.960
one of these things It’s been on a hard lockdown

00:44:25.960 –> 00:44:28.260
for a very long time. So that’s why I was really

00:44:28.260 –> 00:44:30.039
like, oh my god You guys are releasing it at

00:44:30.039 –> 00:44:32.940
least for us. That’s so great. Well Any remake,

00:44:33.000 –> 00:44:35.480
they have to use the original puppet because

00:44:35.480 –> 00:44:39.559
if they tried to like make it CG or, you know,

00:44:39.659 –> 00:44:41.440
make it too fancy, I feel like it would just

00:44:41.440 –> 00:44:44.980
kill the spirit. What’s what I found interesting

00:44:44.980 –> 00:44:47.860
is I guess also Tales from the Crypt was originally

00:44:47.860 –> 00:44:52.260
going to be a film that became an anthology and

00:44:52.260 –> 00:44:56.460
then Body Bags, which was like what Showtime

00:44:56.460 –> 00:44:58.239
wanted to compete with Tales from the Crypt.

00:44:58.320 –> 00:45:00.619
They brought on John Carpenter and they filmed

00:45:00.619 –> 00:45:03.750
the couple. But then they decided to turn that

00:45:03.750 –> 00:45:07.869
into an anthology feature. So you kind of get

00:45:07.869 –> 00:45:10.289
the best of both worlds if you’re into that stuff.

00:45:11.070 –> 00:45:13.449
Yeah. Very cool. And you know, we should also

00:45:13.449 –> 00:45:16.650
just it’s a small thing, but the logo is so iconic

00:45:16.650 –> 00:45:20.110
as well. You know, like I don’t know if that

00:45:20.110 –> 00:45:22.110
font existed before Tales from the Crypt, but

00:45:22.110 –> 00:45:24.889
I mean, that is like basically the classic horror

00:45:24.889 –> 00:45:27.699
font that everybody uses now. Yeah, I’m over

00:45:27.699 –> 00:45:29.119
looking at my DVDs right now. I’m like, that

00:45:29.119 –> 00:45:33.400
is really a good font. Well, Andy got the theme,

00:45:33.619 –> 00:45:37.000
right, with Danny Elfman. I mean, The Simpsons

00:45:37.000 –> 00:45:40.599
is probably the biggest piece of music that he’s

00:45:40.599 –> 00:45:43.639
composed that’s the most famous. But The Tales

00:45:43.639 –> 00:45:46.780
from the Crook theme was also just like, yeah,

00:45:47.000 –> 00:45:49.679
that’s always going to be in my head. I mean,

00:45:49.760 –> 00:45:53.119
you know, it’s funny you say that because…

00:45:53.549 –> 00:45:56.250
This is an aside, but I feel like the most famous

00:45:56.250 –> 00:45:57.710
Danny Elfman thing I would have said is something

00:45:57.710 –> 00:46:01.869
like more from like Nightmare Before Christmas

00:46:01.869 –> 00:46:05.329
or Tim Burton movie. But no, but the Simpsons

00:46:05.329 –> 00:46:07.869
theme. No, no, no, it is. You’re right. You’re

00:46:07.869 –> 00:46:09.730
not wrong. I just like didn’t even think about

00:46:09.730 –> 00:46:11.130
it. But like I would have thought I would have

00:46:11.130 –> 00:46:14.570
said like, you know, Tim Burton film. Yeah. I

00:46:14.570 –> 00:46:16.769
mean, he’s no he’s associated with Tim Burton,

00:46:17.050 –> 00:46:19.539
but I. Off the top of my head, I don’t even know

00:46:19.539 –> 00:46:21.840
if I could pull one from that. I could name some

00:46:21.840 –> 00:46:24.280
Boy You Go Boy You Go songs. Dude, I mean, he

00:46:24.280 –> 00:46:27.659
probably would have been way more richer than

00:46:27.659 –> 00:46:30.039
any of us will ever be just from writing the

00:46:30.039 –> 00:46:32.639
theme song. to The Simpsons. Yeah. And it’s a

00:46:32.639 –> 00:46:34.179
nice juxtaposition because that was right around

00:46:34.179 –> 00:46:35.860
the same time both those series were coming out.

00:46:35.880 –> 00:46:38.539
So you’ve got this like really bright, you know,

00:46:38.679 –> 00:46:40.940
animated, you know, family friendly, you know,

00:46:41.039 –> 00:46:43.139
show. But then HBO, they’re also like, come up

00:46:43.139 –> 00:46:45.340
with something just really, really creepy, dude.

00:46:45.599 –> 00:46:48.059
And he’s like, oh, I like this better. Yeah.

00:46:48.840 –> 00:46:50.840
Again, the production, everything was just so

00:46:50.840 –> 00:46:53.239
nuanced with this production that just made it

00:46:53.239 –> 00:46:55.739
so perfect. And I’m so so glad we all get to

00:46:55.739 –> 00:46:58.659
experience it again. Like as someone who grew

00:46:58.659 –> 00:47:00.760
up watching, you know, you had the Twilight Zone

00:47:00.760 –> 00:47:03.800
amazing stories Tales from the Dark Side, right?

00:47:04.019 –> 00:47:05.900
The Tales from the Crypt felt like Tales from

00:47:05.900 –> 00:47:10.300
the Dark Side with a budget Because if you watch

00:47:10.300 –> 00:47:12.019
the Tales from the Dark Side episodes, you can

00:47:12.019 –> 00:47:13.880
really see that that’s like a shoestring thing,

00:47:13.880 –> 00:47:16.400
but then you look at Tales from the Crypt and

00:47:16.400 –> 00:47:18.739
you’re like, yeah, man, there’s serious production

00:47:18.739 –> 00:47:22.960
value Of the time, you know it and I was thinking

00:47:22.960 –> 00:47:25.389
a lot about this when I was watching these episodes

00:47:25.389 –> 00:47:28.090
that we’re going to discuss because Well, it

00:47:28.090 –> 00:47:30.369
is from the 80s, right? And it has that flavor

00:47:30.369 –> 00:47:33.670
for sure, but 89 89. Yeah, but like I was like,

00:47:33.670 –> 00:47:35.750
you know what? There’s nothing in a lot of these

00:47:35.750 –> 00:47:38.750
stories that is actually that expensive to make

00:47:38.750 –> 00:47:41.730
like well And they’re all like 20 minutes long

00:47:41.730 –> 00:47:44.070
or something, right? They’re 30 minutes, but

00:47:44.070 –> 00:47:46.809
there’s no commercials, but they did have really

00:47:46.809 –> 00:47:49.230
big 30 minutes maybe with the wraparound but

00:47:49.230 –> 00:47:52.050
like the actual stories are about I mean, they’re

00:47:52.050 –> 00:47:55.190
yeah 25 minutes, but like you know, that’s how

00:47:55.190 –> 00:47:59.050
long Last Call was. So I was just like, you know,

00:47:59.110 –> 00:48:00.929
the original version of Last Call before we edited

00:48:00.929 –> 00:48:02.789
down some, but like I was just thinking about

00:48:02.789 –> 00:48:05.530
they’re basically making a short film a week

00:48:05.530 –> 00:48:09.530
and none of that was that crazy. I mean, while

00:48:09.530 –> 00:48:12.829
some of them, okay, the ones that we watched.

00:48:13.219 –> 00:48:14.719
perhaps they were a little bit easier to pull

00:48:14.719 –> 00:48:16.840
off. But there are other episodes that are like

00:48:16.840 –> 00:48:19.000
the money went into the monsters and to the monsters.

00:48:19.280 –> 00:48:21.800
Exactly. Because the end of the progress. I imagine

00:48:21.800 –> 00:48:23.760
the cast, you have like Schwarzenegger at the

00:48:23.760 –> 00:48:26.400
height of his powers in an episode. You know,

00:48:26.519 –> 00:48:29.000
like point. Good point. And I mean, all the producers

00:48:29.000 –> 00:48:32.619
is like Robert Zemeckis and Walter Hill and Richard.

00:48:32.840 –> 00:48:35.139
You know, really big. You know, that’s absolutely

00:48:35.139 –> 00:48:37.119
true. It was more just that I noticed that it

00:48:37.119 –> 00:48:39.610
was almost all soundstage. You know, like they

00:48:39.610 –> 00:48:41.829
clearly like just like had a soundstage and they’re

00:48:41.829 –> 00:48:43.829
like, well, it’s gonna be an episode Yeah, but

00:48:43.829 –> 00:48:46.670
I mean it’s it’s HBO who Game of Thrones episodes,

00:48:46.690 –> 00:48:48.510
right? Look at that. So they they had the money

00:48:48.510 –> 00:48:50.929
to yeah, there’s a home box office That was them

00:48:50.929 –> 00:48:52.769
in their prime This was them like, you know throwing

00:48:52.769 –> 00:48:54.590
around that fuck you money to all the network

00:48:54.590 –> 00:48:56.130
televisions to where they were like, you know

00:48:56.130 –> 00:48:58.130
Here we are like we’re coming out with a lot

00:48:58.130 –> 00:49:00.190
of stuff. Yeah from the crypt I think really

00:49:00.190 –> 00:49:02.789
set them apart so much so that it got a Animated

00:49:02.789 –> 00:49:04.510
series, which I still watch you can find that

00:49:04.510 –> 00:49:07.280
on 2b. I mean, it’s still you know, it’s It’s

00:49:07.280 –> 00:49:08.719
not like, you know, obviously it’s not creepy

00:49:08.719 –> 00:49:10.159
like this, but you know, it’s kind of like a

00:49:10.159 –> 00:49:11.719
Scooby Doo with just a little bit more ghosts

00:49:11.719 –> 00:49:13.860
than it, you know, and then it had to spin off

00:49:13.860 –> 00:49:17.539
movies. So I think I think it’s done pretty well

00:49:17.539 –> 00:49:19.559
considering, you know, what I think is interesting

00:49:19.559 –> 00:49:22.219
about it, too. And I don’t know if you’re planning

00:49:22.219 –> 00:49:25.860
on talking about this, but the way that they

00:49:25.860 –> 00:49:28.579
tell the stories, it’s like there’s always a

00:49:28.579 –> 00:49:31.179
twist and there’s always like it’s interesting

00:49:31.179 –> 00:49:33.420
because it’s always like there’s a morality to

00:49:33.420 –> 00:49:36.340
it. Yes. Yes. Which I find interesting, you know,

00:49:36.400 –> 00:49:39.719
like you don’t see that in horror often. But

00:49:39.719 –> 00:49:42.500
well, I’ll say the three episodes we’re talking

00:49:42.500 –> 00:49:44.980
about are all driven by greed. Like they they’re

00:49:44.980 –> 00:49:47.440
probably they’re mining the sin of people. Right.

