The World of Creepy Comics With Taffeta Darling

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Welcome back to nightmare logic where we dissect

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your fears and find out what makes them tick

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we’re your hosts Christopher Smith and Peter

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Sawyer And we’re here today with a special guest

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our friend Taffeta Darling who will educate us

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about the grim and nerdy world of horror comic

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books All right, okay All right guys welcome

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welcome. We’re back another week Beware the Ides

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of March, right? Is it? I don’t know what day

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that is. Ides of March is the middle of March.

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God damn it. All right. I thought it was just

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like… Well, by the time you’re hearing this,

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it is the Ides of March, so beware of the Ides

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of March. Does anyone know what that means? Yeah,

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it was Julius Caesar. I think it was in Shakespeare,

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actually. Beware of the Ides of March, because

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Julius Caesar was executed on the 15th. Damn,

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look at you. Historian. Yeah, I took Latin for

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three years. Ah Yeah, so anyone do anything fun

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see anything cool or read anything interesting

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this week Yeah, I saw something pretty unique

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I am on letterbox a lot and I follow Charles

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Piper shout out to Charles He was a writer on

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destroy all neighbors. Anyway, he Had some, he

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reviewed something called Hangman from 1964 and

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the art on it really grabbed my attention. It

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looked like the Grim Reaper, but it’s just very

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stylized. And so I was like, I gotta watch this.

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So I went on YouTube and it’s like a 12 minute

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short film from 1964 that’s like a animation.

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It’s like lightly animated. It’s kind of moving

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storyboard type stuff. But it was directed by

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Les Goldman and Paul Julian and written by Maurice

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of Jen. And it’s it’s relevant to today. So it’s

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kind of political. You watch it and you’re like,

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oh, this is a hangman comes to town and right.

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It gets dark. But it’s it’s cool to see something.

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And the voice, the narrator’s voice sounds very

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familiar to me. I’m sure he did a bunch of like

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stuff in the 70s and probably early 80s, too.

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Cool. I can check that out. Yeah, I have a couple

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of things I want to mention here. I saw, I’m

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doing judging for the news and documentary at

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Emmys at the moment for nominations. And one

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of the things I was requested to judge was Breakdown

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1975, which is a Netflix documentary, which normally

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I wouldn’t mention on here, except that it’s

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about all of the films that came out in that

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period in TV shows and kind of like why and the

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reaction to the current. climate. And there’s

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a lot of echoes about like, you know, today and

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they talk about a lot of things like Carrie and,

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you know, some horror adjacent things. And anyways,

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it was just really interesting. And, you know,

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I actually kind of wasn’t intentionally going

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to watch it. I’d seen it, but I was like, I don’t

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know if I’m that interested, but because I needed

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to watch it. And then they did. I realized that

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I kind of got a lot out of it. And it’s probably

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worth checking out for you film nerds out there.

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And it’s really resonant today because it really

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makes the case for us being in a similar political

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environment to, you know, 1975 with the Vietnam

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War and the Ford presidency and pardoning Richard

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Nixon and all of that. And sort of the what that

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did to popular culture and, you know, suggests

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that who knows, maybe art and film are answered

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to that. So it’s pretty cool. And the last thing

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I want to mention is, you know, I’m ashamed to

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admit that I’d never seen Black Phone until this

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week. But it keeps coming up so I thought it

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was a good time and you know part of the reason

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I didn’t watch it is I always thought the the

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mask Just looked kind of corny. So I was like

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worried. It was gonna be kind of a corny film

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But actually I ended up really liking it. So

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Yeah, I don’t know Yeah, I I really appreciated

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the how mean -spirited it was Because it did

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not feel like a typical Blumhouse movie to me.

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Mm -hmm And it’s it’s a period piece, right?

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It’s like the 70s. It’s been a minute since I’ve

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seen it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It might be 70s

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or 80s. I think maybe it’s early 80s. Yeah. But

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it’s 80s. It’s 80s. It’s based on the Joe Hill

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book that I have not read, but I did read one

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of his books. I think it’s called. something

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hard God damn it, but it’s worth checking out

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for sure for those Few people out there who probably

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haven’t already seen it you and McGregor did

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a great job. I think as the bad guy I don’t think

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he was like the scariest bad guy in the world,

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but also You know sometimes evils pretty banal

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so that kind of worked for me Okay, I got it.

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It’s the heart -shaped box heart -shaped by by

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Joe Hill Which is a great book and Joe Hill is

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Stephen King’s son for those not in the know.

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I did not know that a funny thing about The the

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black phone people were commenting I mean, this

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is topical they’re like the mask looks like Jeffrey

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Epstein’s face I could see that I just I think

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there’s this weird thing and a lot of like horror

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that’s directed at more like a teen audience

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where they kind of put in these It’s like they’re

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serious, but then they put in these like slightly

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goofy elements And that always kind of takes

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me out of a little bit like like screams a good

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example about it Which we’ll talk about in a

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little bit, but the scream mask it’s like I mean

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I get why they did it because it’s like Halloween

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or like you know it’s supposed to be like a Halloween

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mask, but but I kind of worked there, but I just

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kind of feel like it there are lots of films

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I do stuff like that where it’s like oh you You

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could have reeled it back a little bit. You know

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like why did you even have a mask? I wasn’t really

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like central to the story at all for Halloween

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Merchandising? I don’t know. Well, I guess it’s

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probably actually the right answer. Except maybe,

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I don’t know if it’s mentioned in the book. I’m

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sure it would be. Yeah. Right? Yeah. I mean,

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I think the one thing that did work with the

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mask is maybe it made him a little bit more scared

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because you’re not aware of, like, what he really

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looked like under there. And since he’s such

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a central character, you know, a lot of times

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with horror you want to hold back with the bad

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guy or bad creature or whatever it is and, you

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know, be sparing with that reveal, but You know,

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so maybe that was part of it is like you didn’t

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want to like really see his identity But I don’t

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know. I don’t know and then the weird clown thing

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with the balloons never explained You know, like

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like why is he kidnapping people with black balloons?

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Who knows? It’s creepy. I guess Anyways, uh taffano,

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do you did you see anything or anything this

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week or we’ll just kind of piggyback on um The

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black phone like I guess with the mask it had

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very like I kind of reminded me of like the old

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-school like Universal Monster stuff It was very

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kind of like Phantom of the Opera in its own

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sense to where he’s just kind of like this Weird

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guy living in this house and being creepy and

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he just hid behind the mask which adds to that

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element of like what is going on here, right?

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So I did like that aspect about the movie. Yeah

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the only thing I’ve really been kind of keeping

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up with is the Cartoon Network show primal Like

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it’s essentially like a caveman kind of going

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through time, but since it’s a caveman there’s

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like no actual vocalization of like conversation

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It’s more like a lot of grunts and a lot of growls,

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but it’s told through like dramatic like music

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and like expressions But then in this season

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a little bit of a spoiler, but not really you

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have The main character is like, you know, Spear.

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And he’s a caveman. He’s going through his whole

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life. But something happens to him to where,

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like, he winds up getting essentially put back

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together like kind of a Frankenstein monster.

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So, like, his brain is everywhere. So he’s essentially

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kind of like this monster zombie that’s now a

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caveman, like, figuring it out and everything.

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Um, and that’s kind of what I’ve been watching.

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That’s the one thing I’m keeping up to date on

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is that. But I do like the aspect that they’ve

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added a little bit more horror because they’ve

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added more, like, beasts and stuff, like these

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giant, like, warthogs that are, like, you know…

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prehistoric size so they’re all like gruesome

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and it’s gory and there’s like this one scene

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where they’re all like suckling on this like

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pig and the way they do it it’s all like very

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like uh liquid television back in the day you

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know from MTV to where it was just like very

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disturbing and stumpy I used to watch that all

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the time yeah like and so Flux was my jam. Yeah.

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Yeah, exactly. So it’s kind of like that animation

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style It’s the same guy who did Samurai Jack

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and the attack of the clones. It’s like all his

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production but there’s a lot more horror aspects

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on that that I’m appreciating because like you’ve

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got these beasts now that are just Challenges

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for like the the main dinosaur character. You

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know, that’s one thing that’s really great I

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think about animation is that and particularly

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recently I think animations gotten so surreal

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and they really, you know, can touch on like

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really interesting visualizations and stuff because

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at the end of the day, animation is expensive,

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but it doesn’t make it any more expensive to

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do something weird and crazy. Whereas like in

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live action, it’s like that adds to the budget.

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You know, so they I feel like there’s a lot more

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experimentation and and creative ideas around

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like story and happening in animation, you know,

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which is why it’s great to have you because I

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mean, we’re going to be focused a little more

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on comic books, but, you know, it’s kind of in

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that same. Same spirit. Anything else you want

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to mention? I mean, yeah, it’s usually that like

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my my comfort shows that I watch usually are

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horror stuff. Like one of my favorite ones is

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like Event Horizon. That’s like my comfort one.

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And I’m sure most people have seen that. I watched

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that in Colombo. I love Colombo too. Colombo

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is like one of my favorite shows. Did you post

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something about Colombo like recently? Probably.

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I think I saw a screenshot of Colombo. Yeah,

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yeah. Peter Colombo. I don’t think I’ve ever

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actually watched it. So maybe I’m missing out.

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It wasn’t really available until the streaming

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days, and I stumbled on it on Netflix. I think

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they used to have all the seasons or something,

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but I don’t think they do anymore. It’s old,

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right? Yeah, yeah, they’ve got it on Tubi for

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free. They’ve got it on Amazon Prime for free,

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if you have that, you know. But it’s a little

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bit of a horse. It’s a detective show, but I

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mean, people die and they’re killed in like brutal

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ways. And just the aspect of it being like from

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a different way to where it’s like 70s, right?

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Yeah, yeah. Well, like. uh early 70s on until

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like at least like the 90s i think is because

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they it stopped for a while then they like brought

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it back when peter falk was a bit older than

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90s and it’s weird because like i’ve watched

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everything from the beginning and then you hit

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the 90s and it’s like wait a minute this is more

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modern and it’s still colombo as a 70s gritty

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detective you know like in the 90s like at the

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playboy mansion and like all the styles like

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so bright and poppy in the big hair. And he’s

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still like his old self. I’ve never seen any

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of those. Yeah, it’s cool because he’s kind of

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the like, honestly, I think the precursor to

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a lot of that stuff like Murder, She Wrote and

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it’s like in that vein where, you know, like,

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oh, like Scooby Doo even really, you know, around

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the same time. Yeah, especially that Don Knotts

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with Scooby Doo. Yeah, that’s you know, I know

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it’s not like straight horror, but like, I mean.

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There’s a lot of people. I mean, everybody dies.

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That’s how every episode starts with like someone

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getting like brutally killed, you know, and you

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know what happens. But then the joy of it is

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trying to figure out with Colombo, how is he

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going to figure out who did it? Because we know

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who did it. So how is he going to trap them?

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And he’s a great character. They really did a

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good job making him affable yet smart, but also

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like, you know, just fun to watch, basically.

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So that’s pretty much it. It’s usually a bunch

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of old stuff. There’s a show that I’ve I’ve never

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seen From I think that time frame maybe earlier

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in the 70s cold check you guys familiar with

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that That is like a horror series with a I think

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detective yeah in Vegas if I’m not mistaken based

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off a series of books Yeah, but I have not I’ve

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not seen it. I’ve only heard good things I don’t

00:11:38.899 –> 00:11:41.080
think it’s streaming anywhere, or I just never

00:11:41.080 –> 00:11:44.899
think to look Cool, I checked that out too. There’s

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so many good suggestions here. Moving forward

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into some news, breaking news. This is obviously

00:11:51.259 –> 00:11:53.299
going to be, we’re not going to post this for

00:11:53.299 –> 00:11:54.940
a couple of weeks. So this will be old news by

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the time you all hear it. But Paramount is officially

00:12:00.559 –> 00:12:02.899
buying Warner Brothers Discovery after Netflix

00:12:02.899 –> 00:12:06.399
backed out for $31 a share in a deal worth $110

00:12:06.399 –> 00:12:11.299
billion. And they will pay Netflix the $2 .8,

00:12:11.440 –> 00:12:13.379
I think, billion dollar pullout fee on behalf

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of Warner Brothers. Um, and a lot of people are

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not happy with this. You know, we, we have the

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movie theater groups, cinema, United, WGA and

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other unions opposed to it. Staff inside CNN

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have expressed discomfort with the purchase along

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with other Warner Brothers properties. Um, the,

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the attorney general of California and many other

00:12:36.049 –> 00:12:38.730
quote unquote blue states are against it. Uh,

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mostly for the consolidation of the media aspect.

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So, um, Yeah, and you know, there’s some truth

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behind that, as we’ve already seen the sort of

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pressure for CBS to be a little more right leaning

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in their bias. And there’s also been some the

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Paramount’s blacklisted some Hollywood directors

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who don’t align with their values around Palestinian

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rights. And so I guess I got a couple of questions

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for you guys about this. How big of a deal do

00:13:09.039 –> 00:13:13.120
you think it is? And as it relates to us as filmmakers

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in the film industry and other media entertainment

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properties. Well, real quick, I didn’t want to

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interrupt, but I heard someone’s there’s pushback

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for this. Like someone’s challenging it. Yeah,

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the California attorney general I just I mentioned.

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I mean, because my understanding with mergers

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is that, you know, the states actually regulate

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business licenses and things like that. And,

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you know, the the FCC. deals with all of the

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like bandwidth when it comes to TV and network

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television, but when it comes to things like

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cable and streaming, that’s a little bit more,

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you know, business question. So anyways, there’s

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multiple layers that they have to get approval

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through to do a merger of the size, including

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through the states. So there is a chance this

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might not happen then. Yeah, that’s what the

00:14:01.210 –> 00:14:02.909
attorney general of California said, that he’s

00:14:02.909 –> 00:14:05.210
like, it’s not a done deal yet. But, you know,

00:14:05.210 –> 00:14:07.649
with the way the government is, it’s going to

00:14:07.649 –> 00:14:09.639
set up a big battle, I think, between the attorney

00:14:09.639 –> 00:14:12.440
generals and the White House, because for those

00:14:12.440 –> 00:14:15.500
who don’t know, the current owner of Paramount

00:14:15.500 –> 00:14:19.600
is David Ellison, the son of Larry Ellison, multi

00:14:19.600 –> 00:14:22.840
-billionaire backer of Donald Trump. So, you

00:14:22.840 –> 00:14:25.980
know, essentially Donald Trump and his administration

00:14:25.980 –> 00:14:29.559
put their hand on the scale to kind of like suggest

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to Netflix data, have a hard time passing regulatory

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approval and basically saying it’d be a done

00:14:34.960 –> 00:14:37.000
deal with Paramount. Which is part of the reason

00:14:37.000 –> 00:14:39.340
I think Netflix opted not to counter is that

00:14:39.340 –> 00:14:42.580
they the writing was on the wall in terms of

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it being like a difficult battle and you know,

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much more expensive than they were wanted to

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actually pay. So I think that’s why they backed

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out. A lot of people suggest that was actually

00:14:50.620 –> 00:14:52.059
a good call on their part in their stock has

00:14:52.059 –> 00:14:54.419
since gone up quite a bit where it went down

00:14:54.419 –> 00:14:58.639
after they announced merger. So so anyways, yeah.

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Back to the impact on our industries. What do

00:15:02.940 –> 00:15:04.879
you guys think? Do you think it’s a big deal?