00:49:47.739 –> 00:49:51.300
And what’s also really interesting about this

00:49:51.300 –> 00:49:55.519
is it shows you don’t need a likable protagonist

00:49:55.519 –> 00:49:57.320
because you kind of want to see these people

00:49:57.320 –> 00:50:00.659
get their get theirs. Right. Right. It kind of

00:50:00.659 –> 00:50:03.570
brings that out because it’s not. usually a good

00:50:03.570 –> 00:50:08.570
person who’s, you know, leading the story. Totally.

00:50:09.130 –> 00:50:11.800
Usually a little bit immoral. Yeah, no, absolutely

00:50:11.800 –> 00:50:13.820
like and that and I think that’s kind of what

00:50:13.820 –> 00:50:15.579
feels it for me too is because of someone who

00:50:15.579 –> 00:50:18.400
has a very strong sense of justice and I think

00:50:18.400 –> 00:50:20.159
that’s why I like a lot of these horror things

00:50:20.159 –> 00:50:22.760
because I know there’s so much unjust in the

00:50:22.760 –> 00:50:24.519
world like in the world we live on you know that

00:50:24.519 –> 00:50:26.380
I love being able to see some of these people

00:50:26.380 –> 00:50:29.139
get there, you know, it comes back around. Yeah,

00:50:29.260 –> 00:50:31.039
it always comes back around and tells from the

00:50:31.039 –> 00:50:32.940
crypt and you know, a lot of these anthologies

00:50:32.940 –> 00:50:35.760
or vignettes and stuff. I’m curious. Do you think

00:50:35.760 –> 00:50:38.019
that the writers of the comic book like that

00:50:38.019 –> 00:50:42.059
was their intent? And then the series just went

00:50:42.059 –> 00:50:44.880
with that or did, you know, the people developing

00:50:44.880 –> 00:50:47.579
the series were like, let’s pick stories where,

00:50:48.159 –> 00:50:52.380
you know, it has this kind of moral part to it.

00:50:52.599 –> 00:50:54.579
I would think Bill Gaines for sure did because

00:50:54.579 –> 00:50:56.719
he wrote all these stories pretty much the same

00:50:56.719 –> 00:50:58.960
way. Like they all have that lesson in there.

00:50:58.960 –> 00:51:01.219
There is a lesson in all these stories and it

00:51:01.219 –> 00:51:04.099
usually is. There’s very real horrors in the

00:51:04.099 –> 00:51:05.679
world. And he turned them into these, like, you

00:51:05.679 –> 00:51:07.579
know, stories to where those people would eventually

00:51:07.579 –> 00:51:11.630
get theirs. What years did the publication for

00:51:11.630 –> 00:51:14.769
the original comics? Do you have decades? I think

00:51:14.769 –> 00:51:17.030
59. Yeah, 59. And then they went through that

00:51:17.030 –> 00:51:19.070
whole, you know, there was a big hysteria about

00:51:19.070 –> 00:51:21.010
it and they had the trials of innocence and stuff

00:51:21.010 –> 00:51:23.369
that we kind of mentioned in one of these other

00:51:23.369 –> 00:51:25.230
shows that we had talked about to where like

00:51:25.230 –> 00:51:26.889
he had to go to Congress and they had to like

00:51:26.889 –> 00:51:32.369
literally, you know, show that they weren’t satanists.

00:51:32.750 –> 00:51:34.210
You know, this was probably the first round of

00:51:34.210 –> 00:51:37.210
the satanic. panic at so much. Oh, it led to

00:51:37.210 –> 00:51:39.690
the comics code because of this interrogation

00:51:39.690 –> 00:51:43.329
and because of Dr. Frederick. Warm, warm, warm

00:51:43.329 –> 00:51:46.789
him worth them worth them. I wonder if the morality

00:51:46.789 –> 00:51:51.769
aspects of it were to anticipating a bit like

00:51:51.769 –> 00:51:54.610
the reaction, you know, like, oh, I could develop,

00:51:54.769 –> 00:51:58.650
delve into this dark topic as long as it’s saying

00:51:58.650 –> 00:52:00.550
something somewhat positive, you know, or let

00:52:00.550 –> 00:52:04.340
the takeaway. Yeah, it’s all it’s 19. Sorry,

00:52:04.340 –> 00:52:07.219
it’s 1949, not 59. When the very first Crime

00:52:07.219 –> 00:52:09.780
Patrol came out. Does that predate the Twilight

00:52:09.780 –> 00:52:13.039
Zone? Because that also kind of had a moral narrative

00:52:13.039 –> 00:52:16.960
driving the episodes. I don’t know exactly when

00:52:16.960 –> 00:52:18.659
the Twilight Zones came out, but yeah, the very

00:52:18.659 –> 00:52:21.480
first publication of VCs was 1949. I was a decade

00:52:21.480 –> 00:52:25.000
off, sorry. So I would say it probably does maybe

00:52:25.000 –> 00:52:26.340
predate the Twilight Zone. I think Twilight Zone

00:52:26.340 –> 00:52:28.539
was the 50s, right? Like the TV show? That’s

00:52:28.539 –> 00:52:31.360
what I was thinking. So I mean, maybe that was

00:52:31.360 –> 00:52:36.019
in the zeitgeist of short Story form like you

00:52:36.019 –> 00:52:38.260
know for that reason that hey, you know, the

00:52:38.260 –> 00:52:40.699
world’s not just but if you create these stories

00:52:40.699 –> 00:52:45.400
that are That’s someone will learn from it right

00:52:45.400 –> 00:52:48.880
so it looks like the Twilight Zone Originated

00:52:48.880 –> 00:52:54.199
in 1959. So yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah So just about

00:52:54.199 –> 00:52:56.199
a decade before when they were doing their first

00:52:56.199 –> 00:52:59.179
very small stories, you know, it’s interesting

00:52:59.179 –> 00:53:03.219
that the Tales from the Crypt the TV show was

00:53:03.239 –> 00:53:08.400
early 80s or late 80s, late 80s, 89 through 96

00:53:08.400 –> 00:53:11.679
is what I. So they basically took comics from

00:53:11.679 –> 00:53:14.800
40 years earlier and turned it into a TV show.

00:53:15.019 –> 00:53:17.760
That’s I mean, that’s a bit of a gamble. Right.

00:53:17.820 –> 00:53:20.900
I mean, when you look at the way that the industry

00:53:20.900 –> 00:53:24.820
works now, they’re not buying IP from, you know,

00:53:24.960 –> 00:53:28.760
40 years ago, like. Mean well, maybe they are

00:53:28.760 –> 00:53:31.119
I guess but but it’s usually like a reboot of

00:53:31.119 –> 00:53:33.719
something mainstream kind of was and the blob

00:53:33.719 –> 00:53:36.239
was and you know those were Picked from like

00:53:36.239 –> 00:53:38.639
the 30s and 40s and 50s and stuff and I think

00:53:38.639 –> 00:53:40.260
maybe at the time whenever this was starting

00:53:40.260 –> 00:53:42.679
to become bigger Like we were coming off of that,

00:53:42.760 –> 00:53:44.840
you know the whole decade of 80s slashers and

00:53:44.840 –> 00:53:47.000
monsters and you know What’s what’s the next

00:53:47.000 –> 00:53:48.820
thing? And so it would kind of make sense They

00:53:48.820 –> 00:53:50.420
would go into the horror archives to see what

00:53:50.420 –> 00:53:53.619
they could pull from and it’s all that stuff

00:53:53.619 –> 00:53:57.500
is like new but different, you know, or same,

00:53:57.579 –> 00:53:59.539
but different, you know, but it’s like, oh, it’s

00:53:59.539 –> 00:54:01.699
obscure. So it’s like, it’s an IP. I mean, I

00:54:01.699 –> 00:54:04.400
don’t know how date, how far we go back where

00:54:04.400 –> 00:54:07.679
IPs were what like Hollywood had its site set

00:54:07.679 –> 00:54:11.260
on. Um, but yeah, if it’s a source, it’s got

00:54:11.260 –> 00:54:13.920
a proven audience. It makes more, it’s less of

00:54:13.920 –> 00:54:16.179
a risk. It’s fair. It’s fair. Well, we want to

00:54:16.179 –> 00:54:19.429
talk about these episodes. Let’s do it. Yeah,

00:54:19.429 –> 00:54:20.570
I mean, you can go over some of them, I mean,

00:54:20.670 –> 00:54:22.010
because there’s only six that have been released.

00:54:22.070 –> 00:54:24.949
And so like the a few of my favorites are on

00:54:24.949 –> 00:54:27.909
this one. And so, yeah, it’s always like we can

00:54:27.909 –> 00:54:30.690
talk about, you know, a few of them. Yeah, let’s

00:54:30.690 –> 00:54:35.039
do it. What’s what’s the first one? My favorite

00:54:35.039 –> 00:54:38.639
of all time is Cindy, because I love Leah Thompson

00:54:38.639 –> 00:54:41.920
so, so much. And when I met her a few years ago

00:54:41.920 –> 00:54:43.360
at a convention, when they were doing the whole

00:54:43.360 –> 00:54:45.260
Back to the Future thing, like I actually showed

00:54:45.260 –> 00:54:47.500
up with one of my Tales from the Crypt DVDs that

00:54:47.500 –> 00:54:50.250
she sent from that episode. and had her sign

00:54:50.250 –> 00:54:52.170
it. And, you know, she did the whole voice and

00:54:52.170 –> 00:54:54.070
she like broke down into character and I lost

00:54:54.070 –> 00:54:55.570
it. Are you kidding me? She’s like, wasn’t that

00:54:55.570 –> 00:54:57.630
such a great character? And I was like, you still

00:54:57.630 –> 00:54:59.929
nailed that voice. Damn. And she was like, I

00:54:59.929 –> 00:55:01.409
love that so much. It was one of my favorite

00:55:01.409 –> 00:55:05.610
highlights. And yes, and deep is just I don’t

00:55:05.610 –> 00:55:08.809
know. It is it. I don’t know what attracts me

00:55:08.809 –> 00:55:12.690
to it. I think it’s. the guy, the bodega guy,

00:55:12.809 –> 00:55:14.769
like he’s just so evil and weird and everything

00:55:14.769 –> 00:55:17.769
about it is so grimy. And like here she is as

00:55:17.769 –> 00:55:19.769
this like, you know, gorgeous young woman willing

00:55:19.769 –> 00:55:22.349
to do anything she can to keep her keep her beauty.

00:55:22.409 –> 00:55:25.050
And then at the end, it’s everyone still gets

00:55:25.050 –> 00:55:30.340
fucked over. Well, it’s well Looking at it. I

00:55:30.340 –> 00:55:33.300
was like this is interesting because it’s yeah,

00:55:33.360 –> 00:55:35.500
it’s Leah Thompson And of course she was it back

00:55:35.500 –> 00:55:38.639
to the future Robert Zemeckis, but it was directed

00:55:38.639 –> 00:55:42.320
by Howard Dooch Dutch I might be mispronouncing

00:55:42.320 –> 00:55:44.519
that and he was the director of pretty in pink.

00:55:44.559 –> 00:55:47.739
So I was like that’s kind of wild But I was crazy

00:55:47.739 –> 00:55:50.719
to think pretty in pink was like For for those

00:55:50.719 –> 00:55:52.760
like 80s high school movies was a little bit

00:55:52.760 –> 00:55:55.389
more edgy than the other ones, you know Yeah,

00:55:55.610 –> 00:55:59.730
I can see that. But it was written by Fred Decker,

00:56:00.130 –> 00:56:03.289
who wrote another one. He’s Monster Squad. So

00:56:03.289 –> 00:56:07.170
it’s cool seeing all these names going back and

00:56:07.170 –> 00:56:09.929
being a little more educated on who the filmmakers

00:56:09.929 –> 00:56:12.469
and writers and everyone were at the time. It’s

00:56:12.469 –> 00:56:15.510
probably one of those series that we have some

00:56:15.510 –> 00:56:19.519
now. The Simpsons is a good example, but like

00:56:19.519 –> 00:56:23.320
a lot of where the Nexus were a lot of like upcoming

00:56:23.320 –> 00:56:26.820
talent got their start. Not to say that these

00:56:26.820 –> 00:56:28.699
everyone involved is upcoming. I don’t mean that

00:56:28.699 –> 00:56:30.780
at all, but like, you know, there’s just every

00:56:30.780 –> 00:56:32.159
once in a while there are these projects where

00:56:32.159 –> 00:56:34.380
it’s like it brings together like a ton of people

00:56:34.380 –> 00:56:37.400
who go on to define the next few years of, you

00:56:37.400 –> 00:56:40.880
know. Pop culture television movies that kind

00:56:40.880 –> 00:56:42.980
of stuff I mean they eventually did like, you

00:56:42.980 –> 00:56:44.659
know and this is again as a few seasons in where

00:56:44.659 –> 00:56:46.840
they just superimposed and used like, you know

00:56:48.489 –> 00:56:52.469
My mind is blank. Oh my gosh, Bogart. Yeah, an

00:56:52.469 –> 00:56:54.429
episode, you know, which was really weird how

00:56:54.429 –> 00:56:56.150
they did that to where they actually did like

00:56:56.150 –> 00:56:58.289
a reflective mirror to where you could have his

00:56:58.289 –> 00:57:00.269
voice that they actually use. And then they would

00:57:00.269 –> 00:57:02.130
sometimes put him because it was done in a first

00:57:02.130 –> 00:57:05.130
person point of view as, you know, Humphrey Bogart’s

00:57:05.130 –> 00:57:06.769
narration. And then sometimes you would see him

00:57:06.769 –> 00:57:08.610
in a reflection or you would see him as other

00:57:08.610 –> 00:57:10.630
people saw him. So, I mean, they even brought

00:57:10.630 –> 00:57:14.150
in like dead people to come play into their into

00:57:14.150 –> 00:57:16.570
their world. And I don’t know very many people

00:57:16.570 –> 00:57:19.039
at the time who could have gotten away with pulling

00:57:19.039 –> 00:57:23.500
the essence of hungry, hungry shit. Hungry Bogart

00:57:23.500 –> 00:57:27.139
into a horror series. Hungry Bogart. Well, now

00:57:27.139 –> 00:57:30.820
that’s a reality because you have all the AI

00:57:30.820 –> 00:57:34.079
debt. Yeah, right? Yeah, right. Shit, yeah. But

00:57:34.079 –> 00:57:36.460
no, I do remember that episode now that you mentioned

00:57:36.460 –> 00:57:38.800
it. I don’t remember much of the crime ones that

00:57:38.800 –> 00:57:40.360
were later, but you said that that was like an

00:57:40.360 –> 00:57:43.000
later episode, right? Yeah. But I do remember

00:57:43.000 –> 00:57:45.119
that. Yeah, they pulled a lot of the horror stuff

00:57:45.119 –> 00:57:46.840
and the weird sci -fi stuff at the beginning.

00:57:46.960 –> 00:57:48.340
And then towards the end, they kind of started

00:57:48.340 –> 00:57:50.119
going and pulling a lot more thrillers and more

00:57:50.119 –> 00:57:53.219
of the crime wars, which was the one where Bogart

00:57:53.219 –> 00:57:56.780
made a cameo. But even though the horror ones

00:57:56.780 –> 00:58:00.619
are like mostly crime, at least the ones we were

00:58:00.619 –> 00:58:03.579
going to discuss, right? Like crime is a huge

00:58:03.579 –> 00:58:08.380
element driven by greed. That’s all of them were.

00:58:08.519 –> 00:58:11.420
Yeah, because even the Santa Claus one and all

00:58:11.420 –> 00:58:14.090
through the house. I mean, that is literally

00:58:14.090 –> 00:58:17.849
the wife is, you know, trying to. Right. Well,

00:58:17.969 –> 00:58:19.929
yeah, her husband out going back to like how

00:58:19.929 –> 00:58:23.110
it originated. I mean, in the 40s, I imagine

00:58:23.110 –> 00:58:25.789
like that was the root of horror was probably

00:58:25.789 –> 00:58:27.730
more about crime and things like that than like

00:58:27.730 –> 00:58:29.590
a supernatural thing, because I feel like that

00:58:29.590 –> 00:58:33.110
was more something that came out later. Well,

00:58:33.110 –> 00:58:35.389
no, you still had all the like the famous monsters,

00:58:35.409 –> 00:58:37.090
right? Well, they really are. They were monster,

00:58:37.210 –> 00:58:39.110
monster features and stuff. But, you know, there

00:58:39.110 –> 00:58:41.610
wasn’t like I think like when you really think

00:58:41.610 –> 00:58:44.260
about You know, we’re looking at Tales of the

00:58:44.260 –> 00:58:46.900
Crypt through a modern lens and now, like, so

00:58:46.900 –> 00:58:49.840
much of our horror is, you know, permeated by,

00:58:49.840 –> 00:58:53.920
like, spirits and demons and supernatural and

00:58:53.920 –> 00:58:56.079
occult kinds of things. And, you know, not to

00:58:56.079 –> 00:58:58.059
say that didn’t exist before, but I just wonder

00:58:58.059 –> 00:59:01.739
if, like, the 40s lens, like, is just different,

00:59:01.820 –> 00:59:05.980
you know? Right. Yeah, we need someone from the

00:59:05.980 –> 00:59:13.340
40s. Yeah, so that was a good episode. I really,

00:59:14.139 –> 00:59:18.619
she was such an unlikable, like, would you even

00:59:18.619 –> 00:59:23.519
call her the, what’s the word for the person

00:59:23.519 –> 00:59:27.320
that you’re? Antagonist? Yeah. I mean, I guess

00:59:27.320 –> 00:59:29.380
she was the antagonist, protagonist. Oh yeah,

00:59:29.380 –> 00:59:31.159
for sure. She was definitely the villain. I mean,

00:59:31.179 –> 00:59:33.099
she has no trouble killing people. But there

00:59:33.099 –> 00:59:35.280
is no protagonist, right? I mean, it’s like only

00:59:35.280 –> 00:59:37.889
an antagonist. Yeah. And most of these are really

00:59:37.889 –> 00:59:39.889
isn’t a protagonist in these episodes. Everything

00:59:39.889 –> 00:59:41.829
is just people getting their own. It’s just,

00:59:41.829 –> 00:59:47.590
uh, yeah. I mean, I could spoil. Am I cool to

00:59:47.590 –> 00:59:51.090
spoil something about this episode? I’m sure.