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Oh, of course. Yeah, it’s it’s a huge deal. I

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don’t like monopolies, especially like as we

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keep drifting into dystopia. I mean, the interesting

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thing about anything like that is I feel like

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there’s always some kind of creative response.

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I don’t know if all of a sudden, you know, you

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get some ethical billionaire being like, dude,

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I’m not on board with this. I’ll start some indie

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studio or, you know, some kind of… something

00:15:33.850 –> 00:15:37.289
they can compete with us. Mm hmm. Yeah, that’s

00:15:37.289 –> 00:15:40.370
the silver lining hope, isn’t it? That, you know,

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there’s a reality like once you start losing

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and this is the big problem as I see it and you’re

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touching on it, which is that the distribution

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options for indie films and also for funding

00:15:50.870 –> 00:15:54.429
films are the more consolidation, the harder

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that is because you used to have like. 15, 20

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places you could pitch projects to. But if they’re

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all owned by the same company, what ends up happening

00:16:01.620 –> 00:16:03.779
is you, you know, go to those verticals, but

00:16:03.779 –> 00:16:05.340
they’re like, oh, this is really appropriate

00:16:05.340 –> 00:16:08.179
for this one particular brand in our portfolio.

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So they send you there. And so you really get

00:16:10.120 –> 00:16:12.440
like two or three bites at the Apple now when

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you used to have a dozen. And what you’re saying

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is that as a reaction to that, we’re potentially

00:16:19.059 –> 00:16:22.659
going to see more indie forms of distribution,

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creative. options for self -distribution, but

00:16:26.529 –> 00:16:30.129
also potentially alternative platforms and and

00:16:30.129 –> 00:16:33.389
New companies, but the the concern with that

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is like if there’s the money’s not there This

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stuff starts becoming more and more like a race

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to the bottom. You know what I mean? Well before

00:16:40.789 –> 00:16:43.970
we start recording you mentioned Screamify. Yeah,

00:16:43.970 –> 00:16:49.809
yeah sure so I discovered there is a indie streaming

00:16:49.809 –> 00:16:53.090
platform called Screamify. I think they started

00:16:53.240 –> 00:16:56.059
last year, but I just discovered them recently.

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They put out or they in their library, it’s like

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indie horror and shorts as well as music videos.

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And this is going to sound like an ad because

00:17:05.519 –> 00:17:07.259
it’s like, yeah, two ninety nine a month. But

00:17:07.259 –> 00:17:10.059
that’s what they’re charging. And you can sign

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up for a free month trial. So I’m curious about

00:17:13.700 –> 00:17:16.519
it. It doesn’t really show you what’s in their

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library. So I feel like you might be rolling

00:17:18.640 –> 00:17:21.779
the dice, but that could be a good thing. Yeah.

00:17:22.000 –> 00:17:24.160
And that could be kind of some of that reaction

00:17:24.160 –> 00:17:26.220
we’re we’re seeing already from the consolidation,

00:17:26.400 –> 00:17:29.619
because this consolidation has been going on

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for like, I mean, for for the last 20 years,

00:17:31.700 –> 00:17:34.359
but really accelerated since the pandemic. You

00:17:34.359 –> 00:17:36.200
know, there’s been I mean, Warner Brothers has

00:17:36.200 –> 00:17:37.940
been bought and sold like three or four times

00:17:37.940 –> 00:17:39.960
in the last five years or something. It’s like

00:17:39.960 –> 00:17:43.140
pretty crazy. But with Screamify, what I want

00:17:43.140 –> 00:17:46.240
to think I really liked about it was they say

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in their mission statement or whatever that.

00:17:49.869 –> 00:17:52.190
part of this the money that they get from it

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is to fund indie films and Supposedly they’re

00:17:55.269 –> 00:17:57.289
gonna have grants and things that I think that

00:17:57.289 –> 00:18:01.109
you can apply for To fund your film. So if that

00:18:01.109 –> 00:18:02.670
comes to fruition, I think that’s actually a

00:18:02.670 –> 00:18:08.549
really exciting Model I guess for for funding

00:18:08.549 –> 00:18:11.210
horror films in the future, right? No, yeah,

00:18:11.230 –> 00:18:15.599
I agree. Yeah What about you Taffy have any thoughts

00:18:15.599 –> 00:18:17.920
about this? I do because like I know it’s a big

00:18:17.920 –> 00:18:20.000
thing for like all the the movies and the TV

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shows but like I also think it’s gonna be curious

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for everyone who works in the comic book industry

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as well or just like the literature industry

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and all the publishing industry because those

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are still owned by other people and anyone who

00:18:30.200 –> 00:18:32.220
winds up getting you know Warner Brothers is

00:18:32.220 –> 00:18:34.859
gonna also you know absorb DC, which is like,

00:18:34.900 –> 00:18:37.720
you know, one of them the Biggest, you know comic

00:18:37.720 –> 00:18:39.359
publishers that are out here. So I’m curious

00:18:39.359 –> 00:18:41.180
to see how that’s gonna affect the writers DC

00:18:41.180 –> 00:18:45.440
the entire Company owned by Warner Brothers like

00:18:45.440 –> 00:18:47.799
even the comic book. Yeah. Yeah, it’s all yeah,

00:18:47.880 –> 00:18:49.500
like it trickles down I didn’t realize that that

00:18:49.500 –> 00:18:51.220
maybe they just licensed the film rights or whatever.

00:18:51.259 –> 00:18:53.480
No No, it’s all like one so I mean like they

00:18:53.480 –> 00:18:55.359
could easily have their say on like which titles

00:18:55.359 –> 00:18:57.119
stay which titles go a lot of people don’t like

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the Superman titles and how it’s changed because

00:18:59.160 –> 00:19:01.359
now it’s like You know no longer the American

00:19:01.359 –> 00:19:03.440
way, you know, like right they’ve politically

00:19:03.440 –> 00:19:05.559
Yeah, they’ve changed that and there was a lot

00:19:05.559 –> 00:19:07.920
of pushback on that. So it’d be interesting cuz

00:19:07.920 –> 00:19:11.200
I I’m curious to see how it’s going to affect

00:19:11.200 –> 00:19:12.980
some of these publishing. I mean, they could

00:19:12.980 –> 00:19:15.619
even just decide that the bottom line doesn’t

00:19:15.619 –> 00:19:17.799
make sense and close it down. Absolutely. You

00:19:17.799 –> 00:19:19.240
know, they could do essentially whatever they

00:19:19.240 –> 00:19:20.819
wanted if they own it. And I have a lot of friends

00:19:20.819 –> 00:19:22.599
who are creators that are kind of like concerned

00:19:22.599 –> 00:19:23.759
because they’re like, oh, crap, what’s going

00:19:23.759 –> 00:19:25.480
to happen with my job as far as like, you know,

00:19:26.259 –> 00:19:28.039
doing anywhere from the marketing to the actual

00:19:28.039 –> 00:19:31.279
writing and the distribution and stuff. So, you

00:19:31.279 –> 00:19:32.519
know, I just moved out here. So I’m just kind

00:19:32.519 –> 00:19:34.259
of learning everything, how it all goes or whatever

00:19:34.259 –> 00:19:36.579
else. But the one thing I do know is that like,

00:19:36.700 –> 00:19:38.359
it’s not just going to impact like just the.

00:19:38.789 –> 00:19:40.589
the films, it’s going to be felt like everywhere

00:19:40.589 –> 00:19:42.609
that’s creative, unfortunately, if this does

00:19:42.609 –> 00:19:45.849
happen. Yeah. And do they own more than just

00:19:45.849 –> 00:19:49.589
DC or are there other properties? I know that

00:19:49.589 –> 00:19:51.369
Marvel’s owned by Disney, obviously, which is

00:19:51.369 –> 00:19:54.849
not a player in this, but do they own like, say,

00:19:55.009 –> 00:19:57.890
Dark Horse or any other of those brands? Vertigo.

00:19:58.049 –> 00:19:59.569
They just bought back, you know, DC Vertigo and

00:19:59.569 –> 00:20:01.910
they just launched a lot of times a lot of new

00:20:01.910 –> 00:20:04.049
titles for that. But no, the independents are

00:20:04.049 –> 00:20:06.930
still, you know, the independent as much as they

00:20:06.930 –> 00:20:09.319
can be. Yeah. Yeah, it’s crazy. I mean if you

00:20:09.319 –> 00:20:12.920
look at I came across a graphic that showed all

00:20:12.920 –> 00:20:14.220
the different properties now that are going to

00:20:14.220 –> 00:20:16.559
be owned by David Ellison and the Ellison family

00:20:16.559 –> 00:20:20.079
and it’s I Mean dozens of household names that

00:20:20.079 –> 00:20:21.380
you know, a lot of people don’t even realize

00:20:21.380 –> 00:20:23.900
they’re part of the same company. It’s crazy

00:20:23.900 –> 00:20:27.599
Well, you know, there is this rumor about their

00:20:27.599 –> 00:20:30.480
that they have a blacklist for people who are

00:20:30.480 –> 00:20:33.539
pro -palestinian That’s that’s also kind of crazy

00:20:33.539 –> 00:20:36.259
to me is that we have to play political games

00:20:36.509 –> 00:20:40.450
to cover our ass in public. Yeah, it’s a tough

00:20:40.450 –> 00:20:43.410
one. I mean, particularly on this issue is the

00:20:43.410 –> 00:20:45.869
most divisive probably, particularly in Hollywood.

00:20:46.349 –> 00:20:49.029
You’re touching on an issue that’s so the stakes

00:20:49.029 –> 00:20:52.670
are so high for people and there’s just not it.

00:20:52.670 –> 00:20:54.930
There’s no agreement even along political lines.

00:20:55.109 –> 00:20:59.089
Well, I will say it goes both ways. I mean, Gina

00:20:59.089 –> 00:21:01.869
Carano, how do you say her name? The MMA fighter

00:21:01.869 –> 00:21:05.710
who said something she was on. Was it the Mandalorian?

00:21:05.980 –> 00:21:09.559
And she, you know, right wing. And then she was

00:21:09.559 –> 00:21:15.160
booted off. So it’s whoever’s in charge. Can

00:21:15.160 –> 00:21:17.960
you sway things? That’s the thing. It’s like

00:21:17.960 –> 00:21:19.960
when you amass all this power through consolidation,

00:21:19.960 –> 00:21:23.539
you know, I’m not that spyglass. I’m not familiar

00:21:23.539 –> 00:21:26.960
if I assume they’re not owned by, you know, impacted

00:21:26.960 –> 00:21:29.359
by this merger in any way. But, you know, imagine

00:21:29.359 –> 00:21:31.759
that times 10, you know, if you piss off one

00:21:31.759 –> 00:21:36.200
of the Ellison’s like, you know. you that limits

00:21:36.200 –> 00:21:39.799
where you can go to like Netflix, you know, maybe

00:21:39.799 –> 00:21:41.680
National Geographic. I think they’re currently

00:21:41.680 –> 00:21:44.559
owned by somebody different. But, you know, like,

00:21:44.640 –> 00:21:47.319
I mean, there’s just really not a lot of opportunity

00:21:47.319 –> 00:21:51.380
anymore to, you know, it’s bad for everybody,

00:21:51.500 –> 00:21:53.519
frankly. So moving on to the next little news

00:21:53.519 –> 00:21:56.880
topic is we got an X -Files reboot, which I’m

00:21:56.880 –> 00:21:59.619
stoked for. Did you watch the X -Files? Oh, absolutely.

00:21:59.720 –> 00:22:02.500
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was my jam. That was that

00:22:02.500 –> 00:22:05.259
was late night jams for for baby Tash. Yeah,

00:22:05.380 –> 00:22:07.380
I’m uh still is you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:07.400 –> 00:22:10.940
I never got an x -files I I discovered punk rock

00:22:10.940 –> 00:22:14.440
and girls around the age of that came about Well,

00:22:14.480 –> 00:22:17.390
you don’t have time for Girls and X -Files. I

00:22:17.390 –> 00:22:19.750
mean, it was Friday nights, right? Like it was

00:22:19.750 –> 00:22:22.349
it was bad timing. Right. Right. It was linear

00:22:22.349 –> 00:22:26.609
back then. We would videotape my dad and stepmama

00:22:26.609 –> 00:22:28.150
really into it. So they would videotape it for

00:22:28.150 –> 00:22:29.589
us and we’d watch them later, I think. Yeah.

00:22:29.589 –> 00:22:31.910
X -Files and chill. Like I would go to guys houses

00:22:31.910 –> 00:22:34.730
and have like pizza and popcorn and have X -Files

00:22:34.730 –> 00:22:36.569
in the background. Where were you in high school?

00:22:37.049 –> 00:22:39.150
Just making out with people while we’re watching

00:22:39.150 –> 00:22:42.430
X -Files. My little horny teenage dreams right

00:22:42.430 –> 00:22:46.740
there. I mean, not necessarily. I mean. You know

00:22:46.740 –> 00:22:53.180
what I mean? Knuckle that shaft. There’s a lot

00:22:53.180 –> 00:22:55.420
of innuendo when you talk about podcast recording

00:22:55.420 –> 00:23:01.740
gear. So this new X -Files reboot is being spearheaded

00:23:01.740 –> 00:23:06.240
by Ryan Coogler of Sinners. And they have announced

00:23:06.240 –> 00:23:08.660
this week that they cast their first star, which

00:23:08.660 –> 00:23:12.809
is Danielle Deadweiler from the piano. And it’s

00:23:12.809 –> 00:23:15.190
for Hulu. And it’s going to be showrun by Jennifer

00:23:15.190 –> 00:23:17.769
Yale of the Copenhagen test, which I’m not familiar

00:23:17.769 –> 00:23:20.329
with. What do you what do you guys think that

00:23:20.329 –> 00:23:24.190
was you guys promising? What’s going on? I mean,

00:23:24.269 –> 00:23:26.509
I guess I don’t have a dog in the fight since,

00:23:26.809 –> 00:23:29.869
like, if if he if it’s different, it’s not going

00:23:29.869 –> 00:23:32.990
to bother me the way it would like purists, you

00:23:32.990 –> 00:23:36.109
know, like people are very protective of something

00:23:36.109 –> 00:23:39.089
that they really enjoy in any time. Someone else

00:23:39.089 –> 00:23:42.150
comes along and plays with it. It can divide

00:23:42.150 –> 00:23:46.849
people I mean I mentioned last time like I liked

00:23:46.849 –> 00:23:48.950
sinners, but I didn’t like the vampire aspect

00:23:48.950 –> 00:23:53.809
so Cougar you gotta impress people like me do

00:23:53.809 –> 00:23:56.730
better. Well. Yeah, he’s not he’s not sure running

00:23:56.730 –> 00:24:00.190
it And he’s my understanding he’s directing and

00:24:00.190 –> 00:24:02.170
potentially writing the first episode called

00:24:02.170 –> 00:24:05.109
a pilot Which is usually how it goes is the like

00:24:05.109 –> 00:24:07.569
big name really only does like the first yeah

00:24:07.569 –> 00:24:10.109
thing and then they have to get a check every

00:24:10.109 –> 00:24:12.769
episode after that I think it’s gonna be interesting.

00:24:12.809 –> 00:24:14.630
I think the fun thing about the x -files is it

00:24:14.630 –> 00:24:16.589
is just like an anthology You don’t necessarily

00:24:16.589 –> 00:24:18.529
have to have like the whole Mulder and Scully

00:24:18.529 –> 00:24:20.230
aspect of it because the x -files are ongoing.