00:59:51.389 –> 00:59:54.710
Okay. So she does, she does kill a pimp and I’m

00:59:54.710 –> 00:59:56.929
like, Hey, that’s, that’s actually a good deed,

00:59:57.469 –> 01:00:01.710
right? Um, but you know, you did. Ben kind of

01:00:01.710 –> 01:00:03.610
goes from there. Wait, hold up. You don’t know

01:00:03.610 –> 01:00:05.429
anything about this pimp. Maybe he was the pimp

01:00:05.429 –> 01:00:09.010
with a heart of gold. Maybe he had a family he

01:00:09.010 –> 01:00:12.530
was just trying to support. You don’t know. That’s

01:00:12.530 –> 01:00:15.670
true. We didn’t really get his backstory. I mean,

01:00:15.909 –> 01:00:19.389
he was mean to her, though. That’s true. The

01:00:19.389 –> 01:00:21.190
main point of that was showing that she’s ruthless

01:00:21.190 –> 01:00:23.230
and she didn’t even think about it. She didn’t

01:00:23.230 –> 01:00:24.889
try to run away. She didn’t try to let you know.

01:00:24.969 –> 01:00:27.179
It’s not victim shame. She didn’t. her, you know,

01:00:27.239 –> 01:00:29.059
she went straight for the kill. And I think that

01:00:29.059 –> 01:00:31.260
just shows where her like intent was from the

01:00:31.260 –> 01:00:32.960
beginning. It was about, you know, she’s going

01:00:32.960 –> 01:00:35.059
to kill whatever that gets in her way. But I

01:00:35.059 –> 01:00:38.139
love how it’s like older movies and TV shows

01:00:38.139 –> 01:00:41.019
and comic books and things. It’s like they just

01:00:41.019 –> 01:00:44.559
they rely on stereotypes. It’s like we got to

01:00:44.559 –> 01:00:46.659
make her bad. So, of course, she’s a prostitute,

01:00:46.659 –> 01:00:50.260
you know, or like how in earlier movies like

01:00:50.260 –> 01:00:53.360
punk rockers were always just bad people. Yeah,

01:00:53.360 –> 01:00:56.639
it’s a weird pretty woman s types, you know episode

01:00:56.639 –> 01:00:58.719
or story, you know where she’s trying to go from

01:00:58.719 –> 01:01:01.099
being a you know call girl to moving up into

01:01:01.099 –> 01:01:02.920
the penthouse because when she winds up getting

01:01:02.920 –> 01:01:04.559
that money she does this huge transformation

01:01:04.559 –> 01:01:06.300
she goes from wearing these like, you know, she

01:01:06.300 –> 01:01:08.280
even does that symbolic things where she takes

01:01:08.280 –> 01:01:11.099
off all her like, you know, Uncool clothes or

01:01:11.099 –> 01:01:12.920
her like, you know, right night collar clothes

01:01:12.920 –> 01:01:14.440
and throws them on the floor and she goes and

01:01:14.440 –> 01:01:16.400
she gets all these really pretty stuff to go

01:01:16.400 –> 01:01:20.980
chase You know the guy with the money Which is

01:01:20.980 –> 01:01:24.579
every girl’s dream, right? Yeah, no, it didn’t

01:01:24.579 –> 01:01:30.059
help her. I mean. Yeah, I did that. The guy isn’t

01:01:30.059 –> 01:01:32.860
all that likable either, though, really, so.

01:01:33.599 –> 01:01:35.599
Not like it doesn’t mean murder worthy, though.

01:01:36.699 –> 01:01:39.179
No, no, I don’t think he was. I don’t think he

01:01:39.179 –> 01:01:42.420
was worth the killing, you know, because he.

01:01:42.440 –> 01:01:45.199
Desperately like wanted to you know be with her

01:01:45.199 –> 01:01:47.119
and he did like her even said yes You are the

01:01:47.119 –> 01:01:49.139
girl in my dreams and but only cuz she was like

01:01:49.139 –> 01:01:53.239
pretty I mean Essentially at first yeah, but

01:01:53.239 –> 01:01:55.840
you know eventually that does maybe she was also

01:01:55.840 –> 01:01:58.519
a challenge for him too, right? Yeah, you did

01:01:58.519 –> 01:02:00.980
like that. He liked the the little you know chase

01:02:00.980 –> 01:02:03.679
and perhaps That’s the irony in this whole thing

01:02:03.679 –> 01:02:06.000
right is that if she just been herself. She didn’t

01:02:06.000 –> 01:02:08.329
need it She didn’t need the like. She didn’t.

01:02:08.530 –> 01:02:09.710
She just, well, she just needed the money to

01:02:09.710 –> 01:02:11.230
get like one new dress. That’s all she needed

01:02:11.230 –> 01:02:13.949
was one dress. Right. Exactly. Exactly. Well,

01:02:13.969 –> 01:02:15.650
yeah. I mean, now that I think about it, that’s

01:02:15.650 –> 01:02:18.590
kind of a plot hole because she, I guess she

01:02:18.590 –> 01:02:21.889
wouldn’t have had access to that party had she

01:02:21.889 –> 01:02:25.650
not earlier without, without getting into it.

01:02:25.690 –> 01:02:27.710
Right. Yeah. That is kind of an interesting thing

01:02:27.710 –> 01:02:30.449
to consider. I also, I will say the, the final

01:02:30.449 –> 01:02:33.989
punchline I think most people will see coming.

01:02:34.799 –> 01:02:36.780
You guys know what I’m talking about. I don’t

01:02:36.780 –> 01:02:39.920
want to get into spoiling that but yeah, yeah,

01:02:40.019 –> 01:02:41.659
that’s the thing a lot of this stuff It’s not

01:02:41.659 –> 01:02:43.880
like it’s totally hard to miss it coming and

01:02:43.880 –> 01:02:45.800
it’s not like it’s unpredictable because you

01:02:45.800 –> 01:02:49.679
kind of know how these things are gonna end With

01:02:49.679 –> 01:02:51.500
tales from the crib stuff. It’s always got the

01:02:51.500 –> 01:02:53.639
same ending. You know, someone’s gonna get theirs

01:02:53.639 –> 01:02:55.760
That’s what’s so satisfying about it, right?

01:02:55.800 –> 01:02:58.539
Like I mean, you know, I know that generally

01:02:58.539 –> 01:03:01.079
we don’t consider predictability like a good

01:03:01.079 –> 01:03:04.000
thing and like a lot of films and TV shows. But

01:03:04.000 –> 01:03:07.099
like in this case, it kind of is because it’s

01:03:07.099 –> 01:03:13.039
like you’re anticipating that sort of less the

01:03:13.039 –> 01:03:15.480
comeuppance, if you will. And so when it finally

01:03:15.480 –> 01:03:17.599
comes, you’re like, yes. Yeah, you just don’t

01:03:17.599 –> 01:03:19.559
know what direction. It’s almost like Colombo.

01:03:19.679 –> 01:03:21.340
You know, you know how it starts at Colombo,

01:03:21.360 –> 01:03:23.219
but you don’t know how he’s going to get. to

01:03:23.219 –> 01:03:24.880
that conclusion. And that’s kind of like how

01:03:24.880 –> 01:03:26.619
these episodes, you know, something’s happening,

01:03:26.619 –> 01:03:27.960
but you don’t know how it’s going to get there

01:03:27.960 –> 01:03:30.000
or what exactly is going to get them. Yeah. You

01:03:30.000 –> 01:03:33.440
and your Columbus throw that in. Shut up. You

01:03:33.440 –> 01:03:36.099
know, I’m a fan. However, there’s a whole generation

01:03:36.099 –> 01:03:37.739
of kids listening at home who are like, what

01:03:37.739 –> 01:03:39.739
the hell is she talking about? This Colombo guy?

01:03:40.400 –> 01:03:44.900
Yeah. Cool. And what about the other episode

01:03:44.900 –> 01:03:47.059
and all through the house, which has also been

01:03:47.059 –> 01:03:50.460
released? Yeah. That or do you want to lead or?

01:03:50.699 –> 01:03:52.900
No, no, no. Go ahead. Yeah. Was gonna say personally

01:03:52.900 –> 01:03:54.659
that was one of the ones that I remembered the

01:03:54.659 –> 01:03:57.960
most as a kid And maybe just cuz it’s like you

01:03:57.960 –> 01:04:01.340
have a deranged Santa Claus, but when I was watching

01:04:01.340 –> 01:04:06.400
it I was like, this is like really stacked If

01:04:06.400 –> 01:04:08.559
Fred Decker I mentioned it he wrote the last

01:04:08.559 –> 01:04:11.139
one he wrote this too again the guy who directed

01:04:11.139 –> 01:04:13.860
Monster Squad and they the creeps and then it’s

01:04:13.860 –> 01:04:17.360
funny because then the the lead actress is Mary

01:04:17.360 –> 01:04:20.119
Ellen trainer also for Monster Squad and Goonies

01:04:20.400 –> 01:04:25.320
Um, Robert or Zemeckis directed it. Um, then

01:04:25.320 –> 01:04:29.340
you have Larry Drake, who is from Darkman and

01:04:29.340 –> 01:04:33.360
Dr. Giggles. Creepiest Santa ever. Yeah. And

01:04:33.360 –> 01:04:35.699
it’s, it’s cool because you’ve, it starts with

01:04:35.699 –> 01:04:38.159
one thing and then throws this wild card thing

01:04:38.159 –> 01:04:39.880
and you’re like, Oh shit, we’re going with this.

01:04:39.960 –> 01:04:43.559
And it’s the isolation of it and the winter,

01:04:43.760 –> 01:04:48.550
the snow. It’s so well executed. This is actually

01:04:48.550 –> 01:04:51.070
my favorite of the three that we watched in prep

01:04:51.070 –> 01:04:56.530
for the scene. You know, just the technique,

01:04:56.670 –> 01:04:59.329
the directing techniques of like reveals and

01:04:59.329 –> 01:05:02.789
like, you know, the economy of the way that the

01:05:02.789 –> 01:05:05.570
story is told, you know, it’s just like, it’s

01:05:05.570 –> 01:05:08.309
like a masterclass in how to do a short film.

01:05:09.090 –> 01:05:12.030
It’s panel for panel for the comic. Every word.

01:05:12.379 –> 01:05:15.059
every scene, every cut, every angle. It literally

01:05:15.059 –> 01:05:17.059
looks like the comic book. I’m not lying. Like,

01:05:17.059 –> 01:05:18.980
again, like, oh, you know, I’ll find these. I’ll

01:05:18.980 –> 01:05:20.739
find the clips and we can use them. But it is.

01:05:20.739 –> 01:05:22.900
Yeah. Panel for panel. Yeah, that’ll be in the

01:05:22.900 –> 01:05:24.639
show notes. So check that out. They’ve done.

01:05:24.739 –> 01:05:26.739
They did such a good job. And this was actually

01:05:26.739 –> 01:05:29.280
one of the main vignettes in the 1970s movie

01:05:29.280 –> 01:05:31.760
they did as well was all through the night. That’s

01:05:31.760 –> 01:05:33.280
like the kind of the opener with Joan Collins,

01:05:33.460 –> 01:05:35.519
who takes the lead. You’re right. I know. Right.

01:05:35.719 –> 01:05:38.300
That’s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it is. It’s

01:05:38.300 –> 01:05:41.219
just. And even that. That movie or that part

01:05:41.219 –> 01:05:44.559
of the movie is exactly the same in in the series

01:05:44.559 –> 01:05:47.079
because they did it just like the comic book

01:05:47.079 –> 01:05:49.659
Yeah in in my head and for some reason I was

01:05:49.659 –> 01:05:51.739
thinking this was the pilot of tales from the

01:05:51.739 –> 01:05:55.329
crib, but it’s it’s not right I don’t know. Maybe

01:05:55.329 –> 01:05:57.349
this is on like a lot of the ads for the show

01:05:57.349 –> 01:05:59.849
that HBO put on just because it’s like the deranged

01:05:59.849 –> 01:06:03.250
Santa Claus, but yeah. It’s a big one. It was

01:06:03.250 –> 01:06:07.409
a huge part of the EC issue and stuff itself.

01:06:07.449 –> 01:06:09.530
And I share it every Christmas. I share all 12

01:06:09.530 –> 01:06:13.630
pages. It’s so good. You know, as an aside, as

01:06:13.630 –> 01:06:18.150
a new -ish parent, the whole like sub -storyline

01:06:18.150 –> 01:06:23.320
of the daughter just like… I know, right? So

01:06:23.320 –> 01:06:27.280
I do have what, like, I’ll say this. In modern

01:06:27.280 –> 01:06:30.480
movies, and television shows have gotten so savvy,

01:06:31.119 –> 01:06:35.679
you can’t get away with certain things that I’m

01:06:35.679 –> 01:06:38.780
going to point out in this episode. So this is

01:06:38.780 –> 01:06:40.639
a minor spoiler for those who have not seen this,

01:06:40.679 –> 01:06:44.320
but the mother gets trapped in the closet and

01:06:44.320 –> 01:06:46.320
the handle comes off the door. That was great.

01:06:46.340 –> 01:06:48.219
And she’s there because she’s trying to get a

01:06:48.219 –> 01:06:51.230
gun. To defend herself and then she looks out

01:06:51.230 –> 01:06:53.809
the window and there’s evil Santa with a ladder

01:06:53.809 –> 01:06:55.530
climbing up I’m like she could have just taken

01:06:55.530 –> 01:06:57.289
the gun and shot him right dead right there.

01:06:57.369 –> 01:07:00.690
Well, but here’s the thing I was I Was watching

01:07:00.690 –> 01:07:04.469
that and granted we I watched this before they

01:07:04.469 –> 01:07:06.369
dropped in shutter So I was watching the YouTube

01:07:06.369 –> 01:07:09.190
version which might have been an edited version

01:07:09.190 –> 01:07:13.230
for you know, the the more PG version of it or

01:07:13.230 –> 01:07:15.469
something I don’t know, but I saw the gun in

01:07:15.469 –> 01:07:18.150
the closet was on top of the box but like She

01:07:18.150 –> 01:07:21.150
like didn’t see it like or something. No, I think

01:07:21.150 –> 01:07:23.550
she just got distracted by him. Is that what

01:07:23.550 –> 01:07:25.630
it was? Like, why? Because I was like, why didn’t

01:07:25.630 –> 01:07:27.750
she take it? She’d also been drinking. That’s

01:07:27.750 –> 01:07:29.750
at the very beginning. We can’t fault her for

01:07:29.750 –> 01:07:32.210
that. No, not at all. But I’m saying like, you

01:07:32.210 –> 01:07:34.989
know, she’s in a state of, you know, enhanced

01:07:34.989 –> 01:07:37.010
alcohol. It’s the holiday season. She’s nervous.

01:07:37.050 –> 01:07:39.559
She’s panicked. Yeah. I mean, if it was made

01:07:39.559 –> 01:07:41.519
today, what it would be like, she’d get the gun

01:07:41.519 –> 01:07:43.079
and then there wouldn’t be bullets and then there’d

01:07:43.079 –> 01:07:45.539
be a shot of the bullets and a gun safe and the

01:07:45.539 –> 01:07:47.320
other part of that. You know, like just to address

01:07:47.320 –> 01:07:49.659
that, like that’s not an option for her. Right.

01:07:49.800 –> 01:07:51.900
Though she could punch out the window and shut,

01:07:51.980 –> 01:07:54.619
you know, whatever. But yeah, I know I always

01:07:54.619 –> 01:07:56.420
tend to notice those things because as a writer,

01:07:56.519 –> 01:07:59.000
I think of like, OK, is this foolproof when I’m

01:07:59.000 –> 01:08:00.900
doing this? What are things that people can’t

01:08:00.900 –> 01:08:04.840
nitpick? Yeah. And that. But yeah, I mean, you

01:08:04.840 –> 01:08:06.860
wouldn’t have that story. What I really liked

01:08:06.860 –> 01:08:09.920
about it. is that, I mean, this is like, keeping

01:08:09.920 –> 01:08:14.619
my 25 minute story. And it was so complex in

01:08:14.619 –> 01:08:17.119
the way that it dealt with the suspense. Cause

01:08:17.119 –> 01:08:21.840
you had the suspense of her killing her husband

01:08:21.840 –> 01:08:24.439
and will she get away with it? You had the suspense

01:08:24.439 –> 01:08:27.199
of this like killer coming to kill her. And you

01:08:27.199 –> 01:08:30.539
had the suspense of will her daughter catch her

01:08:30.539 –> 01:08:33.479
killing her husband? Or make it general. And

01:08:33.479 –> 01:08:35.880
also, are the cops going to show up and she’s

01:08:35.880 –> 01:08:37.600
got to deal with that? Exactly. I mean, when

01:08:37.600 –> 01:08:39.500
you put all that together, it’s like, you’re

01:08:39.500 –> 01:08:41.380
like, it’s coming at you from all sides. Just

01:08:41.380 –> 01:08:44.079
very, very well thought out. And the economy

01:08:44.079 –> 01:08:48.039
of storytelling is incredible. Yeah. Definitely

01:08:48.039 –> 01:08:51.579
check it out. And I do wonder, like for the writers

01:08:51.579 –> 01:08:54.460
who wrote on Tales from the Crypt, if this was

01:08:54.460 –> 01:08:56.399
like a gift, because it’s like the story, the

01:08:56.399 –> 01:08:58.539
panels are all there. You’re just adapting it,

01:08:58.560 –> 01:09:01.619
which. You know, you probably make what a kind

01:09:01.619 –> 01:09:04.060
of make it your own in some way, but now I’m

01:09:04.060 –> 01:09:07.079
really eager to read that Issue to see like how

01:09:07.079 –> 01:09:09.100
it plays. Yeah, I’ll say yeah, I’ll send you

01:09:09.100 –> 01:09:13.359
guys and stuff. It’s I’ve Got it all. Yeah Exactly,

01:09:13.439 –> 01:09:15.500
but I again going back to what Chris was saying

01:09:15.500 –> 01:09:18.220
earlier. It’s 40 years before so like nobody

01:09:18.220 –> 01:09:20.760
had really been around to still remember that

01:09:20.760 –> 01:09:22.359
and because there was such a stigma with the

01:09:22.359 –> 01:09:23.979
comics code and there was all these trials it

01:09:23.979 –> 01:09:25.619
was kind of one of these things where it got

01:09:25.619 –> 01:09:27.600
pushed down you know no one wanted to talk about

01:09:27.600 –> 01:09:29.439
it because it was one of those things back in

01:09:29.439 –> 01:09:31.710
the day and so you’ve got 40 years later. people

01:09:31.710 –> 01:09:33.590
just adapting it. And it’s like, yeah, it is

01:09:33.590 –> 01:09:35.489
like, you know, you literally have the art, you

01:09:35.489 –> 01:09:37.770
have the panels, you have the framing, you’ve

01:09:37.770 –> 01:09:39.909
got the words. So you just get the best people

01:09:39.909 –> 01:09:43.409
like, you know, Michael J. Farts, Fox, Michael

01:09:43.409 –> 01:09:52.060
J. Fox, Catherine O ‘Hara. you know, Tom Hanks,

01:09:52.619 –> 01:09:53.859
you know, all these people, and then you get

01:09:53.859 –> 01:09:55.619
the best writers. It just seemed like it was

01:09:55.619 –> 01:09:57.760
just like, it was kind of a collaboration of

01:09:57.760 –> 01:09:59.760
friends. You know, we’ve got these stories, we

01:09:59.760 –> 01:10:01.420
bought these rights. You guys want to come play

01:10:01.420 –> 01:10:03.100
with us is kind of what it feels like. Right.