00:24:20.230 –> 00:24:22.779
There’s all this weird shit that’s consistently

00:24:22.779 –> 00:24:25.059
and constantly happening. So they just get filed

00:24:25.059 –> 00:24:27.119
into the X -Files. So why wouldn’t there be another

00:24:27.119 –> 00:24:30.059
crew of FBI agents who are coming into it to

00:24:30.059 –> 00:24:32.220
discover it? So I’m stoked. I’m curious if they’re

00:24:32.220 –> 00:24:34.259
going to try to do that male -female dynamic

00:24:34.259 –> 00:24:37.380
with the sexual tension aspect that they did

00:24:37.380 –> 00:24:41.099
in X -Files. I agree with you. You could do anything.

00:24:41.180 –> 00:24:43.319
And I actually think now that you say that, it

00:24:43.319 –> 00:24:45.359
would probably be better if they did something

00:24:45.359 –> 00:24:48.559
different. Because the worst thing about reboots

00:24:48.559 –> 00:24:50.380
is when they go back to their old tricks. You

00:24:50.380 –> 00:24:54.240
know, like I like every once in a while, like

00:24:54.240 –> 00:24:55.920
putting the sprinkling, it’s like salt. You do

00:24:55.920 –> 00:24:58.240
like one or two callback kind of things. Great.

00:24:58.759 –> 00:25:00.500
But I think when you kind of dwell and just try

00:25:00.500 –> 00:25:02.940
to remake it and capture that nostalgia, like

00:25:02.940 –> 00:25:06.299
you always kind of trip up and fail. What’s what’s

00:25:06.299 –> 00:25:08.880
also interesting about it coming out is like

00:25:08.880 –> 00:25:11.039
if there’s all this talk of aliens are real.

00:25:11.640 –> 00:25:14.240
I’m like. Well, that’s a good point. We do live

00:25:14.240 –> 00:25:17.059
in a whole new context of that. But I mean, that

00:25:17.059 –> 00:25:19.460
opens the door to like all sorts of it could

00:25:19.460 –> 00:25:22.599
be a episode. You know, I’m sure he will do a

00:25:22.599 –> 00:25:24.720
great job with it. Yeah. I mean, you know, now

00:25:24.720 –> 00:25:26.759
you bring it up this week. Also, President Obama

00:25:26.759 –> 00:25:31.019
went on a podcast and said aliens are real. And,

00:25:31.019 –> 00:25:32.859
you know, he cleaned it up and said that, like,

00:25:32.920 –> 00:25:35.039
you never saw evidence of aliens, but that, you

00:25:35.039 –> 00:25:37.880
know. There was ufo stuff in in the government

00:25:37.880 –> 00:25:39.460
that you know, the particles are out there I

00:25:39.460 –> 00:25:40.759
mean like they’ve already discovered like what

00:25:40.759 –> 00:25:42.759
is it on like the moons of neptune and under

00:25:42.759 –> 00:25:44.460
the ice? Like there’s like living like, you know

00:25:44.460 –> 00:25:46.519
worms or snakes and stuff like that So that’s

00:25:46.519 –> 00:25:48.160
that’s that’s technically like an alien. I don’t

00:25:48.160 –> 00:25:49.819
think that’s been proven, but there’s a lot of

00:25:49.819 –> 00:25:51.779
suspicion There’s like a lot of you know talk

00:25:51.779 –> 00:25:53.640
that there’s like other organisms out there I

00:25:53.640 –> 00:25:55.700
mean in what what obama’s reverencing was the

00:25:55.700 –> 00:25:57.819
fermi paradox, which is literally if you do the

00:25:57.819 –> 00:26:00.220
math There’s just no way there wouldn’t be other

00:26:00.220 –> 00:26:02.119
life out there exactly. Yeah, what is it? Like

00:26:02.119 –> 00:26:04.240
the Carl Sagan from contact? It’s like an awful

00:26:04.240 –> 00:26:06.579
lot of you know waste of space. Yeah, yeah just

00:26:06.579 –> 00:26:09.200
to be us Yeah, it is. I mean you’re talking billions

00:26:09.200 –> 00:26:11.200
and billions of galaxy There’s more stars than

00:26:11.200 –> 00:26:12.839
grains of sand on the earth something like that

00:26:12.839 –> 00:26:14.559
and each one of those we’re finding It’s more

00:26:14.559 –> 00:26:17.380
common that they have planets than not You know,

00:26:17.460 –> 00:26:19.460
I love it. I hope there is and I hope they never

00:26:19.460 –> 00:26:23.299
come here I want the government to start talking

00:26:23.299 –> 00:26:25.440
about ghosts. I feel like that’s that’s what

00:26:25.440 –> 00:26:27.779
we’re missing right now. Just throw that in.

00:26:28.000 –> 00:26:29.700
Well, on a future episode, I’ll have to tell

00:26:29.700 –> 00:26:32.380
you my the evidence I’ve seen of ghosts. And

00:26:32.380 –> 00:26:33.640
I’m not talking about like a personal hunting

00:26:33.640 –> 00:26:36.099
story like I worked on a documentary about ghosts.

00:26:36.160 –> 00:26:38.119
Oh, yeah. Went to some scientists and they’re

00:26:38.119 –> 00:26:40.559
like showing evidence. I’ll talk. I’m a skeptic,

00:26:40.579 –> 00:26:43.119
so I will. Yeah, hell yeah. Let’s let’s let’s

00:26:43.119 –> 00:26:45.500
we’ll have that convo in a future episode. The

00:26:45.500 –> 00:26:48.880
last thing I wanted to bring up is there’s going

00:26:48.880 –> 00:26:52.200
to be a Neuromancer series at Apple. Oh, what?

00:26:52.900 –> 00:26:55.859
Neuromancer. Are you Taffy? You know Neuromancer?

00:26:56.279 –> 00:26:57.579
I feel like I know the name. I’m trying to picture

00:26:57.579 –> 00:27:00.940
it. OK. So Neuromancer is a William Gibson book,

00:27:01.640 –> 00:27:04.200
which is basically people. It’s like it’s like

00:27:04.200 –> 00:27:08.380
the first. I think people often credit it with

00:27:08.380 –> 00:27:12.779
creating the genre of cyberpunk, and it really

00:27:12.779 –> 00:27:15.539
introduced a lot of the tropes of cyberpunk that

00:27:15.539 –> 00:27:19.000
sort of gritty technology, but. It’s like futuristic,

00:27:19.240 –> 00:27:21.759
but like kind of a gritty, lo -fi kind of version

00:27:21.759 –> 00:27:24.420
of it. And the, the whole idea of the matrix,

00:27:24.460 –> 00:27:26.839
like that term comes from no -mancer. Um, a lot

00:27:26.839 –> 00:27:28.339
of the characters are based on characters in

00:27:28.339 –> 00:27:31.900
it. So, um, but it’s, it’s like the granddaddy

00:27:31.900 –> 00:27:34.279
can, it’s like doing Dune, but for cyberpunk,

00:27:34.420 –> 00:27:37.660
you know, and, um, it’s considered to be kind

00:27:37.660 –> 00:27:40.839
of, uh, unfilmable, which is why it hasn’t been

00:27:40.839 –> 00:27:43.779
made, uh, up till now. I think the technology

00:27:43.779 –> 00:27:47.400
wasn’t there to really do it justice. And so.

00:27:47.470 –> 00:27:48.950
It’s kind of exciting that they’re going to take

00:27:48.950 –> 00:27:50.670
a swing at it. And, you know, Apple’s kind of

00:27:50.670 –> 00:27:53.250
established itself as the home for sci -fi and

00:27:53.250 –> 00:27:55.789
the big streamers. So I think they’re going to

00:27:55.789 –> 00:27:57.410
do a pretty good job. They tend to knock it out

00:27:57.410 –> 00:27:59.609
of the park. And it’s being helmed by the Dark

00:27:59.609 –> 00:28:02.130
Winds creator, Graham Rowland and slight director,

00:28:02.309 –> 00:28:04.890
J .D. Dillard. I like anything Apple does it

00:28:04.890 –> 00:28:06.829
these days. Like all their sci -fi stuff is just

00:28:06.829 –> 00:28:09.910
amazing. It is foundations. For all mankind hello

00:28:09.910 –> 00:28:13.009
tomorrow like their silo adaptation. Oh my goodness.

00:28:13.009 –> 00:28:14.549
It’s fancy. Yeah, like everything they’ve done

00:28:14.549 –> 00:28:16.450
I’m just I’m on board. Did they do the expense?

00:28:16.450 –> 00:28:19.089
I thought the expense was Amazon. I thought that

00:28:19.089 –> 00:28:20.910
was Apple. You might be right. Maybe it’s the

00:28:20.910 –> 00:28:22.930
foundation. You’re thinking foundation. Yeah.

00:28:23.150 –> 00:28:24.769
Yeah. Yeah. I like the expanse, too. But that

00:28:24.769 –> 00:28:27.430
was that was I think pretty sure it’s Amazon.

00:28:27.809 –> 00:28:34.549
So that’s exciting. I just wanted to kind of

00:28:34.549 –> 00:28:37.819
announce that more than anything. Great. Well,

00:28:37.839 –> 00:28:39.920
that brings us to the end of that. And we’re

00:28:39.920 –> 00:28:43.279
going to segue now into our main topic conversation

00:28:43.279 –> 00:28:47.039
with our guest here, Taffeta Darling, who we’re

00:28:47.039 –> 00:28:49.539
going to let introduce herself because well,

00:28:49.539 –> 00:28:50.839
actually, I’m going to hand it over to Peter.

00:28:50.900 –> 00:28:54.640
I think you’ve got some things to say. So Taffeta

00:28:54.640 –> 00:28:58.180
Darling. Hello and welcome. We’re excited to

00:28:58.180 –> 00:29:01.900
have you. Could you speak about your name? Because

00:29:01.900 –> 00:29:03.680
when I met you and you’re like, you tell me that

00:29:03.680 –> 00:29:06.500
it references something that I think. listeners

00:29:06.500 –> 00:29:09.119
might get a kick out of. Oh, yeah. It’s my favorite

00:29:09.119 –> 00:29:11.099
movie is Jane Frankenstein. I’m a huge Mel Brooks

00:29:11.099 –> 00:29:13.059
fan. And there is a scene in there where Madeline

00:29:13.059 –> 00:29:16.599
Kahn and Dean Wilder splitting as he goes off

00:29:16.599 –> 00:29:19.240
to Transylvania. And she’s in this taffeta dress

00:29:19.240 –> 00:29:22.210
and her nails are done. And it just, I know it’s

00:29:22.210 –> 00:29:24.069
a silly scene where he tries to hug her and she’s

00:29:24.069 –> 00:29:26.230
like, Oh, the dress to dress. It’s Taffeta darling.

00:29:26.349 –> 00:29:28.170
He’s like Taffeta darling. She’s like, no, it

00:29:28.170 –> 00:29:30.450
recalls so easily. So it just kind of became

00:29:30.450 –> 00:29:33.289
like my moniker almost as a beacon for people

00:29:33.289 –> 00:29:35.210
who may like kind of like, you know, in the nerdy

00:29:35.210 –> 00:29:37.049
world towards like, Hey, like if you get this

00:29:37.049 –> 00:29:38.970
reference, we’re probably going to have something

00:29:38.970 –> 00:29:40.809
to talk about because my life is essentially

00:29:40.809 –> 00:29:44.069
ran by movie quotes and song lyrics. So that’s

00:29:44.069 –> 00:29:47.170
just kind of what I, what I, what I took on was

00:29:47.170 –> 00:29:50.440
that. Right on. No, it’s cool. It’s fun to learn

00:29:50.440 –> 00:29:54.599
those stories, you know, by names. I like when

00:29:54.599 –> 00:29:56.440
they finally see the movie, they’re like, oh,

00:29:56.579 –> 00:29:58.660
I’m like, yeah, okay. I’m like, yeah, it’s funny,

00:29:58.779 –> 00:30:00.440
right? It’s just it’s the most ridiculous thing

00:30:00.440 –> 00:30:02.440
and it works so well. And then when I got married,

00:30:02.539 –> 00:30:05.279
my dress was taffeta. So it was like this whole

00:30:05.279 –> 00:30:08.099
full circle thing. Right. Did you have any other

00:30:08.099 –> 00:30:10.319
like runner up names from any other movies or

00:30:10.319 –> 00:30:13.240
anything you were considering? No, no. Well,

00:30:13.240 –> 00:30:16.220
when I was on the roller derby team, like my

00:30:16.220 –> 00:30:18.099
name was like fatally yours. And then it was

00:30:18.099 –> 00:30:20.680
also tick tick boom. But those were just like

00:30:20.680 –> 00:30:22.660
roller derby names. Like I essentially had like

00:30:22.660 –> 00:30:24.900
my pinup career, which I started and like everyone

00:30:24.900 –> 00:30:26.500
kind of has like their own moniker. They’re like,

00:30:26.500 –> 00:30:28.619
you know, cool little sassy name they use. And

00:30:28.619 –> 00:30:31.059
I just went with that because it just makes perfect

00:30:31.059 –> 00:30:34.400
sense. You did Derby. That’s like a very Texas

00:30:34.400 –> 00:30:36.680
thing. I feel like it is a very Texas thing big

00:30:36.680 –> 00:30:39.660
in Colorado, too Yeah, Austin was like the the

00:30:39.660 –> 00:30:40.940
the roller girls in Austin were like the first

00:30:40.940 –> 00:30:43.339
like bank trying to Bank track to get picked

00:30:43.339 –> 00:30:45.559
up and were big and drew Barrymore did that whole

00:30:45.559 –> 00:30:47.900
movie about them and stuff like that Yeah, right.

00:30:48.119 –> 00:30:49.640
They maybe I guess that’s why I’m thinking that

00:30:49.640 –> 00:30:52.779
mm -hmm. Well that that’s very cool. Um, yeah,

00:30:52.900 –> 00:30:58.079
so you You have a lot under your belt You got

00:30:58.079 –> 00:31:01.400
pinup model Cosplayer, stop me if I’m wrong,

00:31:01.720 –> 00:31:04.640
convention moderator, pop culture historian,

00:31:05.700 –> 00:31:09.220
comic art specialist. And did we miss anything?

00:31:11.160 –> 00:31:14.019
I’m just an all around cool person. Also from

00:31:14.019 –> 00:31:16.220
the punk and hardcore scene, more punk probably.

00:31:16.519 –> 00:31:18.940
A bit more punk, yeah. I grew up listening to

00:31:18.940 –> 00:31:21.759
everything off of Fat Records and Alternative

00:31:21.759 –> 00:31:24.079
Tentacles and pretty much Alternative Tentacles

00:31:24.079 –> 00:31:27.059
was very formative for me. Hopeless Records,

00:31:27.319 –> 00:31:31.869
yeah, all the fun. Yeah, so Peter and I just

00:31:31.869 –> 00:31:34.410
recently met Tafeta who’s who’s relatively new

00:31:34.410 –> 00:31:38.470
to Los Angeles and obviously kind of hit it right

00:31:38.470 –> 00:31:40.470
off because of we have all these things in common

00:31:40.470 –> 00:31:43.309
and She seemed like a wonderful guest to have

00:31:43.309 –> 00:31:45.809
on the pod. So that’s why she’s here. Yeah, I

00:31:45.809 –> 00:31:49.319
don’t know. Absolutely. So we were stoked Share

00:31:49.319 –> 00:31:53.839
you with the world the party knows you It’s fun.

00:31:53.960 –> 00:31:55.779
It’s fun. I’m stoked like I said I’ve been trying

00:31:55.779 –> 00:31:58.180
to find like different crews in my in my people

00:31:58.180 –> 00:31:59.759
and you’re covered in John Carpenter tattoos

00:31:59.759 –> 00:32:01.660
And you listen to fucking punk rock and you know

00:32:01.660 –> 00:32:03.279
when listening knows what I’m who I’m pointing

00:32:03.279 –> 00:32:07.720
at But both of those are my world so it worked

00:32:07.720 –> 00:32:10.259
out Yeah, yeah, totally. It’s a and you like

00:32:10.259 –> 00:32:13.799
D &D and I like D &D. So we got that going on.

00:32:15.059 –> 00:32:18.279
So let’s let’s start with what’s a fun piece

00:32:18.279 –> 00:32:20.240
of trivia about you. I mean, your name was one

00:32:20.240 –> 00:32:21.740
of them, but I figure you got something else

00:32:21.740 –> 00:32:24.839
that might be worth sharing. Oh, I am super white

00:32:24.839 –> 00:32:27.079
passing because I was born in Guatemala. I’m

00:32:27.079 –> 00:32:28.900
from Central America. I lived there for a little

00:32:28.900 –> 00:32:34.279
bit until I went to Texas. And I have a long

00:32:34.279 –> 00:32:37.539
history of playing French horn. from like seventh

00:32:37.539 –> 00:32:40.559
grade into my senior year. I was gonna go to

00:32:40.559 –> 00:32:43.400
school for music composition and education. I

00:32:43.400 –> 00:32:47.440
know, right? I was in marching band and played

00:32:47.440 –> 00:32:50.640
trumpet in jazz band. Were you in a ska band?

00:32:51.099 –> 00:32:55.000
I wasn’t a ska band. I knew it. Anyone who plays

00:32:55.000 –> 00:32:58.680
horn like ska. I wasn’t a very small, local,

00:32:58.940 –> 00:33:01.240
indie ska band. What was the name of the ska

00:33:01.240 –> 00:33:04.319
on the title? There was, yeah, in the 90s you

00:33:04.319 –> 00:33:07.539
had to. We were called the ska walkers. It all

00:33:07.539 –> 00:33:11.000
ties in. Did you guys do any, like, silly covers?

00:33:12.309 –> 00:33:15.609
Not really. I was just kind of there for like

00:33:15.609 –> 00:33:17.410
the first iteration for it, for the first summer

00:33:17.410 –> 00:33:18.849
of it and stuff. I didn’t get along with the

00:33:18.849 –> 00:33:20.809
trombone player who wanted to write my parts

00:33:20.809 –> 00:33:23.309
for me. Um, rather than letting me play, they

00:33:23.309 –> 00:33:25.190
just liked the idea at the time of having a girl

00:33:25.190 –> 00:33:26.930
trumpet player, which has kind of been most of

00:33:26.930 –> 00:33:29.789
my life. It’s just like, here’s a girl that’s

00:33:29.789 –> 00:33:31.930
cool and knows a shit. So it became like kind

00:33:31.930 –> 00:33:34.210
of like, I mean, I was, I wasn’t going to say

00:33:34.210 –> 00:33:39.890
anything, but I know my place. Um, but we had

00:33:39.890 –> 00:33:42.789
like some fisticuffs in Arno. If you’re listening

00:33:42.789 –> 00:33:45.589
Arno, I was still better than you. Right. It

00:33:45.589 –> 00:33:47.769
was the 90s. It was the 90s. It was a different

00:33:47.769 –> 00:33:51.289
time back then. Do you still practice? No, but

00:33:51.289 –> 00:33:52.970
I’ve thought about getting a horn because I’m

00:33:52.970 –> 00:33:54.970
curious to see like if my armature would still

00:33:54.970 –> 00:33:57.490
work and if I could still, you know, play. I

00:33:57.490 –> 00:33:59.390
am curious, but I want to rent one before I buy

00:33:59.390 –> 00:34:03.750
one. That’s cool. I did not see that coming at

00:34:03.750 –> 00:34:08.909
all. That’s funny. That’s awesome. So one thing

00:34:08.909 –> 00:34:11.250
you told me about that I found very interesting

00:34:11.250 –> 00:34:13.630
as we started getting comic books is you made

00:34:13.630 –> 00:34:16.610
your own. I did. Could you talk about that? Yeah,

00:34:16.670 –> 00:34:20.110
yeah, like back in the day, I came across some

00:34:20.110 –> 00:34:23.389
illustrators and some writers overseas, Stefano

00:34:23.389 –> 00:34:28.590
Cardicelli and Andrea Amenta. Because I did dependent

00:34:28.590 –> 00:34:30.670
modeling and I did a lot of like, you know, reference

00:34:30.670 –> 00:34:32.250
modeling for different, you know, artists and

00:34:32.250 –> 00:34:35.150
stuff. So I’m kind of known for that in collaborations.

00:34:35.309 –> 00:34:37.269
And so they’re like, hey, we’d like to feature

00:34:37.269 –> 00:34:38.929
you in our next comic. And I was like, OK, well,

00:34:38.989 –> 00:34:41.690
how about the story? And so I kind of gave them

00:34:41.690 –> 00:34:43.389
the basis for it, and they put it all together

00:34:43.389 –> 00:34:46.730
and they wrote it. And we did a kickstarter for

00:34:46.730 –> 00:34:49.449
it, and it made the list of things we like, and

00:34:49.449 –> 00:34:52.449
it was kickstarted in probably a couple of days.

00:34:52.809 –> 00:34:56.090
So that was cool. That’s amazing. It was pretty

00:34:56.090 –> 00:34:59.230
ridiculous. And I came up with the name The Mysterious

00:34:59.230 –> 00:35:01.389
Adventures of the Daring Darling Private Dick.

00:35:01.530 –> 00:35:04.889
I was heavily influenced by Buckaroo Manzai.

00:35:05.829 –> 00:35:08.570
And essentially, I’m just… It was mainly attribute

00:35:08.570 –> 00:35:10.949
to my cat that was dying. I thought him and I

00:35:10.949 –> 00:35:13.349
would have like one last adventure. And so we

00:35:13.349 –> 00:35:16.230
put it into a comic tour. He was very interactive.

00:35:16.230 –> 00:35:18.269
He was my pilot and like my, you know, conscience

00:35:18.269 –> 00:35:20.469
where we went on all these adventures and I was

00:35:20.469 –> 00:35:24.730
a private dick that was looking for relics. Essentially,

00:35:24.730 –> 00:35:26.650
it was like in the future and Earth had become

00:35:26.650 –> 00:35:29.190
just like a museum of everything. So that was.

00:35:29.389 –> 00:35:31.949
My adventures of going off and being hired as

00:35:31.949 –> 00:35:34.489
a bounty hunter and to bring back items to a

00:35:34.489 –> 00:35:36.730
store with your camera Yes with my cat. He was

00:35:36.730 –> 00:35:38.869
I’m a cat person so that resonates deeply with

00:35:38.869 –> 00:35:41.050
me. Yeah, that’s that’s very sweet We’re all

00:35:41.050 –> 00:35:45.070
cat people here at the pod Yeah, that I thought

00:35:45.070 –> 00:35:47.670
assuming I got a dog too. I like dogs as well,

00:35:47.690 –> 00:35:50.409
but I’m just saying like I know Peter has he

00:35:50.409 –> 00:35:51.610
doesn’t want to mention this but he got like

00:35:51.610 –> 00:35:57.800
seven cats Yeah, I mean I I I guess I’m not a

00:35:57.800 –> 00:36:01.860
cat or dog person. I favor the individual animal.

00:36:02.079 –> 00:36:04.300
Because I’ve met assholes on both sides of the

00:36:04.300 –> 00:36:07.440
fence and also great. Totally. Cats tend to have

00:36:07.440 –> 00:36:10.659
more assholes, but that’s just because they’re,

00:36:10.659 –> 00:36:13.460
you know, they’re naturally kind of aloof. Yeah,

00:36:13.659 –> 00:36:15.960
they’re more independent than they are codependent

00:36:15.960 –> 00:36:18.460
like dogs. But if you get a good cat, man, it’s

00:36:18.460 –> 00:36:20.079
like your best friend. That’s a Houdini. He was

00:36:20.079 –> 00:36:22.099
my soul mate. Yeah. And you feel like you earned

00:36:22.099 –> 00:36:24.639
it. Because dogs like they’ll love you if most

00:36:24.639 –> 00:36:27.340
dogs are just love you because you’re fun, but

00:36:27.340 –> 00:36:29.699
cats It’s like let me fill you out for a few

00:36:29.699 –> 00:36:31.960
years first, you know. Yeah. Yeah, exactly I

00:36:31.960 –> 00:36:35.000
had him for 19 years. So that’s a good run. It

00:36:35.000 –> 00:36:37.440
was it was I still don’t feel it was enough But

00:36:37.440 –> 00:36:39.260
yeah, that was that was the comic book we did

00:36:39.260 –> 00:36:41.519
and it was just really a tribute to him Was he

00:36:41.519 –> 00:36:44.480
the one with a cool white? No, that was oh, uh,

00:36:44.679 –> 00:36:47.159
that’s oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh his name for the planet.

00:36:47.360 –> 00:36:49.539
Oh, uh in the DC universe I don’t know. I just

00:36:49.539 –> 00:36:52.340
went with that but her name he was my I got him

00:36:52.340 –> 00:36:56.440
in my marriage like so like 25 30 years ago Not

00:36:56.440 –> 00:36:58.780
30 years ago. I wasn’t 15 when I got married

00:36:58.780 –> 00:37:00.880
The real question is how old are you got divorced?

00:37:01.900 –> 00:37:06.010
30 So you had a whole life before 30 Yeah, yeah,

00:37:06.010 –> 00:37:08.010
you’re not the same person at 20 and 30 and that’s

00:37:08.010 –> 00:37:10.070
pretty much what happened We got married super

00:37:10.070 –> 00:37:12.250
early or 30 and 40 really. Yeah, that’s true.

00:37:12.250 –> 00:37:16.250
But I got a cool cat out of it It’s a good name

00:37:16.250 –> 00:37:18.469
Houdini. Yeah. Yeah, I’m a big fan of Harry Houdini

00:37:18.469 –> 00:37:20.849
And that was kind of like his tribute and I adopted

00:37:20.849 –> 00:37:22.610
him in March and Harry Houdini’s birthday was

00:37:22.610 –> 00:37:23.969
like I think the week later and I was like, all

00:37:23.969 –> 00:37:26.869
right, it works Right on. That’s that’s very

00:37:26.869 –> 00:37:31.070
cool So yeah, let’s actually one other thing.

00:37:31.150 –> 00:37:33.809
Yeah, you and I share a huge love for Big Trouble

00:37:33.809 –> 00:37:36.829
in Little China. Yes. And you were immortalized

00:37:36.829 –> 00:37:39.070
in the Big Trouble in Little China comic series

00:37:39.070 –> 00:37:41.650
that Boom put out. Yes. Tell people how that

00:37:41.650 –> 00:37:43.639
happened, because that’s that’s. Second best

00:37:43.639 –> 00:37:45.559
thing to being in the movie, right? But you’re

00:37:45.559 –> 00:37:48.400
yourself. I am. I’m I’m I’m part of the canon,

00:37:48.440 –> 00:37:51.639
which is amazing. At the time, my friend Fred

00:37:51.639 –> 00:37:53.699
Van Lente was writing it and my friend Joe Isma,

00:37:53.820 –> 00:37:57.139
who’s a Texas guy and an artist friend of mine,

00:37:57.659 –> 00:38:00.280
they were they were they were the team on that.

00:38:00.300 –> 00:38:02.880
And they had come on my podcast when it first

00:38:02.880 –> 00:38:04.579
released just because I wanted to talk to them

00:38:04.579 –> 00:38:06.000
about it. I was like, holy shit, you’re doing

00:38:06.000 –> 00:38:10.619
a comic of my favorite movie. And. Issue 16 came

00:38:10.619 –> 00:38:12.639
out and I you know, just went picked up my thing

00:38:12.639 –> 00:38:15.519
and was just reading it and I was like What oh

00:38:15.519 –> 00:38:17.239
my gosh, and so I had to call him and be like,

00:38:17.340 –> 00:38:18.519
hey, they’re like, oh do you see it? So I didn’t

00:38:18.519 –> 00:38:22.179
know it was gonna happen I had no clue that was

00:38:22.179 –> 00:38:25.780
gonna happen and Yeah, I was I have you know,

00:38:25.780 –> 00:38:30.099
like two pages in that issue and you know Jack

00:38:30.099 –> 00:38:32.599
Burton calls me out and I have like my whole

00:38:32.599 –> 00:38:35.260
like, you know semi truck that says fangirls

00:38:35.260 –> 00:38:37.539
on it and that was that was pretty cool because

00:38:37.539 –> 00:38:39.739
eventually I got to meet John Carpenter again.

00:38:40.380 –> 00:38:42.420
And he signed it for me. And he was like, well,

00:38:42.420 –> 00:38:43.760
what is this about? And I was like, well, I’m

00:38:43.760 –> 00:38:45.380
such a big fan. They put me in the comic. And

00:38:45.380 –> 00:38:47.179
he was like, what? I was like, I know, right?

00:38:47.460 –> 00:38:50.320
So he signed it. It’s kind of my jam. I got to

00:38:50.320 –> 00:38:53.619
do the Peter Kwong and Jason Hong Big Trouble

00:38:53.619 –> 00:38:56.460
in Old China panel and talk to them for 30 minutes.

00:38:56.480 –> 00:39:00.280
And they signed it. So yeah, that’s that’s how

00:39:00.280 –> 00:39:05.360
it happened. Great. That’s awesome. So it is

00:39:05.360 –> 00:39:07.989
a very. Random thing to be able to tell people.

00:39:07.989 –> 00:39:09.150
Oh, yeah, I’m in this issue and they’re like

00:39:09.150 –> 00:39:12.510
what? My life is fun. No, I mean, that’s that’s

00:39:12.510 –> 00:39:14.929
some serious bragging rights. Yeah, you gotta

00:39:14.929 –> 00:39:20.349
get in the next one Peter We’ll see So let’s

00:39:20.349 –> 00:39:23.690
talk horror comics It’s like superheroes get

00:39:23.690 –> 00:39:27.610
all the notoriety But you being a comic expert,

00:39:27.610 –> 00:39:30.429
what can you you know, like as a horror fan,

00:39:30.429 –> 00:39:33.050
I read the literature I watch the movies, but

00:39:33.050 –> 00:39:35.960
I have not Really kept up with horror comics.

00:39:35.960 –> 00:39:37.900
I think I was telling you the silver coin was

00:39:37.900 –> 00:39:41.139
the one that graphic novel that I got It’s more

00:39:41.139 –> 00:39:44.360
recent than I thought was cool. But uh, yeah,

00:39:44.480 –> 00:39:48.380
tell us what you think of them and any Like yeah,

00:39:48.619 –> 00:39:50.980
maybe you could like just kind of give us an

00:39:50.980 –> 00:39:53.579
overlay of like crash course a crash course on

00:39:53.579 –> 00:39:55.920
horror comics like, you know without getting

00:39:55.920 –> 00:39:59.630
too specific on, you know, but like like What’s

00:39:59.630 –> 00:40:01.730
the vibe like? You know, like, what is it like?