01:10:03.220 –> 01:10:06.960
And like, I mean, and also like a testament to

01:10:06.960 –> 01:10:09.220
how successful it was, right? If, if you can

01:10:09.220 –> 01:10:13.319
attract that level of talent, I imagine that

01:10:13.319 –> 01:10:15.720
they didn’t get paid nearly what. they were worth,

01:10:15.739 –> 01:10:18.960
you know, to do it. So. Well, I mean, it’s also

01:10:18.960 –> 01:10:21.359
as an actor, you’re like, oh, I don’t have to

01:10:21.359 –> 01:10:23.420
spend a month and a half or three months or whatever

01:10:23.420 –> 01:10:25.600
on a film. Whereas we can knock this out in a

01:10:25.600 –> 01:10:27.500
week or I don’t know how long it took. Yeah.

01:10:27.520 –> 01:10:30.039
So it could just be like pretty. I bet you they

01:10:30.039 –> 01:10:31.899
did an episode a week or something. I mean, there’s

01:10:31.899 –> 01:10:34.840
so so many of them. How many did you say total?

01:10:35.239 –> 01:10:38.500
Like 92, 93. You know, in the way that TV shows

01:10:38.500 –> 01:10:41.939
were done back then, you know, it was like rapid

01:10:41.939 –> 01:10:43.739
fire because, you know, a lot of seasons were

01:10:43.739 –> 01:10:47.680
like. 30 something episodes long so Every Sunday

01:10:47.680 –> 01:10:50.180
I would go over and like I had this very small

01:10:50.180 –> 01:10:52.039
television And I wasn’t allowed to watch you

01:10:52.039 –> 01:10:53.880
know stuff like this so soon as my parents went

01:10:53.880 –> 01:10:56.399
to sleep I’d get my little TV get my little blanket

01:10:56.399 –> 01:10:59.560
and go hide and I’d just be like And then I wouldn’t

01:10:59.560 –> 01:11:01.199
be able to sleep for the rest of the night I

01:11:01.199 –> 01:11:03.399
just saw like two hours of people killing each

01:11:03.399 –> 01:11:07.039
other in gore I was lucky enough that my parents

01:11:07.039 –> 01:11:11.220
had HBO for at least The first couple years of

01:11:11.220 –> 01:11:13.699
this I think in like the early 90s is when we

01:11:13.699 –> 01:11:16.659
stopped having Cable, but that’s that’s where

01:11:16.659 –> 01:11:20.380
I saw it And I was telling you guys this that

01:11:20.380 –> 01:11:22.460
like years later when it came out on DVD I bought

01:11:22.460 –> 01:11:24.970
it and was going through it And I was showing

01:11:24.970 –> 01:11:27.729
Anya an episode that she really got a kick out

01:11:27.729 –> 01:11:29.729
of. And this is when I had Netflix and it was

01:11:29.729 –> 01:11:31.949
the mail and stuff. And I accidentally put my

01:11:31.949 –> 01:11:35.409
Tales from the Crypt DVD in the Netflix sleeve

01:11:35.409 –> 01:11:37.470
and sent it to them. And then I was stuck with

01:11:37.470 –> 01:11:39.010
whatever movie. And they’re like, yeah, we can’t

01:11:39.010 –> 01:11:40.689
just send that back to you because we don’t,

01:11:40.689 –> 01:11:42.029
I don’t think they had the series. I was like,

01:11:42.350 –> 01:11:46.130
God damn it. So I’m missing. One of those. eBay’s

01:11:46.130 –> 01:11:47.310
there for you. What did you get in trade? What

01:11:47.310 –> 01:11:50.350
did you get to keep? I don’t remember at the

01:11:50.350 –> 01:11:52.109
time. I think they just were like, hey, we’ll

01:11:52.109 –> 01:11:54.069
send you a bonus one this month or something,

01:11:54.109 –> 01:11:56.760
you know, just some bullshit. Bill, I do have

01:11:56.760 –> 01:11:59.220
something left over from Netflix because they

01:11:59.220 –> 01:12:02.460
switched over. Peter just has the live -action

01:12:02.460 –> 01:12:06.000
Scooby -Doo movie now. I mean, like, number two

01:12:06.000 –> 01:12:08.439
is amazing. James Gunn did that. Monsters Unleashed

01:12:08.439 –> 01:12:11.840
is an incredibly well -adapted Scooby -Doo series.

01:12:12.060 –> 01:12:14.300
Next to Tales from the Crypt, I could easily

01:12:14.300 –> 01:12:16.359
spout out about Scooby -Doo. I’m sorry, I made

01:12:16.359 –> 01:12:19.100
a joke about it. I’ve not seen the live -action

01:12:19.100 –> 01:12:22.159
Scooby -Doo. Yeah, number two is the best. Again,

01:12:22.180 –> 01:12:24.800
that’s James Gunn’s, like, big step in two from,

01:12:24.800 –> 01:12:27.020
like, you know lollipop and some of his like

01:12:27.020 –> 01:12:28.819
other stuff that he had done to where he came

01:12:28.819 –> 01:12:32.119
into the big Well, I will say I think Matthew

01:12:32.119 –> 01:12:35.359
Lillard’s shaggy, right? Like yeah, I’m a big

01:12:35.359 –> 01:12:37.899
Matthew Lillard fan and I I don’t know this week

01:12:37.899 –> 01:12:39.960
He’s talking about how people only, you know,

01:12:40.039 –> 01:12:42.020
he’s having a resurgence because of nostalgia.

01:12:42.020 –> 01:12:44.199
Nobody really likes him I’m like, no, no, no,

01:12:44.479 –> 01:12:47.479
I like you. Yeah, I you’ve been a fan. I’ve been

01:12:47.479 –> 01:12:50.159
a huge fan ever since hackers came out Yeah,

01:12:50.159 –> 01:12:55.140
13 ghosts. My goodness again sell LLC punk Yeah,

01:12:55.140 –> 01:12:58.359
yeah, scream is I guess what I initially know

01:12:58.359 –> 01:13:02.640
him from that was good, too It’s no hackers,

01:13:02.640 –> 01:13:06.800
but you know, it’s a Great. Well, we probably

01:13:06.800 –> 01:13:09.079
better leave it there. Do you guys have any great

01:13:09.079 –> 01:13:11.539
fun plans lined up for the week you to do anything

01:13:11.539 –> 01:13:14.880
cool? I do. Tomorrow is Star Wars Day, May the

01:13:14.880 –> 01:13:17.779
4th, and I’ve been invited to go out to the Grove

01:13:17.779 –> 01:13:21.039
to check out the first 25 minutes of the new

01:13:21.039 –> 01:13:25.020
Mandalorian and Grogu movie. And then there’s

01:13:25.020 –> 01:13:27.439
going to be like, I think, 25 or 30 minutes of

01:13:27.439 –> 01:13:29.960
unseen footage from the previous series they

01:13:29.960 –> 01:13:33.619
had on Disney. So, yeah, I am taking my. That

01:13:33.619 –> 01:13:35.500
brings up a good point that you’re going to that

01:13:35.500 –> 01:13:37.199
we’re going to have a little bit of a Star Wars

01:13:37.199 –> 01:13:39.260
episode next time, right? It’s true. I’m taking

01:13:39.260 –> 01:13:44.020
my my sweet Ken with me. He is very well known

01:13:44.020 –> 01:13:45.859
in the Star Wars universe and knows more about

01:13:45.859 –> 01:13:49.800
Star Wars than anybody I know and he has been

01:13:49.800 –> 01:13:52.199
talking about Darth Maul lately because that

01:13:52.199 –> 01:13:54.960
series is on and kind of giving me more insight

01:13:54.960 –> 01:13:57.000
to the actual horrors and the darkness and to

01:13:57.000 –> 01:13:59.079
a lot of the stuff that comes from Star Wars

01:13:59.079 –> 01:14:00.720
that I had never really thought about and I was

01:14:00.720 –> 01:14:02.880
like, oh, why don’t you come talk the horror

01:14:02.880 –> 01:14:05.760
in Star Wars with us right around the time of

01:14:06.189 –> 01:14:08.550
May 4th. I’m actually very excited about that,

01:14:08.590 –> 01:14:10.989
because I always, you know, back in the day,

01:14:11.069 –> 01:14:12.810
you were a Star Wars fan or you were Star Trek

01:14:12.810 –> 01:14:15.550
fan, and I like Star Trek, but I was drawn to

01:14:15.550 –> 01:14:18.529
Star Wars, I think because it felt darker. You

01:14:18.529 –> 01:14:21.850
know, he got all that. It had the action. I’m

01:14:21.850 –> 01:14:25.310
always impressed by Star Wars fanatics because.

01:14:25.840 –> 01:14:27.960
That’s like more information than I could store

01:14:27.960 –> 01:14:30.800
in my brain. Like they know the whole universe,

01:14:31.039 –> 01:14:33.439
like every series, every movie, every character.

01:14:33.579 –> 01:14:36.840
I’m just like, all right, Darth Vader is Luke’s

01:14:36.840 –> 01:14:39.760
father, right? Well, I don’t know, Peter, you

01:14:39.760 –> 01:14:41.920
have that, like just this episode, I’m like,

01:14:42.119 –> 01:14:45.520
you have that all about horror. Horror, yes.