00:40:01.869 –> 00:40:03.610
It’s a good time for horror comics. Like my love

00:40:03.610 –> 00:40:05.269
for it goes all the way back to like Tales from

00:40:05.269 –> 00:40:07.469
the Crypt, like the animated, not the animated,

00:40:07.489 –> 00:40:09.449
but the HBO series and eventually the animated

00:40:09.449 –> 00:40:12.250
one. Like I really love horror anthologies like

00:40:12.250 –> 00:40:13.809
Tales from the Dark Side, Tales from the Crypt,

00:40:13.949 –> 00:40:15.250
Tales from the Hood, like all that stuff is,

00:40:15.269 –> 00:40:18.030
you know, I love just like these little short

00:40:18.030 –> 00:40:22.170
bits of the anthologies that we get. And that’s

00:40:22.170 –> 00:40:24.250
pretty much what I read and I lean into these

00:40:24.250 –> 00:40:27.789
days, starting with Tales from the Crypt. And

00:40:27.789 –> 00:40:30.590
I’ve been more of a horror fan than I have any

00:40:30.590 –> 00:40:32.329
other genre. Like, yes, I love Batman and I can

00:40:32.329 –> 00:40:34.050
talk about Batman, but I can talk about horror

00:40:34.050 –> 00:40:36.889
all day. That’s just it became just my comfort

00:40:36.889 –> 00:40:38.969
genre, I guess, because like the horrors of life

00:40:38.969 –> 00:40:42.090
have always been just so more real than like,

00:40:42.090 –> 00:40:44.150
you know, boogeyman or whatever else that I can

00:40:44.150 –> 00:40:47.269
just watch that and watch and get comfort out

00:40:47.269 –> 00:40:50.789
of that. Not being real. I don’t know. So lately

00:40:50.789 –> 00:40:53.389
there’s a couple of titles that are out there

00:40:53.389 –> 00:40:55.690
beneath the trees where nobody sees is a huge

00:40:55.690 –> 00:40:57.429
one that’s coming out right now. That’s out by

00:40:57.429 –> 00:41:00.739
Patrick Horvath. And it essentially takes like

00:41:00.739 –> 00:41:05.000
Dexter, like the Dexter theme of, you know, taking

00:41:05.000 –> 00:41:06.719
out the bad guys or whatever. But it’s like this

00:41:06.719 –> 00:41:08.840
gardener that’s just like in a small town and

00:41:08.840 –> 00:41:11.599
it’s done in the art that’s very reminiscent

00:41:11.599 –> 00:41:13.139
to like, you remember the Richard Scary books

00:41:13.139 –> 00:41:15.239
back in the day or the Bernstein Bearers. It’s

00:41:15.239 –> 00:41:17.659
like that. So it’s a really interesting juxtaposition

00:41:17.659 –> 00:41:19.320
because like everything’s like anthropomorphic

00:41:19.320 –> 00:41:21.219
animals of this town. And there’s like this bear

00:41:21.219 –> 00:41:23.320
who takes people out and, you know, buries them

00:41:23.320 –> 00:41:25.940
in the garden. And so that’s like a really popular

00:41:25.940 –> 00:41:29.110
one because people like the idea of This really

00:41:29.110 –> 00:41:31.969
cool childlike art but this like, you know brutal

00:41:31.969 –> 00:41:34.190
murders that are happening as well and that’s

00:41:34.190 –> 00:41:37.050
pretty popular I like hello darkness Which is

00:41:37.050 –> 00:41:39.610
also an anthology and it’s told by various people

00:41:39.610 –> 00:41:41.469
uh big artists and writers They come together

00:41:41.469 –> 00:41:43.530
and kind of tell their tales and I think right

00:41:43.530 –> 00:41:47.269
now There’s not I guess there is like a superhero

00:41:47.269 –> 00:41:50.170
fatigue and so it’s giving a time for like a

00:41:50.170 –> 00:41:52.769
lot of indie comics to shine and that’s kind

00:41:52.769 –> 00:41:54.710
of one of the main things that like ignition

00:41:54.710 –> 00:41:56.369
is doing like they’re putting out a lot of their

00:41:56.369 –> 00:41:59.349
like horror comics and that’s kind of a new publication

00:41:59.349 –> 00:42:01.829
or a publisher from Jeremy Hahn who did The Beauty

00:42:01.829 –> 00:42:03.889
back in the day, which is now like a, you know,

00:42:03.949 –> 00:42:07.090
a TV show. Yeah, which is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:07.170 –> 00:42:08.510
A little different from the book, but it’s out.

00:42:08.909 –> 00:42:10.829
You’ve got James Tynan who does, you know, something

00:42:10.829 –> 00:42:14.230
is killing the children and he’s done House of

00:42:14.230 –> 00:42:15.849
Slaughter and he’s getting his stuff option.

00:42:15.849 –> 00:42:20.710
So like all these production companies are looking

00:42:20.710 –> 00:42:23.329
at horror, at indie horror to get better stories.

00:42:23.329 –> 00:42:26.039
And I think right now that’s kind of where more

00:42:26.039 –> 00:42:27.880
readers are going as well, because I think if

00:42:27.880 –> 00:42:30.059
you have that fatigue of superheroes or whatever,

00:42:30.199 –> 00:42:32.659
you know, you can find relief in anthologies

00:42:32.659 –> 00:42:34.940
or creepy shit that you can find on the shelf

00:42:34.940 –> 00:42:38.340
and stuff. Well, an IP is everything and in Hollywood,

00:42:38.539 –> 00:42:41.380
you know, so they don’t they don’t, you know,

00:42:41.940 –> 00:42:44.659
why take a risk on a news story that somebody

00:42:44.659 –> 00:42:47.519
wrote when you could just go buy one that has

00:42:47.519 –> 00:42:50.559
a fan base, you know? Yeah, exactly. Do you is

00:42:50.559 –> 00:42:53.849
there a publisher that’s kind of known for? horror

00:42:53.849 –> 00:42:58.489
comics more than others? Probably image. I think

00:42:58.489 –> 00:43:01.610
image still reigns as far as like their ability

00:43:01.610 –> 00:43:06.050
to put more horror into people’s eyes outside

00:43:06.050 –> 00:43:07.630
of DC and Marvel, because most people, when they

00:43:07.630 –> 00:43:09.190
think of comics, they think of that. And so I

00:43:09.190 –> 00:43:10.829
had people who come to the shop and they’re like,

00:43:11.230 –> 00:43:12.630
oh, I didn’t know there was this kind of comic

00:43:12.630 –> 00:43:15.210
or there was, you know, a sci -fi comic or, you

00:43:15.210 –> 00:43:17.050
know, what is this weird, like, you know, face?

00:43:17.210 –> 00:43:18.789
It’s all melting and bleeding comic. It’s like,

00:43:18.829 –> 00:43:20.210
yeah, dude, there’s more than superheroes. And

00:43:20.210 –> 00:43:21.869
that’s where I shine because I can talk Batman,

00:43:22.050 –> 00:43:24.519
but. I love suggesting new titles to people.

00:43:25.239 –> 00:43:27.619
But I think, answer your question, probably image

00:43:27.619 –> 00:43:30.940
because they, even though they’re not as big

00:43:30.940 –> 00:43:32.800
as Marvel and DC, they’re still pretty big when

00:43:32.800 –> 00:43:34.639
it comes to creator and titles. And because they

00:43:34.639 –> 00:43:38.360
let creators do their own thing. They have my

00:43:38.360 –> 00:43:42.119
first inch. I used to collect comics when I was

00:43:42.119 –> 00:43:44.199
that age, you know, that a lot of people do,

00:43:44.260 –> 00:43:48.280
which is like probably eight through 12 or 13.

00:43:48.380 –> 00:43:52.380
And image was my big I pretty much only collected

00:43:52.380 –> 00:43:55.340
image. And that was in the early day when Spawn

00:43:55.340 –> 00:43:58.679
was still like in the, you know, single digits.

00:43:59.320 –> 00:44:02.079
And I had a couple of number ones, which I probably

00:44:02.079 –> 00:44:04.440
wear something now for a while now. But of course,

00:44:04.659 –> 00:44:06.440
my mom threw them away at some point, I’m sure.

00:44:07.539 –> 00:44:09.599
And anyways, but I never knew that they did horror,

00:44:09.599 –> 00:44:11.639
though. I mean, a lot of their comics were dark.

00:44:12.000 –> 00:44:14.239
That’s what I liked about them compared to like

00:44:14.239 –> 00:44:18.440
X -Men and or, you know, Marvel in DC. There

00:44:18.440 –> 00:44:21.619
was a darkness to image. in a modernist that

00:44:21.619 –> 00:44:23.380
like really resonated with me. Like, I mean,

00:44:23.460 –> 00:44:25.940
I was thinking like the pit and the Max and all

00:44:25.940 –> 00:44:28.960
these like or like Shadowhawk. I mean, Shadowhawk

00:44:28.960 –> 00:44:30.280
was not dark, but like, you know, I mean, there

00:44:30.280 –> 00:44:32.260
was just like Spawn was dark. I mean, and I was

00:44:32.260 –> 00:44:34.760
like the hero comic. Yeah. And like Dark Horse

00:44:34.760 –> 00:44:37.159
has like a lot of the, you know, the Mike Pignola

00:44:37.159 –> 00:44:39.059
stuff, like a lot of the Hellboy stuff, which

00:44:39.059 –> 00:44:41.360
isn’t like straight horror, but it is still kind

00:44:41.360 –> 00:44:43.019
of like the dark arts and stuff and everything

00:44:43.019 –> 00:44:44.860
that’s kind of branched off into like his world

00:44:44.860 –> 00:44:47.559
as well. So does does. Image now have like straight

00:44:47.559 –> 00:44:50.199
horror books to or I don’t they do have straight

00:44:50.199 –> 00:44:51.900
horror books Like, you know, some of the ones

00:44:51.900 –> 00:44:53.760
I brought here like are actually from like, you

00:44:53.760 –> 00:44:57.079
know image but it’s under like a different Yeah,

00:44:57.579 –> 00:44:59.460
yeah, but they’re all you know, kind of put out

00:44:59.460 –> 00:45:02.760
through either image or I think most of these

00:45:02.760 –> 00:45:06.219
are image and I wouldn’t say they have like just

00:45:06.219 –> 00:45:08.679
a straight horror genre But I think just with

00:45:08.679 –> 00:45:10.579
them having the ability to put indie people out

00:45:10.579 –> 00:45:12.559
there more people are putting stuff through them

00:45:12.559 –> 00:45:16.659
cool Here’s a question. It may sound stupid,

00:45:17.099 –> 00:45:21.099
but I think it might be fascinating, since I’m

00:45:21.099 –> 00:45:24.000
kind of ignorant with horror comics, is like

00:45:24.000 –> 00:45:26.559
I grew up watching horror movies, you know, at

00:45:26.559 –> 00:45:28.500
a young age you get grandfathered in, you see

00:45:28.500 –> 00:45:30.219
something scary, you’re like what the fuck, how

00:45:30.219 –> 00:45:31.960
can that scare me, it’s on a screen, it’s not

00:45:31.960 –> 00:45:34.980
real. And occasionally you see a movie that has

00:45:34.980 –> 00:45:39.239
like chilling moments, and I’ll read books and

00:45:39.239 –> 00:45:43.300
find scary moments in them. But do you ever read

00:45:43.300 –> 00:45:45.360
one and you’re like, this is scary. This is disturbing.

00:45:45.460 –> 00:45:48.619
This upsets me like in the comic space. Nothing

00:45:48.619 –> 00:45:50.880
that actually like scares me just because I feel

00:45:50.880 –> 00:45:53.099
like I was super desensitized at a very young

00:45:53.099 –> 00:45:54.719
age. I was watching, you know, Tales from the

00:45:54.719 –> 00:45:57.579
Crypt at like 10. You know, and that’s pretty

00:45:57.579 –> 00:46:03.139
brutal. You know, with the the rated R rating

00:46:03.139 –> 00:46:05.900
or whatever, but there are There are comics where

00:46:05.900 –> 00:46:08.460
I’m like, this is kind of fucked up, you know

00:46:08.460 –> 00:46:15.420
After the fact yeah, no, I think um, yeah, there’s

00:46:15.420 –> 00:46:17.659
definitely some that kind of like, you know I’m

00:46:17.659 –> 00:46:20.079
just like man. This is fucked up like right now

00:46:20.079 –> 00:46:26.380
one of my favorite teams right now as This Okay,

00:46:26.400 –> 00:46:28.000
I was gonna say something else Doug Wagner and

00:46:28.000 –> 00:46:30.639
Daniel Hillard and they tend to like also make

00:46:30.639 –> 00:46:33.599
these really disturbing stories, but the art

00:46:33.599 –> 00:46:35.719
is so simple and colorful that I like that a

00:46:35.719 –> 00:46:39.320
lot. Like this one is just like this crazy furry

00:46:39.320 –> 00:46:44.659
convention and cult murder that happens. This

00:46:44.659 –> 00:46:46.920
one right here, vinyl is the one I sell often

00:46:46.920 –> 00:46:50.590
at the. the store and essentially it’s like Texas

00:46:50.590 –> 00:46:52.449
Chancellor Massacre meets like Charlie Manson

00:46:52.449 –> 00:46:55.449
essentially like this guy is like a hardcore

00:46:55.449 –> 00:46:59.010
serial killer and like he’s so mental and so

00:46:59.010 –> 00:47:00.769
disturbed he doesn’t understand that the FBI

00:47:00.769 –> 00:47:02.849
agent who’s always around isn’t his friend like

00:47:02.849 –> 00:47:04.250
he’s tracking him but he’s like oh this is my

00:47:04.250 –> 00:47:06.210
best friend because he’s always around you know

00:47:06.210 –> 00:47:09.050
the FBI agent gets kidnapped by you know a cult

00:47:09.050 –> 00:47:11.449
that he’s investigating and so you know this

00:47:11.449 –> 00:47:12.829
guy that’s a serial killer is like well I’ve

00:47:12.829 –> 00:47:14.889
got to go save my best friend you know from like

00:47:14.889 –> 00:47:16.989
you know this cult so you’ve got like this like

00:47:16.989 –> 00:47:19.639
clash of You know the serial killer who’s very

00:47:19.639 –> 00:47:22.219
brutal and very gruesome and you know this cult

00:47:22.219 –> 00:47:25.079
of ladies You know Charlie Manson style and it

00:47:25.079 –> 00:47:27.519
just becomes like that’s like, you know kill

00:47:27.519 –> 00:47:29.840
off like in each panel is like more gruesome

00:47:29.840 –> 00:47:31.340
and more bloody and like oh my god, I didn’t

00:47:31.340 –> 00:47:34.300
expect that I actually love like the underlying

00:47:34.300 –> 00:47:37.599
idea there of like two bad guys essentially going

00:47:37.599 –> 00:47:40.420
at it and the body count getting exactly. Yeah.