01:14:46.600 –> 01:14:48.819
I learned so much from both of y ‘all. And punk

01:14:48.819 –> 01:14:51.300
rock and stuff. So like, you know, you do, you

01:14:51.300 –> 01:14:53.939
just, it’s like… I guess it’s… In a different

01:14:53.939 –> 01:14:55.760
direction. Or maybe it crowds out the Star Wars

01:14:55.760 –> 01:15:06.369
knowledge. Could be. Could be. For the last section

01:15:06.369 –> 01:15:08.369
of the day Peter’s gonna take us on a little

01:15:08.369 –> 01:15:10.909
bit of an audio journey with his time at the

01:15:10.909 –> 01:15:13.390
International Sci -Fi and Horror Film Festival

01:15:13.390 –> 01:15:15.369
as part of the larger Phoenix Film Festival.

01:15:15.649 –> 01:15:18.010
A couple weeks ago our short film Last Call had

01:15:18.010 –> 01:15:20.529
an opportunity to play the festival and in fact

01:15:20.529 –> 01:15:23.189
premiered there and Peter was in and out in a

01:15:23.189 –> 01:15:26.029
24 -hour whirlwind to go support the premiere.

01:15:26.689 –> 01:15:29.090
A couple days later Peter sat down to capture

01:15:29.090 –> 01:15:32.390
his experience in this audio diary somewhat from

01:15:32.390 –> 01:15:36.810
the field. Enjoy! Hey people, it’s Peter. I’m

01:15:36.810 –> 01:15:41.329
basically relaying adventures at the Phoenix

01:15:41.329 –> 01:15:44.489
Film Festival this past Saturday when I went.

01:15:44.869 –> 01:15:46.989
It’s where Christopher and I’s film Last Call

01:15:46.989 –> 01:15:51.529
premiered. Although lack of sleep, I had basically,

01:15:52.050 –> 01:15:55.050
fucking I need floss for my beta amyloid plaques

01:15:55.050 –> 01:15:56.989
that have built up in my brain, but I did get

01:15:56.989 –> 01:15:58.829
nine hours of sleep yesterday, so I’m doing a

01:15:58.829 –> 01:16:01.319
little bit better. Before getting into the fest,

01:16:01.460 –> 01:16:03.800
I want to congratulate Beyond the Streets, Roger

01:16:03.800 –> 01:16:06.819
Gasman, Joseph Patasol, Zach De La Roca, and

01:16:06.819 –> 01:16:08.760
of course, Dead City Punks on their documentary

01:16:08.760 –> 01:16:12.439
that premiered here in LA on Thursday. Also,

01:16:12.439 –> 01:16:15.840
congrats to Jeff Alulis, Colin Moore, and Mike

01:16:15.840 –> 01:16:19.100
Shane who were involved in that as well. The

01:16:19.100 –> 01:16:21.619
screening had two sold out shows. I got to go

01:16:21.619 –> 01:16:23.399
to the second screening along with Christopher,

01:16:23.899 –> 01:16:26.720
and we had a blast. If you’re not familiar with

01:16:26.720 –> 01:16:29.869
Dead City Punks, they’re a hardcore band. from

01:16:29.869 –> 01:16:32.829
LA and they’re known for illegal and crazy punk

01:16:32.829 –> 01:16:35.029
shows that sprout up basically within an hour’s

01:16:35.029 –> 01:16:37.989
notice. It’s seriously something out of fucking

01:16:37.989 –> 01:16:40.369
Escape from New York with a bunch of punk rockers

01:16:40.369 –> 01:16:43.810
and whatnot. Look it up online and you’ll see

01:16:43.810 –> 01:16:46.909
what I mean. I’ve seen them live and I would

01:16:46.909 –> 01:16:49.250
say it certainly lives up to the hype when they

01:16:49.250 –> 01:16:52.189
play. Basically the documentary shows you how

01:16:52.189 –> 01:16:54.390
it really is at their shows and it goes into

01:16:54.390 –> 01:16:57.819
their backstory. I want to thank Roger for the

01:16:57.819 –> 01:17:00.739
shout out at the premiere. I got to help out.

01:17:00.979 –> 01:17:02.380
So it was really cool to be a part of what I

01:17:02.380 –> 01:17:04.659
think will soon be a legendary punk documentary

01:17:04.659 –> 01:17:08.119
when more people see it. There’s currently an

01:17:08.119 –> 01:17:11.239
exhibit on the band at Beyond the Street’s flagship

01:17:11.239 –> 01:17:13.479
gallery. So check that out if you live in the

01:17:13.479 –> 01:17:16.020
L .A. area. So that kind of kicked off things,

01:17:16.159 –> 01:17:21.319
my lack of sleep marathon. And I guess it’s talking

01:17:21.319 –> 01:17:23.619
about the Dead City Punks documentary is sort

01:17:23.619 –> 01:17:26.949
of relevant because. Joseph and Mike were integral

01:17:26.949 –> 01:17:29.869
to Last Call getting it made and turning out

01:17:29.869 –> 01:17:32.970
as good as it did. And also Mecca who plays guitar

01:17:32.970 –> 01:17:36.630
for Dead City Punks was in Last Call, small cameo

01:17:36.630 –> 01:17:40.210
bit, but he also did some graffiti that you would

01:17:40.210 –> 01:17:42.689
see at the beginning of the film. So thank you

01:17:42.689 –> 01:17:46.090
again, Mecca. So that was Thursday, then Friday

01:17:46.090 –> 01:17:48.890
I went to work, then Saturday I had to get up

01:17:48.890 –> 01:17:52.739
ass early to fly to Phoenix. And the last time

01:17:52.739 –> 01:17:57.180
I was in Phoenix was 2023, and it was 120 degrees.

01:17:57.260 –> 01:17:59.680
I went there to see the Misfits with A .F .I.

01:17:59.699 –> 01:18:02.100
and Fear, and the show was outside, fortunately,

01:18:02.119 –> 01:18:05.600
at night. But I was melting, as was everyone

01:18:05.600 –> 01:18:08.899
there. Interesting, fun fact. I think A .F .I.

01:18:08.899 –> 01:18:10.800
is the only band who’s played with the Misfits,

01:18:10.939 –> 01:18:14.319
Sam Hain and Danzig. I could be wrong, because

01:18:14.319 –> 01:18:16.640
a couple of those are reunion tours, but I think

01:18:16.640 –> 01:18:19.439
they really are. But correct me if I am. wrong

01:18:19.439 –> 01:18:24.140
um anyway the the when i got to phoenix it was

01:18:24.140 –> 01:18:27.100
only 80 degrees which is normally hot but by

01:18:27.100 –> 01:18:30.340
phoenix standards is not too bad so it was it

01:18:30.340 –> 01:18:33.760
was bearable um i flew in at 11 30 i dropped

01:18:33.760 –> 01:18:36.579
my shit off at the hotel and i met up with zombie

01:18:36.579 –> 01:18:39.960
otherwise known as chris hernandez uh he did

01:18:39.960 –> 01:18:43.359
a bang out job As a production designer on Last

01:18:43.359 –> 01:18:46.340
Call and he’s a stand -up dude. He’s from Arizona

01:18:46.340 –> 01:18:49.319
So this was his home turf and he made the trek

01:18:49.319 –> 01:18:53.979
So we we caught a lot together Last Call got

01:18:53.979 –> 01:18:56.760
accepted into the International Horror and Sci

01:18:56.760 –> 01:18:59.460
-Fi Film Festival, which Zombie told me used

01:18:59.460 –> 01:19:02.279
to be its own thing But is now part of the greater

01:19:02.279 –> 01:19:05.180
Phoenix Film Festival. So it was all held at

01:19:05.180 –> 01:19:09.260
the Harkins Megaplex Which is like an AMC or

01:19:09.260 –> 01:19:14.029
regal based in Arizona. When we got there, I

01:19:14.029 –> 01:19:17.210
got my badge and gift bag. I scored Christopher

01:19:17.210 –> 01:19:20.109
a t -shirt since he couldn’t make the trip. The

01:19:20.109 –> 01:19:22.670
staff were all super helpful and nice. One asked

01:19:22.670 –> 01:19:25.710
me what film I had and I told her it was Last

01:19:25.710 –> 01:19:28.470
Call and she had seen it and liked it. So that

01:19:28.470 –> 01:19:32.569
was a nice way to start things off. Before I

01:19:32.569 –> 01:19:34.250
get into the films, I’ll just say that there

01:19:34.250 –> 01:19:37.220
was… I was only there for a day, so everything

01:19:37.220 –> 01:19:39.880
was a bit of a mad dash. There weren’t any parties,

01:19:40.859 –> 01:19:44.439
and I missed the seminars, basically, so I mainly

01:19:44.439 –> 01:19:47.819
just saw films. Though I did meet some really

01:19:47.819 –> 01:19:49.520
cool people that I’ll talk about towards the

01:19:49.520 –> 01:19:53.500
end of this. The first film I saw was The Treehouse.

01:19:53.579 –> 01:19:57.680
It’s a Spanish horror film directed by Luis Caldron.

01:19:57.899 –> 01:20:01.479
The log line is where this character, Alay, Boyfriend

01:20:01.479 –> 01:20:03.619
dies a violent death from falling out of a tree

01:20:03.619 –> 01:20:05.699
house, which is really like a house house in

01:20:05.699 –> 01:20:08.460
a tree She goes back a year later to confront

01:20:08.460 –> 01:20:13.239
the presence with the deemed responsible This

01:20:13.239 –> 01:20:15.800
comes out May 8th. It’s interesting. There’s

01:20:15.800 –> 01:20:18.880
some really wild shit that happens. It gets violent

01:20:18.880 –> 01:20:22.460
It does have a trope. I generally don’t like

01:20:22.460 –> 01:20:25.619
but I will say that it then they did something

01:20:25.619 –> 01:20:28.039
with that and added some Context that kind of

01:20:28.039 –> 01:20:32.300
brought me back into it The zombie and I then

01:20:32.300 –> 01:20:34.420
went and saw a documentary called unfinished

01:20:34.420 –> 01:20:38.199
work directed by Stephanie Lucas Which is about

01:20:38.199 –> 01:20:41.920
how this guy Eric Chavez and his family especially

01:20:41.920 –> 01:20:45.159
his mom are kind of haunted by a tragedy When

01:20:45.159 –> 01:20:48.539
he’s a teenager and he learns to cope by having

01:20:48.539 –> 01:20:53.659
creative output It was shot over 12 years. So

01:20:53.659 –> 01:20:56.520
he grew up during this whole documentary and

01:20:56.520 –> 01:20:59.960
it’s it’s Pretty cool. The family agreed to doing

01:20:59.960 –> 01:21:02.859
something when, you know, you’re that vulnerable.