00:47:40.980 –> 00:47:43.760
Yeah The art the cover of it’s very cool. It

00:47:43.760 –> 00:47:45.739
is, you know I and they actually have a new comic

00:47:45.739 –> 00:47:48.119
coming out where it’s called narco and And the

00:47:48.119 –> 00:47:50.119
main character has narcolepsy and he winds up

00:47:50.119 –> 00:47:52.880
getting he passes out when excited, like in any

00:47:52.880 –> 00:47:54.579
excitement, you know, like through a fanning

00:47:54.579 –> 00:47:57.320
goat kind of. Yes, exactly. And he winds up seeing

00:47:57.320 –> 00:47:59.420
like his neighbor get brutally murdered, which

00:47:59.420 –> 00:48:02.519
is a very like Hitchcock s thing. And so when

00:48:02.519 –> 00:48:04.119
he wakes up, you know, the cops are asking him

00:48:04.119 –> 00:48:05.739
all these questions. And so he actually has to

00:48:05.739 –> 00:48:07.840
go out. He wants to try to find who killed them

00:48:07.840 –> 00:48:09.719
or killed this girl and clear his name. But he

00:48:09.719 –> 00:48:10.960
also has to deal with the fact that, you know,

00:48:10.960 –> 00:48:13.000
he could easily just like faint at any moment.

00:48:13.539 –> 00:48:16.590
So I’m curious about that. But these guys. Are

00:48:16.590 –> 00:48:18.929
just so batshit when people come in and they’re

00:48:18.929 –> 00:48:20.389
like, what do you recommend? I’m like, oh, what’s

00:48:20.389 –> 00:48:21.809
your boundaries? Like, you know, do you like

00:48:21.809 –> 00:48:24.090
a lot of gore? Do you like some bad shit stuff?

00:48:24.130 –> 00:48:25.989
Or do you just want to play it safe? And you

00:48:25.989 –> 00:48:27.389
know, I should also just hop in real quick and

00:48:27.389 –> 00:48:30.469
mention to anyone listening that we will have

00:48:30.469 –> 00:48:34.010
pictures of a lot of these books on our website

00:48:34.010 –> 00:48:36.710
on the show notes. So if you’re curious about

00:48:36.710 –> 00:48:39.070
any of the titles that Taffeta mentions, you

00:48:39.070 –> 00:48:40.730
can go there to find out a little bit more about

00:48:40.730 –> 00:48:43.860
them. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think You know

00:48:43.860 –> 00:48:45.500
there’s there’s a lot that’s out there. I mean

00:48:45.500 –> 00:48:49.480
you can even get like the uh, uh, I don’t know

00:48:49.480 –> 00:48:50.679
like we’ll just talk about rare flavors really

00:48:50.679 –> 00:48:52.179
quick I really like this guy this guy is ram

00:48:52.179 –> 00:48:55.460
v and he also writes a lot of dc stuff But I

00:48:55.460 –> 00:48:57.340
like seeing the people who normally do dc stuff

00:48:57.340 –> 00:49:00.039
and take it into horror And this is like essentially

00:49:00.039 –> 00:49:02.059
like this demon that comes from hell and he’s

00:49:02.059 –> 00:49:05.420
very He wants to be Anthony Bourdain, essentially.

00:49:05.599 –> 00:49:08.239
So he kidnaps a cameraman to take him everywhere

00:49:08.239 –> 00:49:10.079
so he can film him, like, you know, capturing

00:49:10.079 –> 00:49:11.619
people and killing them and, you know, becoming

00:49:11.619 –> 00:49:14.260
this, like, you know, world -class chef around

00:49:14.260 –> 00:49:18.119
Earth and stuff. And it’s… It’s an interesting

00:49:18.119 –> 00:49:22.199
premise. And he… The recipes that are in there,

00:49:22.300 –> 00:49:24.320
even though they’re fake, they read like you

00:49:24.320 –> 00:49:26.179
could easily make something like this and just

00:49:26.179 –> 00:49:30.530
substitute like whatever, you know, meat. for

00:49:30.530 –> 00:49:32.389
your own. And then you’ve got like, you know,

00:49:32.469 –> 00:49:34.809
the universal stuff is really popular right now.

00:49:35.190 –> 00:49:37.869
They’ve got continuing stories of like, you know,

00:49:37.949 –> 00:49:43.449
Kujo from Lac Lagoon, Dracula, Frankenstein and

00:49:43.449 –> 00:49:45.190
the Mummy and the Invisible Man. That’s the one

00:49:45.190 –> 00:49:47.610
that’s going to be getting its trade. And the

00:49:47.610 –> 00:49:50.869
stories aren’t retold. They’re just kind of continuations

00:49:50.869 –> 00:49:52.769
of these characters. So it’s really cool that

00:49:52.769 –> 00:49:55.539
way. The Phantom of the Opera one just dropped

00:49:55.539 –> 00:49:57.400
this week, and I think they’re going to continue

00:49:57.400 –> 00:49:59.360
to do more of those. Maybe we’ll get a hunchback

00:49:59.360 –> 00:50:01.719
and a bride. I don’t know, but like there is.

00:50:01.920 –> 00:50:03.840
Well, that’s really, you know, the Frankenstein

00:50:03.840 –> 00:50:05.639
stuff’s real hot right now with the bride coming

00:50:05.639 –> 00:50:08.280
up. Yeah, exactly. Like I could see them trying

00:50:08.280 –> 00:50:10.579
to capitalize off of that. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

00:50:10.679 –> 00:50:12.300
like there’s, you know, Bernie Wrightson’s like

00:50:12.300 –> 00:50:14.440
Frankenstein alive alive, like got a reissue

00:50:14.440 –> 00:50:16.360
and stuff like that. And he’s kind of like the

00:50:16.360 –> 00:50:18.880
definitive Frankenstein artist and his. Well

00:50:18.880 –> 00:50:20.519
known for doing like all the Stephen King stuff

00:50:20.519 –> 00:50:23.719
as well back in the days So there is a huge like

00:50:23.719 –> 00:50:26.659
horror comic, you know community But I feel it

00:50:26.659 –> 00:50:28.719
gets kind of overlooked because of the superhero

00:50:28.719 –> 00:50:30.300
stuff, but there’s so much out there. That’s

00:50:30.300 –> 00:50:33.239
just fucking bonkers Dora. I’m like, oh my god.

00:50:33.260 –> 00:50:35.460
This is this is creepy to answer a question Nothing

00:50:35.460 –> 00:50:37.360
that scares me, but there is a lot of disturbing

00:50:37.360 –> 00:50:39.280
shit out there and I try to share it every day

00:50:39.280 –> 00:50:42.340
Yeah, right. Yeah Well, we have the reason for

00:50:42.340 –> 00:50:44.119
an interesting question. What do you see is the

00:50:44.119 –> 00:50:46.940
difference in mediums between film and comic

00:50:46.940 –> 00:50:50.139
book in the sense of like, you know, they each

00:50:50.139 –> 00:50:51.940
have their kind of pros and cons, like what they’re

00:50:51.940 –> 00:50:55.300
good at and in terms of how they impact an audience.

00:50:55.699 –> 00:50:58.199
Like, can you talk about that? Maybe compare

00:50:58.199 –> 00:51:00.219
them a little bit on like what you get out of

00:51:00.219 –> 00:51:02.159
a film versus what you get out of a comic book?

00:51:02.599 –> 00:51:04.960
I think, you know, a film, it’s a basic enjoyable

00:51:04.960 –> 00:51:06.460
thing to where you can just kind of turn your

00:51:06.460 –> 00:51:08.679
mind off and just enjoy it. Where I kind of like

00:51:08.679 –> 00:51:10.400
the books to where you actually have to, you

00:51:10.400 –> 00:51:12.079
know, engage a little bit more, you know, you

00:51:12.079 –> 00:51:14.699
have to kind of read it and stuff. And I think

00:51:15.559 –> 00:51:17.800
you can do a lot more with the comics, especially

00:51:17.800 –> 00:51:19.679
if it’s like a creator -owned comic and a feature

00:51:19.679 –> 00:51:21.239
-owned thing and you don’t necessarily have to

00:51:21.239 –> 00:51:23.739
wait like, you know, a year for it. You get one

00:51:23.739 –> 00:51:26.659
every month and it’s like a continuation story.

00:51:28.699 –> 00:51:31.760
Yeah. That’s cool. Well, here’s a question. Some

00:51:31.760 –> 00:51:34.400
movies, and I don’t know if it’s just specific

00:51:34.400 –> 00:51:36.239
to horror, I’m guessing it’s not, but they do,

00:51:36.659 –> 00:51:38.340
a movie will come out and then they’ll do the

00:51:38.340 –> 00:51:40.239
novelization of the movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:51:40.280 –> 00:51:42.380
Does that happen with comic books? Like a movie

00:51:42.380 –> 00:51:44.829
comes out and then they’re… comic comes after

00:51:44.829 –> 00:51:47.690
instead of before. Yeah, yeah. I think, you know,

00:51:47.809 –> 00:51:49.849
Dune is a good one. Dune’s got a lot of novelizations

00:51:49.849 –> 00:51:51.530
of that and it has a bunch of different, like

00:51:51.530 –> 00:51:53.570
it branches off into different stories, you know,

00:51:53.590 –> 00:51:55.289
like also continuation. I think that’s usually

00:51:55.289 –> 00:51:57.070
what happens. It just becomes a continuation

00:51:57.070 –> 00:52:00.510
of whatever that story was. Like for Event Horizon,

00:52:00.710 –> 00:52:02.130
you know, to circle back around, that’s one of

00:52:02.130 –> 00:52:04.730
my favorites. But they had a comic book series

00:52:04.730 –> 00:52:07.590
that was pretty much like par for par of the

00:52:07.590 –> 00:52:09.489
movie, you know, which was really good. But now

00:52:09.489 –> 00:52:10.750
they have one that’s coming out that’s actually

00:52:10.750 –> 00:52:13.320
going to be kind of the prequel. It’s gonna talk

00:52:13.320 –> 00:52:15.739
about like, you know the event horizon like where

00:52:15.739 –> 00:52:17.340
it went to like what it did in hell and stuff

00:52:17.340 –> 00:52:19.219
like that and I think that’s interesting because

00:52:19.219 –> 00:52:22.059
You don’t have to invest all that money into

00:52:22.059 –> 00:52:23.980
a full production Like if you already have like

00:52:23.980 –> 00:52:26.659
a really popular story with the comic you can

00:52:26.659 –> 00:52:29.239
kind of go back and add more To you know the

00:52:29.239 –> 00:52:30.619
beginning of it to give people more of a taste

00:52:30.619 –> 00:52:34.139
or you could continue to go forward When is that

00:52:34.139 –> 00:52:37.219
coming out? Next month actually or in March.

00:52:37.239 –> 00:52:39.480
So in a couple weeks. Okay, I really like that

00:52:39.480 –> 00:52:43.070
about the There’s like a synergy between the

00:52:43.070 –> 00:52:44.849
comic book industry and the film industry now

00:52:44.849 –> 00:52:47.510
in a really nice way where they borrow ideas

00:52:47.510 –> 00:52:50.630
from each other. You know, a lot of times, well,

00:52:51.130 –> 00:52:53.570
you with superhero movies, obviously directly

00:52:53.570 –> 00:52:55.650
borrow story ideas and things like that. But

00:52:55.650 –> 00:52:58.730
they also borrow a lot of like a lot of the language

00:52:58.730 –> 00:53:02.369
of cinema these days, you know, looks like a

00:53:02.369 –> 00:53:05.590
comic book panel a lot of times, you know, and

00:53:05.590 –> 00:53:08.599
specifically in certain genres. And it makes

00:53:08.599 –> 00:53:10.639
them feel more cinematic. Like I almost feel

00:53:10.639 –> 00:53:13.659
like comic books drive cinematography a lot.

00:53:13.860 –> 00:53:16.019
And I, you know, I do cinematography and I know

00:53:16.019 –> 00:53:18.619
a lot of cinematographers and they all love comics

00:53:18.619 –> 00:53:20.699
and they get a lot of ideas. I mean, from lighting

00:53:20.699 –> 00:53:24.059
to, you know, camera positioning. And even, even

00:53:24.059 –> 00:53:27.820
though, you know, it’s 2D and there’s no movement

00:53:27.820 –> 00:53:31.159
in comics, you can still see how the camera would

00:53:31.159 –> 00:53:33.900
move. By the way the arrows that are drying and

00:53:33.900 –> 00:53:35.539
the way that the panels are connected and stuff

00:53:35.539 –> 00:53:37.519
so you can even get like ideas for how to move

00:53:37.519 –> 00:53:40.760
the camera and um, yeah, they look like shots

00:53:40.760 –> 00:53:44.519
from movies. Yeah, like they really It’s it’s

00:53:44.519 –> 00:53:47.159
pretty cool. It’s it’s also fascinating and I

00:53:47.159 –> 00:53:49.099
mean this is i’m sure is like 20 years old if

00:53:49.099 –> 00:53:51.599
not Older, but when they started breaking out

00:53:51.599 –> 00:53:54.219
of the the panels You know of like someone’s

00:53:54.219 –> 00:53:55.780
ripping someone’s throat out They might be in

00:53:55.780 –> 00:53:57.860
one panel ripping and reaching into the next

00:53:57.860 –> 00:53:59.739
panel and ripping someone’s right like that stuff

00:53:59.739 –> 00:54:02.110
really impressed me because it’s like You know

00:54:02.110 –> 00:54:03.789
coloring outside the lines kind of thing. No,

00:54:03.869 –> 00:54:05.650
absolutely. Yeah, there’s smartest that do that

00:54:05.650 –> 00:54:09.530
that uh, It’s pretty cool. Yeah, I think you

00:54:09.530 –> 00:54:11.269
know, I think horror’s got a good good space

00:54:11.269 –> 00:54:13.710
for it right now What is it? Um smile that movie

00:54:13.710 –> 00:54:15.590
smile like there’s a pretty cool comic for that.

00:54:15.670 –> 00:54:18.389
That’s out now so I mean, I think they’re looking

00:54:18.389 –> 00:54:21.289
to a lot of horror and indie stuff to to bring

00:54:21.289 –> 00:54:25.190
to the mainstream, but without the uh, the big

00:54:25.190 –> 00:54:29.630
name publishers That’s cool. Yeah, that’s great

00:54:30.219 –> 00:54:32.139
Do you have anything else you wanna ask? Well,

00:54:32.360 –> 00:54:36.579
yeah, I guess this is sort of a pivot, but I

00:54:36.579 –> 00:54:40.019
think you’re a gamer as well. I do, yeah, I do.

00:54:40.260 –> 00:54:42.739
I play some games. I like forced person shooters

00:54:42.739 –> 00:54:44.519
and I play a lot of random horror games, indie

00:54:44.519 –> 00:54:49.519
games. What are some, like, so I play video games,

00:54:49.559 –> 00:54:52.239
but very seldomly, and it’s like I will play

00:54:52.239 –> 00:54:53.980
the game and beat it and then not touch it for

00:54:53.980 –> 00:54:58.510
a year. But one game I’ve always been, I guess,

00:54:58.690 –> 00:55:02.010
loyal to was the Resident Evil games. And I never

00:55:02.010 –> 00:55:05.070
got into the Silent Hill games, but I know there’s

00:55:05.070 –> 00:55:07.429
a lot of horror games out there. What are some

00:55:07.429 –> 00:55:09.389
of them that people should pay attention to?

00:55:10.829 –> 00:55:12.710
I think the most recent one that I played that

00:55:12.710 –> 00:55:16.309
was a super indie one, Choo Choo Charlie. And

00:55:16.309 –> 00:55:19.250
it’s a… The guy who created it, I’m not…

00:55:19.260 –> 00:55:20.980
thinking of his name right now but he did everything

00:55:20.980 –> 00:55:22.840
like from the design from the production like

00:55:22.840 –> 00:55:24.360
it was just one person who did all of it it’s

00:55:24.360 –> 00:55:27.880
actually really well done and It’s just a train

00:55:27.880 –> 00:55:30.199
that is come to life in this like crazy, you

00:55:30.199 –> 00:55:31.780
know, small town, you know, with a little bit

00:55:31.780 –> 00:55:34.099
of lore. And it’s super fucking scary. Like that

00:55:34.099 –> 00:55:36.139
actually has given me quite a few jump scares

00:55:36.139 –> 00:55:38.639
because he’s a very violent train. And, you know,

00:55:38.639 –> 00:55:41.300
you’re on your own little like, you know, caboose.

00:55:41.360 –> 00:55:43.000
It’s just kind of going around the city and like

00:55:43.000 –> 00:55:45.599
doing its little, you know, errands, but out

00:55:45.599 –> 00:55:46.980
of nowhere, like, you know, all of a sudden you

00:55:46.980 –> 00:55:48.659
hear this whistle and you’re like, oh crap, oh

00:55:48.659 –> 00:55:50.000
crap, oh crap. And, you know, he’s just going

00:55:50.000 –> 00:55:52.460
to pop out of nowhere. And when he does. Um,

00:55:52.500 –> 00:55:54.119
you know, if you don’t have the tools, like he

00:55:54.119 –> 00:55:56.440
like picks you up and he like shakes you out

00:55:56.440 –> 00:55:58.340
of your little caboose and he eats you and he

00:55:58.340 –> 00:56:00.019
has all these like little spider legs. Like it’s

00:56:00.019 –> 00:56:02.219
a really creepy character design to Charlie.

00:56:02.920 –> 00:56:04.679
Um, and it’s actually difficult because like

00:56:04.679 –> 00:56:07.079
you have you reset. So every time like you get

00:56:07.079 –> 00:56:08.539
killed, like, you know, you don’t keep your stuff,

00:56:08.559 –> 00:56:10.000
you have to go back and get it. And so it’s one

00:56:10.000 –> 00:56:12.579
of those games where I’m terrible at it, but

00:56:12.579 –> 00:56:14.800
I fucking love it because it’s fun for streaming

00:56:14.800 –> 00:56:16.760
because like I’m a fucking wuss, you know, with

00:56:16.760 –> 00:56:18.480
these jump scares. I’m like, oh my God, you know,

00:56:18.480 –> 00:56:20.900
like I really get into that stuff. Um, I recommend

00:56:20.900 –> 00:56:25.460
that one. The dredge which is very lovecrafty

00:56:25.460 –> 00:56:27.280
and it’s also again most of my stuff I play our

00:56:27.280 –> 00:56:29.639
indie games just because I like that stuff and

00:56:29.639 –> 00:56:32.300
the dredge and it’s very lovecrafty and you’re

00:56:32.300 –> 00:56:35.920
in like this kind of like this Innsmouth, you

00:56:35.920 –> 00:56:37.980
know town to where there’s like this mystery

00:56:37.980 –> 00:56:40.579
going on and you just have like your boat and

00:56:40.579 –> 00:56:42.059
you it’s a maintenance game you keep building

00:56:42.059 –> 00:56:43.820
up your boat and you keep like fishing and stuff

00:56:43.820 –> 00:56:46.039
at the same time there’s like all this weird

00:56:46.039 –> 00:56:48.139
haunting stuff that’s happening like every night

00:56:48.139 –> 00:56:49.900
at a certain time like all these eyes come out

00:56:49.900 –> 00:56:51.400
in the middle of the ocean you’re like oh shit

00:56:51.400 –> 00:56:53.780
what’s happening and then there’s like a ghost

00:56:53.780 –> 00:56:55.519
angler fish that comes after you and you hear

00:56:55.519 –> 00:56:57.460
it whistling and if you’re not fast enough that’ll

00:56:57.460 –> 00:56:59.690
eat you And then there’s like this one part where

00:56:59.690 –> 00:57:01.829
you’re kind of like going through to get some

00:57:01.829 –> 00:57:03.449
of your treasure. There’s like this Leviathan

00:57:03.449 –> 00:57:05.150
that lives underwater and like will just take

00:57:05.150 –> 00:57:07.110
you out. And that’s kind of like the quest. Our

00:57:07.110 –> 00:57:09.269
guest story is to figure out what the fuck is

00:57:09.269 –> 00:57:10.989
going on in this town, make enough money as a

00:57:10.989 –> 00:57:12.530
fisherman and get the fuck out because you’ve

00:57:12.530 –> 00:57:13.849
crashed there and you’re like, I don’t know what’s

00:57:13.849 –> 00:57:16.809
happening. Right. That’s cool. Did you ever play

00:57:16.809 –> 00:57:19.849
Iron Lung, which is I didn’t. Yeah. Well, it’s

00:57:19.849 –> 00:57:22.929
you’re familiar with it now. Well, there it’s

00:57:22.929 –> 00:57:24.869
kind of being talked about a lot right now because

00:57:24.869 –> 00:57:27.769
it was. Adapted to a film by a youtuber who played

00:57:27.769 –> 00:57:31.210
it. Okay, cool super indie game. Nice It’s set

00:57:31.210 –> 00:57:34.269
on a distant moon where the oceans are blood

00:57:34.269 –> 00:57:38.349
and you’re a prisoner in this like Breaking down

00:57:38.349 –> 00:57:40.530
submarine trying to harvest something or other

00:57:40.530 –> 00:57:42.269
yeah And there’s these like mysterious creatures

00:57:42.269 –> 00:57:44.429
trying to kill you and it’s super the game is

00:57:44.429 –> 00:57:48.610
super lo -fi like pixel art kind of But markiplier

00:57:48.610 –> 00:57:50.489
made it into a film and it premiered and it was

00:57:50.489 –> 00:57:52.670
like top of the box office over Melania that

00:57:52.670 –> 00:57:54.769
weekend. Yeah, of course. Something like that.

00:57:55.289 –> 00:57:57.690
So so anyways, it’s I was just curious if you

00:57:57.690 –> 00:57:59.510
had a chance to play it. But I haven’t. Yeah,

00:57:59.590 –> 00:58:01.429
those are the main ones that I had been streaming

00:58:01.429 –> 00:58:03.989
lately with crews or like, you know, my community.

00:58:03.989 –> 00:58:06.489
In fact, so many of them like like what I was.

00:58:06.599 –> 00:58:08.840
playing like they went and played it and like

00:58:08.840 –> 00:58:10.539
got ahead of me, you know, because I stream,

00:58:10.539 –> 00:58:12.500
you know, just live, then I don’t do any gaming

00:58:12.500 –> 00:58:14.679
outside of that. And so people were like getting

00:58:14.679 –> 00:58:15.980
ahead of me and then coming back and telling

00:58:15.980 –> 00:58:17.980
me where to go and maneuvering me, you know,

00:58:17.980 –> 00:58:19.320
like, oh, no, you want to go here to get this

00:58:19.320 –> 00:58:21.639
particular like crazy charm so you can go give

00:58:21.639 –> 00:58:23.480
it to this mysterious man so he can give you

00:58:23.480 –> 00:58:25.460
this like harpoon to go kill this leviathan.

00:58:25.559 –> 00:58:28.579
That’s a genius cheat code. Be a streamer and

00:58:28.579 –> 00:58:29.940
be like, I’m going to play a little bit and then

00:58:29.940 –> 00:58:31.679
you guys tell me what to do. Yeah, no, I love

00:58:31.679 –> 00:58:33.219
that. I always put in their backseat gaming.

00:58:33.300 –> 00:58:37.269
Tell me what to do. So when you say indie games,

00:58:37.650 –> 00:58:40.989
what platform are they available on? Oh, for

00:58:40.989 –> 00:58:44.309
anything I play is on an Xbox. I have a Game

00:58:44.309 –> 00:58:46.769
Pass, which I think is worth it. It’s like 20

00:58:46.769 –> 00:58:51.329
bucks a month and limited games for whatever’s

00:58:51.329 –> 00:58:53.369
on their menu or whatever. And so that’s usually

00:58:53.369 –> 00:58:54.969
where I find a lot of the stuff that I play I’m

00:58:54.969 –> 00:58:57.909
just kind of curious about. The big one’s Steam,

00:58:58.130 –> 00:59:01.099
though. I mean, if you’re a PC player. I’d love

00:59:01.099 –> 00:59:03.119
to do a PC, but I’ve always just kind of just

00:59:03.119 –> 00:59:05.480
done my twitch through that. But I think my all

00:59:05.480 –> 00:59:07.760
time favorite horror game, and this may be weird

00:59:07.760 –> 00:59:10.340
for some, some people because I do play Resident

00:59:10.340 –> 00:59:14.119
Evil and I’ve done, you know, Silent Hill, but

00:59:14.119 –> 00:59:16.739
Bioshock is by far my favorite horror game ever.

00:59:17.539 –> 00:59:19.380
It’s creepy in the sense of the first one, you

00:59:19.380 –> 00:59:20.480
know, where you’re underground and you’ve got

00:59:20.480 –> 00:59:22.840
the big daddies. But I think Bioshock Infinite

00:59:22.840 –> 00:59:26.480
is my favorite horror game because not only is

00:59:26.480 –> 00:59:29.300
it above you know, in the in the clouds and it’s

00:59:29.300 –> 00:59:31.099
like the juxtaposition of it being very pretty

00:59:31.099 –> 00:59:33.840
and gorgeous. But the horror of it is just like

00:59:33.840 –> 00:59:36.320
how man has developed, you know, to where like

00:59:36.320 –> 00:59:38.880
we’re in this we’ve we’re part of like this cult

00:59:38.880 –> 00:59:40.920
that has moved and left, you know, the world

00:59:40.920 –> 00:59:45.059
because like they have these like very MAGA related

00:59:45.059 –> 00:59:47.159
views, essentially. And so you’re there to kind

00:59:47.159 –> 00:59:49.179
of like, you know, lead the revolution against

00:59:49.179 –> 00:59:52.119
them. And I think the. It tickles your liberal

00:59:52.119 –> 00:59:54.960
soul. It does. It does. It’s one of my comfort

00:59:54.960 –> 00:59:56.880
movies because I essentially get to go around

00:59:56.880 –> 01:00:00.679
like, you know, killing racists. Yeah. And it’s

01:00:00.679 –> 01:00:03.099
also Red Dead Redemption as well. It’s got those

01:00:03.099 –> 01:00:05.280
moments, you know. So like there are moments

01:00:05.280 –> 01:00:07.119
in video games that aren’t like straight horror,

01:00:07.119 –> 01:00:09.480
but they have these like moments of horror, you

01:00:09.480 –> 01:00:10.880
know, that are written into the story. And then

01:00:10.880 –> 01:00:13.099
you can kind of like, you know, be your own self

01:00:13.099 –> 01:00:14.880
like crusader to go under and like, you know,

01:00:14.960 –> 01:00:17.900
save the day, be like, fuck you, racist. When

01:00:17.900 –> 01:00:20.440
you were a kid, were you did you go to the arcade?

01:00:20.639 –> 01:00:23.900
I did. What was your go -to? Darkstalkers. Like

01:00:23.900 –> 01:00:26.139
Darkstalkers is still my favorite all -time fighting

01:00:26.139 –> 01:00:29.019
game. It’s funny because there was Six Flags

01:00:29.019 –> 01:00:31.780
out where I grew up and there was the Boomtown

01:00:31.780 –> 01:00:34.079
arcade and it was the only arcade that actually

01:00:34.079 –> 01:00:36.659
had a Darkstalkers. So I had a season pass just

01:00:36.659 –> 01:00:39.860
to go play video games all day. That’s amazing.

01:00:40.179 –> 01:00:43.900
I really miss kind of the arcade culture. Yeah.

01:00:44.079 –> 01:00:47.260
Yeah. It was so exciting. There was a game that

01:00:47.260 –> 01:00:49.199
I came across because you remember operation

01:00:49.199 –> 01:00:52.059
wolf like the shooter game Yeah, there was a

01:00:52.059 –> 01:00:54.360
game where you were doing that but it was zombies

01:00:54.360 –> 01:00:57.019
and this was like late 80s is called beast buster

01:00:57.019 –> 01:00:58.760
But I thought it was the coolest thing ever because

01:00:58.760 –> 01:01:00.940
it was like outer return of living dead Yeah,

01:01:00.980 –> 01:01:02.579
or something because you’re in an urban environment

01:01:02.579 –> 01:01:04.599
and you’re shooting these zombies and it was

01:01:04.599 –> 01:01:08.360
I love those games. Yeah arcade uh genres at

01:01:08.360 –> 01:01:11.420
the time were Yeah, definitely the yeah, the

01:01:11.420 –> 01:01:13.480
zombie games and like the alien games and stuff

01:01:13.480 –> 01:01:16.719
like that but uh Darkstalkers was my jam just

01:01:16.719 –> 01:01:19.340
because it was monsters. You know, it’s not scary,

01:01:19.360 –> 01:01:25.139
but it’s monsters. So I had a question. Go back

01:01:25.139 –> 01:01:28.480
to comic books for people who want to start collecting

01:01:28.480 –> 01:01:31.460
indie comic books. What’s your advice to getting

01:01:31.460 –> 01:01:34.780
into it, where to go to buy them, what to do

01:01:34.780 –> 01:01:36.980
first, who to talk to, anything like that might

01:01:36.980 –> 01:01:38.880
come to mind. All that can be answered at your

01:01:38.880 –> 01:01:43.239
local comic book shop where to buy them recommendations.

01:01:44.049 –> 01:01:47.070
Um, you know, uh, for me, like I said, people

01:01:47.070 –> 01:01:50.389
come in and they, uh, when they ask for recommendations,

01:01:50.530 –> 01:01:52.150
I’m like, what are you looking for? Like, you

01:01:52.150 –> 01:01:54.050
know, I literally just ask, what are your boundaries?

01:01:54.269 –> 01:01:56.469
What, what kind of horror or what kind of superhero

01:01:56.469 –> 01:01:59.250
or whatever? Like, you know, what, what, what,

01:01:59.250 –> 01:02:01.510
what you got? Because then I can pull out, you

01:02:01.510 –> 01:02:04.010
know, that way. And I think, um, yeah, just go

01:02:04.010 –> 01:02:05.809
or even to your library, your librarian probably

01:02:05.809 –> 01:02:09.230
has like a lot of good ideas to, um, library.

01:02:09.510 –> 01:02:11.050
I don’t really think of them for comics, but

01:02:11.050 –> 01:02:13.539
yeah, no, that’s a good call. Yeah, yeah, your

01:02:13.539 –> 01:02:15.500
local librarian has probably tons of graphic

01:02:15.500 –> 01:02:18.099
novels. You know, our shop and I know a lot of

01:02:18.099 –> 01:02:19.639
shops actually donate a lot of graphic novels

01:02:19.639 –> 01:02:22.019
to the local library and people come in trying

01:02:22.019 –> 01:02:23.900
to sell this stuff. I always say, you know what,

01:02:24.039 –> 01:02:25.800
your local library could probably benefit way

01:02:25.800 –> 01:02:27.260
more than us because we’re not going to do anything

01:02:27.260 –> 01:02:29.440
with it for like at least a year because we donate

01:02:29.440 –> 01:02:32.079
some stuff to the troops at Christmas. So I usually

01:02:32.079 –> 01:02:34.840
send people to their library. But if you’re looking

01:02:34.840 –> 01:02:37.639
for more. Modern stuff, um, you know go to your

01:02:37.639 –> 01:02:39.559
local comic shop and be like hey i’m curious

01:02:39.559 –> 01:02:41.619
in horror, you know What you got and I guarantee

01:02:41.619 –> 01:02:43.420
they’ll pull out at least 20 books and be like

01:02:43.420 –> 01:02:44.760
we got this That’s that’s that’s nice. Is there

01:02:44.760 –> 01:02:47.139
like a starting point in terms of like this is

01:02:47.139 –> 01:02:50.920
like The typical seminal like this is canon.