01:21:03.439 –> 01:21:08.319
And so I enjoyed and appreciated that. The thing

01:21:08.319 –> 01:21:10.340
I was most excited about to see, and I didn’t

01:21:10.340 –> 01:21:12.500
think I was going to, and I’m probably going

01:21:12.500 –> 01:21:16.220
to screw up the name, but it was Carolina Caroline,

01:21:16.500 –> 01:21:20.880
which is directed by Adam Carter -Raymire. He’s

01:21:20.880 –> 01:21:23.600
basically probably my favorite director the last

01:21:23.600 –> 01:21:28.960
few years. I love Dinner in America and Snack

01:21:28.960 –> 01:21:32.460
Shack. I thought that was brilliant. And this

01:21:32.460 –> 01:21:36.340
is another feather in his cap. Carolina, Caroline

01:21:36.340 –> 01:21:40.119
is a crime road trip with a great entry point

01:21:40.119 –> 01:21:43.619
where Samara Weaving’s character takes a shine

01:21:43.619 –> 01:21:46.239
to Kyle Goelner, his character. He’s this charming

01:21:46.239 –> 01:21:49.180
conman. There’s chemistry and a budding romance

01:21:49.180 –> 01:21:51.899
that emerges as they drive across the South while

01:21:51.899 –> 01:21:56.130
he teaches. hurt his ways and these petty crimes

01:21:56.130 –> 01:21:59.529
amount to, you know, things that are a bit more

01:21:59.529 –> 01:22:03.569
serious. Ray Meier’s movies are entertaining

01:22:03.569 –> 01:22:06.789
and they have so much heart and really emotional

01:22:06.789 –> 01:22:11.130
impact. And that was all on display here. I just

01:22:11.130 –> 01:22:14.149
love how he taps into humanity in all of his

01:22:14.149 –> 01:22:16.470
characters, even though his movies are vastly

01:22:16.470 –> 01:22:20.109
different. So yeah, I was stoked to see that.

01:22:20.350 –> 01:22:23.010
And it surpassed my expectations. So keep an

01:22:23.010 –> 01:22:26.270
eye out for it. It comes out June 5th. I was

01:22:26.270 –> 01:22:27.609
hoping he was there because I’d love to meet

01:22:27.609 –> 01:22:32.210
him. But sadly, he was not present. So towards

01:22:32.210 –> 01:22:35.189
the end of the night is when The Last Call premiered.

01:22:35.210 –> 01:22:37.590
It played the festival two other days that I

01:22:37.590 –> 01:22:39.569
didn’t miss. So this was like the third final

01:22:39.569 –> 01:22:42.130
showing of it. But it was part of the horror

01:22:42.130 –> 01:22:46.310
block A that went on at 10 10 p .m. And it was

01:22:46.310 –> 01:22:48.609
sold out, which was which was really cool because.

01:22:48.920 –> 01:22:53.119
not everything sold out, and this did. So that

01:22:53.119 –> 01:22:59.619
was pretty exciting to see. And yeah, so we watched,

01:22:59.659 –> 01:23:01.619
I’ll get into the shorts, I guess, the other

01:23:01.619 –> 01:23:04.340
ones, just so people can keep an eye out for

01:23:04.340 –> 01:23:10.199
these. The first one was Scissor Sleepover by

01:23:10.199 –> 01:23:14.420
Nii Kershman. It’s very vibrantly pink, and it’s

01:23:14.420 –> 01:23:18.520
like this campy sleepover with these ladies.

01:23:18.880 –> 01:23:23.939
goes horribly wrong. Amazing color and production

01:23:23.939 –> 01:23:27.479
design on that one. Then there was Around the

01:23:27.479 –> 01:23:30.180
Corner by Russ Emanuel, who he was present and

01:23:30.180 –> 01:23:34.159
I got to talk to him after. Hi, Russ. That featured

01:23:34.159 –> 01:23:37.399
Kelly Maroney, you might know from Fast Times

01:23:37.399 –> 01:23:40.239
or Ridgemount High or Night of the Comet. And

01:23:40.239 –> 01:23:43.439
that’s kind of this quirky bit that focuses on

01:23:43.439 –> 01:23:48.600
a suburban COVID zombie homeowner tiff. situation,

01:23:48.680 –> 01:23:53.060
I guess you’d put it. There was also The Companions,

01:23:53.239 –> 01:23:56.779
which was a Spanish film by Jose Maria Flores.

01:23:57.920 –> 01:23:59.439
Treehouse was also Spanish, I forgot to mention

01:23:59.439 –> 01:24:03.520
that. And I think there was a wreath at the beginning.

01:24:04.680 –> 01:24:08.699
This got an Oscar nod. I don’t want to say too

01:24:08.699 –> 01:24:11.020
much about this, but it was really impressive.

01:24:11.239 –> 01:24:13.659
I feel like it was one take. I kind of noticed

01:24:13.659 –> 01:24:16.739
that halfway through. And there’s a musical component.

01:24:17.130 –> 01:24:20.189
The way that it was blocked and folding was pretty

01:24:20.189 –> 01:24:26.010
compelling. Next was Penelope by actress Fiona

01:24:26.010 –> 01:24:28.850
Ray, where we follow this undead girl who has

01:24:28.850 –> 01:24:32.529
to build her army of undead to make her dad happy.

01:24:33.069 –> 01:24:35.729
It’s playful and charming, made me laugh a couple

01:24:35.729 –> 01:24:39.560
times. I like the production design on this as

01:24:39.560 –> 01:24:42.039
well, and I could be wrong, but I think it was

01:24:42.039 –> 01:24:44.260
the opening shot of the house was from the house

01:24:44.260 –> 01:24:46.180
from People on the Stairs, though in LA there’s

01:24:46.180 –> 01:24:49.439
a lot of houses that look like that. Next up,

01:24:49.739 –> 01:24:52.659
there was Praying Mantis, which is this wild,

01:24:52.659 –> 01:24:58.039
wild animation film directed by Joe Haseya. I’m

01:24:58.039 –> 01:25:00.100
probably butchering his last name, I apologize.

01:25:01.239 –> 01:25:04.050
And it’s where we got to… praying mantis mutant

01:25:04.050 –> 01:25:07.170
who seduces men to help save her child. It’s

01:25:07.170 –> 01:25:10.670
really bonkers and kind of a liquid television

01:25:10.670 –> 01:25:14.909
way in the 90s on MTV viewers saw that, but this

01:25:14.909 –> 01:25:19.970
was a bit like a hard R I would say. And then

01:25:19.970 –> 01:25:21.970
last there was these colors don’t run, which

01:25:21.970 –> 01:25:24.630
was directed by Chris. Esridge, it’s kind of

01:25:24.630 –> 01:25:27.569
got a Friday the 13th thing going on a mass killer

01:25:27.569 –> 01:25:31.510
is stalking a camper and The killers emotion

01:25:31.510 –> 01:25:34.550
are on display So those were the other shorts

01:25:34.550 –> 01:25:40.350
last call actually played second And I got to

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participate in a Q &A I unfortunately was like

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seated towards the front of the theater so I

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couldn’t really watch the the audience’s reactions,

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but we did get a couple laughs and responses

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here and there. So that was that was a school.

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The Q &A was was fun. I have not done one, I

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don’t think. So that was a little new to me.

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Then afterwards, we hung out in the lobby and

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some people came up and talked to me about the

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film. They said some kind things, which was great.

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So I want to shout out. Jeremy Bridges, he’s

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an Arizona filmmaker I met. Yong Tan, he’s a

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composer. Russell Manuel, who I mentioned, who

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directed Around the Corner. And Leela from Wildscar

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Entertainment. I’ll butcher her last name, so

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I’m not even gonna attempt that one. And I also

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spent a lot of the time talking to Jason and

01:26:38.189 –> 01:26:41.229
Kylie from Sinister Cinema Reviews. I met them

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during Carolina Caroline, and they were awesome.

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really glad I connected with them. But I had

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to cut it short because by this point it was

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like 1 a .m. or going on one and I had to be

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up at 430. So overall it was fun, it was short,

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but that is my update from the Phoenix Film Festival.

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All right. Well, tune in next week for our conversation

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with taffetus Ken. Ken Knapsack of the Force

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Center podcast. It’s going to be a real fun episode.

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So yeah, bring it on. Awesome. Bye, y ‘all. Bye.

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Bye. And that’s going to bring us to the end

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of today’s episode of Nightmare Logic. Thanks

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for sticking around. I hope you enjoyed our conversation

01:27:33.560 –> 01:27:35.880
about Tales from the Crypt, as well as Peter’s

01:27:35.880 –> 01:27:38.659
Dispatch from the International Sci -Fi and Horror

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Film Festival in Phoenix. And for today’s show

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notes, you can go to our website at nightmarelogic

01:27:43.800 –> 01:27:47.380
.net and follow us on Instagram at nightmarelogicpod.

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We’d like to give a big shout out to our composer

01:27:49.689 –> 01:27:52.289
Lars Lang -Petersen for our awesome score, and

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join us next week as we talk to Star Wars expert

01:27:54.689 –> 01:27:57.750
Ken Napzok about all of the ways in which horror

01:27:57.750 –> 01:27:59.949
and darkness permeate the heart of Star Wars.

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Until then, take care.