01:02:50.960 –> 01:02:52.780
This is like well, you should start with one

01:02:52.780 –> 01:02:56.900
of these or I guess yes and no like for me like

01:02:56.900 –> 01:02:59.900
I I go back I always recommend tells from the

01:02:59.900 –> 01:03:01.880
crypt or any of the ec stuff the weird science

01:03:01.880 –> 01:03:04.039
stuff because that was pre -code horror, you

01:03:04.039 –> 01:03:06.179
know Comics often in fact that was the reason

01:03:06.179 –> 01:03:09.179
we have the work or the code is because of Bill

01:03:09.179 –> 01:03:12.340
Gaines and ec comics and stuff So if people really

01:03:12.340 –> 01:03:15.000
want to get to the heart of horror comics, I

01:03:15.000 –> 01:03:17.480
suggest going back to like the 1950s Is this

01:03:17.480 –> 01:03:19.099
is the code this where you’re referring to the

01:03:19.099 –> 01:03:21.019
same one that was in place in the film industry

01:03:21.019 –> 01:03:24.119
as well Hayes code Hayes code or is it a different

01:03:24.119 –> 01:03:27.059
code for comics? I think eventually they did

01:03:27.059 –> 01:03:30.199
crossover because there was the big trials back

01:03:30.199 –> 01:03:34.050
in the day of McCarthyism. Yeah, they were suing

01:03:34.050 –> 01:03:37.409
EC Comics to put labels and warnings and for

01:03:37.409 –> 01:03:39.510
them to be censored. And they were like, no,

01:03:39.570 –> 01:03:42.090
fuck you. And then the comic code came essentially

01:03:42.090 –> 01:03:43.889
about that. Like what could be shown? What couldn’t

01:03:43.889 –> 01:03:45.989
be shown? Yeah. But that’s not still in place,

01:03:46.150 –> 01:03:47.969
presumably. There is still a comics code, because

01:03:47.969 –> 01:03:49.449
if you look at a lot of the comics, we’ll say

01:03:49.449 –> 01:03:52.530
comics code approved. But obviously, as the time

01:03:52.530 –> 01:03:55.070
has furthered, so has what the tolerance is and

01:03:55.070 –> 01:03:58.190
what the… Right the ratings are so it’s basically

01:03:58.190 –> 01:04:00.530
just a rating system now essentially. Yes Yes,

01:04:00.849 –> 01:04:02.869
funny about all that stuff is like we were all

01:04:02.869 –> 01:04:05.510
of the age to know parental advisory stickers

01:04:05.510 –> 01:04:07.250
on records It’s like oh, well, I need to hear

01:04:07.250 –> 01:04:11.690
this. Yeah This is what I should buy. Yeah, exactly

01:04:11.690 –> 01:04:14.030
That’s usually you know, add the pre -code stuff

01:04:14.030 –> 01:04:16.969
is is is what I recommend I just think that’s

01:04:16.969 –> 01:04:19.769
the the beginning and that’s the heart of horror

01:04:19.769 –> 01:04:23.969
comics is You know easy. Okay, so here’s here’s

01:04:23.969 –> 01:04:27.039
something that just dawned on me As a kid, I’ve

01:04:27.039 –> 01:04:28.699
had this experience and I feel like it’s kind

01:04:28.699 –> 01:04:31.079
of a stereotype, but like you go to a record

01:04:31.079 –> 01:04:33.679
store and they’re total snobs and dicks to you.

01:04:34.139 –> 01:04:36.340
Are comic book places, like shops like that,

01:04:36.360 –> 01:04:38.800
are they way more welcoming? Oh, no, most places

01:04:38.800 –> 01:04:41.460
are like that. That’s why I’d go above and beyond

01:04:41.460 –> 01:04:43.440
to try to welcome people. And I think that’s

01:04:43.440 –> 01:04:46.079
why the demographics of my shop that I now manage

01:04:46.079 –> 01:04:48.179
have changed a bit and continue to grow. And

01:04:48.179 –> 01:04:51.139
I get a lot more subs. I get a lot more. We love

01:04:51.139 –> 01:04:52.960
our doll community. We get a lot of, you know,

01:04:53.099 –> 01:04:56.019
LGBT trans people that come in. Um, you know

01:04:56.019 –> 01:04:59.519
all community. What is that? Uh, I don’t know

01:04:59.519 –> 01:05:01.460
anything. Yeah, that’s part of the lgbt community.

01:05:01.460 –> 01:05:03.780
Oh, it’s like when you say doll like people who

01:05:03.780 –> 01:05:07.159
the trans trans community usually is Uh referred

01:05:07.159 –> 01:05:09.719
to as dolls. Yeah, okay dolls or at least in

01:05:09.719 –> 01:05:12.800
my circle in what we say and stuff. Oh, no, that’s

01:05:12.800 –> 01:05:14.659
cool Yeah, is that is that comic specific or

01:05:14.659 –> 01:05:16.340
just i’m just I think just in general. Yeah,

01:05:16.340 –> 01:05:18.380
I think in general it’s weird. I thought I was

01:05:18.380 –> 01:05:20.800
pretty It’s something that i’ve only learned

01:05:20.800 –> 01:05:22.519
in the past couple months because the shops I

01:05:22.519 –> 01:05:26.659
work at there are a lot of lgbt BT people that

01:05:26.659 –> 01:05:28.639
run them and stuff. So, you know, I’m still learning

01:05:28.639 –> 01:05:33.380
as well too. I have the memory to try to keep

01:05:33.380 –> 01:05:38.000
up on all that stuff. But yeah, like I think…

01:05:38.000 –> 01:05:41.599
Cool. Do you have any last… One last thing,

01:05:41.659 –> 01:05:43.960
because we’re talking about comic books and we’re

01:05:43.960 –> 01:05:47.840
talking about movies. You are a, what I say,

01:05:48.000 –> 01:05:52.659
regular at Comic -Con? Yes. So… That seems

01:05:52.659 –> 01:05:55.260
like that went from comic books to just anything

01:05:55.260 –> 01:05:58.860
pop culture. Yes. Is comic books still the forefront

01:05:58.860 –> 01:06:01.179
of that or has movies taken over or is it just

01:06:01.179 –> 01:06:03.039
kind of blended together? I don’t know, movies

01:06:03.039 –> 01:06:05.840
and celebrities have definitely taken over comic

01:06:05.840 –> 01:06:08.760
cons and sometimes it’s misleading because you’re

01:06:08.760 –> 01:06:10.380
like, oh, it’s a comic con and you go there and

01:06:10.380 –> 01:06:13.380
the comic, like, alley comic book artists and

01:06:13.380 –> 01:06:15.579
writers are in the back and there may be two

01:06:15.579 –> 01:06:18.679
or three of them. Yeah, yeah. But there are some

01:06:18.679 –> 01:06:21.340
that are like heavy convicts. Comic centric that

01:06:21.340 –> 01:06:25.179
I that I’m thankful for But yeah, mainly it is

01:06:25.179 –> 01:06:28.300
just like celebrities these days, right? That

01:06:28.300 –> 01:06:31.460
checks out everything’s exploited everything

01:06:31.460 –> 01:06:34.880
cool Great. Well, is there any last thoughts

01:06:34.880 –> 01:06:38.019
you want to leave about comics to for the audience?

01:06:38.579 –> 01:06:40.380
Well, I guess yeah, just support your local comic

01:06:40.380 –> 01:06:43.360
shop And do you have anything to plug or like

01:06:43.360 –> 01:06:45.199
where can people find you and all that stuff?

01:06:45.469 –> 01:06:49.449
Yeah on Instagram as the taffeta darling on thread

01:06:49.449 –> 01:06:51.090
says the taffeta darling. Those are my two main

01:06:51.090 –> 01:06:54.550
ones and I’m active on I don’t use Twitter I

01:06:54.550 –> 01:06:57.329
have a Facebook page fangirl in Dallas that I

01:06:57.329 –> 01:06:59.309
rarely post on because Facebook is pointless

01:06:59.309 –> 01:07:01.889
So mainly if you’re looking for any sort of recommendations,

01:07:02.030 –> 01:07:05.849
you can find them on my Instagram And threads

01:07:05.849 –> 01:07:11.889
great Great. So let’s move on to a quick segment

01:07:11.889 –> 01:07:15.469
here on What’s coming out this week to be aware

01:07:15.469 –> 01:07:17.710
of? These will probably be up by the time you

01:07:17.710 –> 01:07:20.070
hear this but the bride is actually dropping

01:07:20.070 –> 01:07:22.909
this weekend Which is written and directed by

01:07:22.909 –> 01:07:25.369
Maggie Gyllenhaal stars Jessica Buckley Jake

01:07:25.369 –> 01:07:28.110
Gyllenhaal and Christian Bale and my understanding

01:07:28.110 –> 01:07:30.510
is it’s kind of like a Bonnie and Clyde take

01:07:30.510 –> 01:07:34.429
on Centering Frankenstein’s bride in her own

01:07:34.429 –> 01:07:39.030
story Then the description IMDB says in 1930

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Chicago Frankenstein asked doctor Euphronius

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to help create a companion to give life to a

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murdered woman as the bride sparking romance

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police interest and radical social change So

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it’s gonna be interesting to kind of juxtapose

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that with that. Guillermo de Otero’s Frankenstein

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from late last year. Mm -hmm. I’m curious about

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I definitely want to see it It’ll probably be

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a while before I do but I am very curious about

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it. Yeah Yeah. And then, and then heel, uh, which

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I actually don’t know anything about other than

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what I’m reading right now, which is a 19 year

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old criminal. Tommy is kidnapped and forced into

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a rehabilitation process by dysfunctional couple,

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Chris and Catherine, who try to make them a good

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boy. Tommy must find a way to escape. And this

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is like a kind of a thriller horror. I understand.

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But, um, it’s directed by John Kamasa written

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by Bartek Bartoszak and Kash Khalid, I’m sorry

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if I butchered that, starring Stephanie Graham,

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Andrea Riseborough, and Anson Boone. So keep

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your eye out for that. I had seen the, this is

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one of those movies where I saw the trailer forever

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ago and completely forgot about it until right

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now. Did it look good? No, no, I thought it looked

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interesting for sure. So I’m curious about that

01:08:49.810 –> 01:08:52.130
though. Didn’t Redux Redux come out this weekend?

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That just dropped. This is the weekend of March

01:08:56.020 –> 01:08:58.439
6th. And then it’s hard to keep up. Yeah, I know,

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I know. So you’ll probably be hearing this actually

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the weekend after that. So they’ll already be

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out. And, you know, if you want to check out

01:09:05.579 –> 01:09:07.640
the trailers for that, if you haven’t already,

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you can go to our website and we’ll put that

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in the show notes as well. So, yeah. What are

01:09:14.579 –> 01:09:17.100
you guys doing this week? Anything fun? Any thing

01:09:17.100 –> 01:09:21.659
you’re looking forward to? I’m sure there’s something.

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Yeah, you always got something going on. I’m

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going to be real, like sometimes just stuff just

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kind of pops up like I went to the closing of

01:09:28.149 –> 01:09:29.689
that David Lynch art show last night and I was

01:09:29.689 –> 01:09:32.550
like, all right, you know. That’s cool. You should

01:09:32.550 –> 01:09:36.029
have mentioned that earlier. Yeah, that was just

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something that I had planned. What is? Yeah,

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I guess I don’t have anything. It would have

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been at Big Texas Terror this weekend, actually.

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my big San Antonio convention that I work at

01:09:45.140 –> 01:09:47.340
in Texas, but that’ll be my first year I’m missing

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it, which is a convention dedicated straight

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to horror and horror movies. And I usually do

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panels out there. So what I’m not doing this

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weekend is I’m not going to my favorite horror

01:09:57.119 –> 01:09:59.500
convention. Was that because you didn’t want

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to travel or? Yeah, yeah. I just have just, you

01:10:03.199 –> 01:10:06.699
know, a lot going on, unfortunately. I have Monster

01:10:06.699 –> 01:10:10.720
Palooza. I was invited to come. I mean, it’s

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a couple of months away, but. One of the artists

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is making me a Lily Munster costume. She’s out

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there and she’s making me into a painting as

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Lily Munster. So she has invited me to come to

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Monster Palooza, dress as Lily Munster and promote

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her new painting. Sometimes I’m like Vanna White

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of the convention. That’s fun. So, I mean, it’s

01:10:33.050 –> 01:10:34.729
off, but I just thought about that. But it’s

01:10:34.729 –> 01:10:36.750
Monster Palooza and it’s a big horror convention

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I’ve never been to, so I’m excited for that.

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Right on, yeah. Peter’s been a few times. Yeah,

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there’s two. There’s Monster Palooza, which I

01:10:43.199 –> 01:10:45.239
guess is more towards the late spring or early

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summer, and then fall is Son of Monster Palooza,

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or I’m saying it backwards. I can’t remember

01:10:50.399 –> 01:10:51.600
which one. No, no, I think that’s legit, because

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I went to Sun’s Up when I first landed in LA.

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It was like that weekend. I was like, OK, I’ll

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go check it out. It was small. But I hear Monster

01:10:57.659 –> 01:11:01.520
Palooza is like huge, though. Yeah, I think it

01:11:01.520 –> 01:11:03.720
also depends the year and the day and all that,

01:11:03.739 –> 01:11:05.699
you know, who the guests are. The one they had

01:11:05.699 –> 01:11:08.760
in Pasadena a couple of years ago was… crazy

01:11:08.760 –> 01:11:12.220
big Well in San Diego Comic -Con’s not too far

01:11:12.220 –> 01:11:14.460
off. Do you usually go to that? Oh, yeah for

01:11:14.460 –> 01:11:16.939
sure I’ve only been twice, but I’ve you know,

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I’m excited to go now That was a huge part in

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moving out here to two hours away from being

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in the in the comic scene in the community Like

01:11:24.579 –> 01:11:26.399
we call that summer camp because it’s four days

01:11:26.399 –> 01:11:29.300
of just non -stop comics and I can eat that up

01:11:29.300 –> 01:11:33.350
all day Nice, nice. I don’t have anything going

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on this weekend, but in the future, that’s what

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I got. Cool. Cool. And Peter, what about you

01:11:36.810 –> 01:11:39.590
going to see anything, do anything? We have a

01:11:39.590 –> 01:11:42.130
meeting with our friend, Nikhil. Oh, yeah. Right

01:11:42.130 –> 01:11:46.409
now with Nikhil. Nikhil is going to help us potentially

01:11:46.409 –> 01:11:51.489
get some projects in front of, you know, potential

01:11:51.489 –> 01:11:56.189
collaborators to do our next feature. So, yeah,

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fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. Alright, that’s

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going to bring us to the end of today’s episode.

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We had so much fun this week with Taffeta that

01:12:12.130 –> 01:12:14.069
we invited her back next week, where we’re going

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to talk about some outstanding horror music videos.

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And if you want to check out today’s show notes,

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go to NightmareLogic .net. Follow us on Instagram

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next time.